[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Hey, firemen.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/12/2013 4:57:04 PM EDT
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them.
I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me...  You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... 
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. Click on their home page: http://www.slcfire.com/go/doc/3687/1251659 'how are we doing?' survey is #4 in the picture slideshow Not that it will make any difference: "Look for the Union label" |
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I don't know if the employee will have to pay for it. That usually depends on the department he works for and their policy on missing and damaged equipment. The jackets are made of Nomex, Kevlar, Aramid or other proprietary fabrics. The more often they get washed the softer they get. New they can run up to $600 for the coat alone. You can probably get one much cheaper on ebay for cookouts.
PS the guy you gave the coat to is a fuxstick. PTB FTM EBGH |
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Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. Quoted:
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. |
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Thanks, probly a few thousand with the PASS or CO meter...all firefighting electronics are expensive. ETA: especially when it's hot out the gear gets hung on the truck at the scene or stored in the hose bed to dry if wet, sometimes it falls off. That and the hose (and in the old days, people) is why it says, "Keep Back 200 Feet." |
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I don't know if the employee will have to pay for it. That usually depends on the department he works for and their policy on missing and damaged equipment. The jackets are made of Nomex, Kevlar, Aramid or other proprietary fabrics. The more often they get washed the softer they get. New they can run up to $600 for the coat alone. You can probably get one much cheaper on ebay for cookouts. PS the guy you gave the coat to is a fuxstick. PTB FTM EBGH A good Morning Pride coat will run you a grand easy. |
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Quoted: I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...Gratitude, that man has none 
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I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. Quoted:
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. Not really. In my area of Florida, starting pay for FF/EMT is right around $32k. Edit: yes more than $14 but not much more. |
| Most of us make low dollars per hour but the way the shifts are set up (24/48, 24/72, or some other variations) we end up working alot of overtime so it balances out. I work 24 hours on and have 48 hours off so I only work average of 10 days a month, but during that time I will either 96 or 120 (at my full time job) hours depending on which pay period, so it all balances out in the end. |
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I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. Quoted:
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. I would be careful making sweeping generalizations. I can introduce you to at least twenty five full timers who dont. |
| Yeah the whole national pay scale is crap. I live in south Alabama and $14-$20 would be nice. If you have 15-20 years you are probably making that but just starting isn't much more than minimum wage. But like was already said we get overtime plus have time to work other jobs. If it wasn't for my second job I couldn't swing it on one job. Anyways the guy you have the jacket to sounds like a douche. If that had been our dept somebody would probably have bought your lunch or supper. |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Turnout gear is usually provided by the employer. The coat replacement cost is between $600-$1200, depending on the options and manufacturer. The gloves could be another $100 and the electronic device is hard to estimate as it could range from a PASS alarm (the alarms that activate when a firefighter goes down, about $150, but unlikely because stand-alone units have been non-compliant with NFPA for a few years) to a personal carbon monoxide monitor or radiation dosimeter ($350-$800) The coats are made with a kevlar-blend (with nomex nylon or poly-benzimitazol polyester) and have a liner made with a waterproof material (usually goretex) and layers of insulating batting. They may seem comfortable but retain body heat in hot weather...they are almost never comfortable to wear for long periods if you are working hard or in warmer weather. They do make great coats in winter weather, though. Modern firehouses are now staffed with other employees than firefighters. You may have encountered a EMT/Paramedic or administrative staff. I once thought I would do a noble thing and turn in a hypo needle found while on a walk to a nearby fire station (with medic unit) . Guys peppered me with a few questions and I revealed to them I was also a firefighter/ EMT, active duty .mil, with one of our gates to the base 500 yds up the road (this crew was 1st due to our base mutual aid). After talking for a few minutes, a police car pulled up and I was detained / questioned over the needle...turned out one of the medics called the police when he overheard that I was turning in the needle and reported "a guy at the fire station with drug paraphernalia". It took about 10 minutes to resolve the situation and only because two of the firefighters went to bat for me and said I had prevented a child from becoming stuck. Reported the incident to my fire chief the next day, as we were required to report all contact with LE. Long story short, there was a lot of BS back and forth between the base and city over some douche who was ticked off he had to work on the ambulance instead of the fire engine. |
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This. Thank you. It was a stand up thing to do. Quoted:
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On behalf of firefighjters and fire dept. officers across the U.S.A., thank you for returning it. I'm sorry you got a cold shoulder when you cared enough to bring it back. This. Thank you. It was a stand up thing to do. I knew if I did not it likely would not get back to the station on that area. 
There was no other choice. I was glad to do it. |
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Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. Quoted:
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? If I found and returned a valuable piece of equipment to a public servant; and they return the favor by shutting a door in my face without so much as a thank you, the station will get a complaint from me. Thats not even to mention the numbskull who is incapable of either keeping tabs on or securing his own personal protective gear to a moving vehicle. It was just a coat this time, it will just be a 200lb section of pipe or a ladder next time. His brothers are relying on him in emergency situations and this guy can't even keep track of his coat. That being the only two things Ive heard about the station, Id be led to believe the place is a crapshoot. Very professional sounding station, could probably use some attention. 
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My department supplies all of my bunker gear. We are issued a set of Globe pants, coat, boots, gloves, hood, and helmet. Compete set is around $1,300 I believe. We are issued Bullard brand helmets, I use my own personal helmet, a Cairns brand I've had for years. It's more comfortable than the dept. issue.
We are also given a back up set of pants, coat and boots. It's usually our old gear that we wore prior to getting the current gear. I put all my own stuff in the pockets. Work gloves, flashlights, webbing, caribieners, safety glasses, ear plugs. I also made a pouch for a tool kit: 4 way screwdriver, vise grips, needle nose pliers, zip ties, and electrical tape, that I keep in my pant pocket. All the gear gets heavy, and hot here in Florida. As far as pay, my hourly is $12.32/hr. I'm a Lt./paramedic with almost 6 years at my current dept. Annual salary is about $35,000. 5% of my wages go into a retirement plan. The dept. does pay all my health insurance though. I work a 24/48 schedule. We are paid bi-weekly on a 14 day pay cycle. I work part-time teaching EMT's and paramedics at a local college. |
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Quoted: On behalf of firefighjters and fire dept. officers across the U.S.A., thank you for returning it. I'm sorry you got a cold shoulder when you cared enough to bring it back. Someone probably left it on a bumper or hanging on a handle and drove off without noticing it there. It happens here fairly often with helmets. God forbid its got one of our helmet-mounted thermal imagers on it. For this reason I always make sure my guys have all their gear before leaving a scene. |
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Quoted: You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? Yeah, this. I wasn't expecting a steak dinner or a free patch, but did expect a warmer thanks. Oh well. The deed is done. |
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My department supplies all of my bunker gear. We are issued a set of Globe pants, coat, boots, gloves, hood, and helmet. Compete set is around $1,300 I believe. We are issued Bullard brand helmets, I use my own personal helmet, a Cairns brand I've had for years. It's more comfortable than the dept. issue. We are also given a back up set of pants, coat and boots. It's usually our old gear that we wore prior to getting the current gear. I put all my own stuff in the pockets. Work gloves, flashlights, webbing, caribieners, safety glasses, ear plugs. I also made a pouch for a tool kit: 4 way screwdriver, vise grips, needle nose pliers, zip ties, and electrical tape, that I keep in my pant pocket. All the gear gets heavy, and hot here in Florida. As far as pay, my hourly is $12.32/hr. I'm a Lt./paramedic with almost 6 years at my current dept. Annual salary is about $35,000. 5% of my wages go into a retirement plan. The dept. does pay all my health insurance though. I work a 24/48 schedule. We are paid bi-weekly on a 14 day pay cycle. I work part-time teaching EMT's and paramedics at a local college. First OP, good on you and sorry you met and had to put up with an asshole .
Now for this post, unless they are buying the bare bones cheapest set of Globe bunkers, I think a set is going for about $1,300 pants and coat. My bunker boots are $300, and station boots are $250, |
| we just replaced 25 sets of gear (helmet, boots, bunker pants and coat, gloves and a nomex hood) for 2,500 a set. Add in a pager and you're looking at almost 3,500 dollars to outfit a new recruit. so THANKS for returning it. Shit is expensive - thanks to NFPA regulations the gear is supposed to be replaced after just a couple of years of use. |
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Around here, the department supplies the gear in both paid and volunteer departments. However, the volunteer departments I've been a part of expect you to provide some stuff - flashlights (if you don't want a massive box light), hand tools (knife, multi tool, etc), wedges, webbing - stupid little things that depend on personal preference. I sure don't find the gear comfortable - it's slightly cumbersome, gets heavy when wet (water or sweat) - but it beats the alternative of no protective gear. a couple minutes of training in a burn session is more than enough for me to have a totally soaked shirt and jeans that cling to my legs/thighs. Even standing around in winter time, I'll often end up seating.
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Made of a blend of Nomex and Kevlar. Jacket is most likely provided by the department and probably runs about $400-$800 new. Gloves were probably fire gloves and extrication gloves, also dept provided. The rest of the shit may be issued or individually purchased per users preference. Electronic box was either a PASS or gas sniffer. Probably a PASS alert device though.
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I would be careful making sweeping generalizations. I can introduce you to at least twenty five full timers who dont. Quoted:
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. I would be careful making sweeping generalizations. I can introduce you to at least twenty five full timers who dont. I can introduce you to several who were not even making minimum wage if you divided their salary by the hours worked. Not until their last contract and now they make just a little over $9 per hour. They all work second jobs in their off days. |
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? I'm a Fireman in a major metro area in NC and I make 10.96 an hour and I have received one pay raise in 6 years because I was promoted. It really gets on my nerves to hear from the media and others about how public servants(firemen/cops) make all this money and benefits. Only in places with unions is that even remotely true. |
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We are union and we start out at $13. One dept I almost left for starts at $9.
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Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. Click on their home page: http://www.slcfire.com/go/doc/3687/1251659 'how are we doing?' survey is #4 in the picture slideshow Not that it will make any difference: "Look for the Union label" Quoted:
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Union hacks make more. Volunteers, well, figure it out. Sounds like the SLC FD has at least one class 1 A-hole working in their department (dude in the suit) I would guess there is a FD message board that this might get a little attention on. At the least, a big THANK YOU was in order. Click on their home page: http://www.slcfire.com/go/doc/3687/1251659 'how are we doing?' survey is #4 in the picture slideshow Not that it will make any difference: "Look for the Union label" |
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Good set of bunker gear is in the thousands. Since when do hosedraggers only make 14-16hr? Firefighter Paramedic and l make $14.79/hr But to answer the OP, the coat is a blend of fibers and consists of 3-layers, unless it was a brush coat which is just a homes outer layer. The outermost is a blend of tough fibers homes and kevlar are common options with several others as well (PBI is another common one). The other layers are a moisture barrier and a thermal barrier to protect from radiant heat. Cost ranges fro $600- $1,200 or more depending on options and is typically provided by the department. The gloves are usually issued but lots of guys, myself included buy spares or better ones. Stuff in the pockets are usually small tools, flashlights, and rope. The coat must be well broken in if it felt soft, new they are very stiff. None of them breathe well and it gets quite warm wearing it, especially in FL. Beats the alternative though. Even though you were not thanked by the dept for returning it, I'd like to thank you. I had my best stolen out of my truck toolbox one night, got my best back but they stole my face piece. |
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The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets firefighters apart from the rest of regular working Joes and denies firefighters overtime (1 1/2x) pay until their time card reaches 53 hours per week (instead of 40). Some will tell you that it is still a win for firefighters because they sleep on duty at the fire station. I'll tell you that I typically run 3 calls a night between 9PM and 7AM. I need the next day off after my shift to "catch up" on my sleep. 24 hours on duty and 48 hours off is not always as glamorous as it sounds. |
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Quoted: Looks like $20-ish is the current average: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Industry=Fire_Department/Salary Quoted: Quoted: I was a volly for 10 years. Full time FF make more than $14 hr- union or not. Looks like $20-ish is the current average: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Industry=Fire_Department/Salary |
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This. Thank you. It was a stand up thing to do. Quoted:
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On behalf of firefighjters and fire dept. officers across the U.S.A., thank you for returning it. I'm sorry you got a cold shoulder when you cared enough to bring it back. This. Thank you. It was a stand up thing to do. Indeed. Good for you OP, and thanks on behalf of an anonymous brother. And I'd bet that the guy in the suit was either admin (Chief level or higher). He should lead by example, not be pissy that one of the guys dumped his gear in the street. I'd drop 'em a note. |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. Oing I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? Maybe the firemen are going to throw him a surprise party, and the guy in the suit didn't want to ruin it. |
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So today I was driving along, minding my own business, and saw a fireman's jacket (Salt Lake City FD) in the middle of the road. I stopped and picked it up. It was really heavy but I was surprised by how soft it was. It had 2 sets of gloves, an electronic devise, and the pockets were filled with something but I did not look in them. I drove it about 15 blocks to the nearest station, dude in corporate attire is on the phone and answers the door. I tell him where I found it and he says yeah, its here, thanks....and closes the door on me... You're welcome...
So, did the fireman who lost that jacket have to buy that jacket on his $14-16/hr wage or was it provided? Cost? What about the gloves and the rest of his equipment? What is that jacket made of? It seems it would be super comfortable to work in for long periods of time. Oing I was thinking how cool of a BBQ setup that would make, gloves and jacket.... Guy was a dick, Id call it in. Same Id call in and compliment if I saw an FM/LEO etc do a good job. My brother is a fireman, his gear bag is a heavy sonofabitch. You would call what in? Some man in a suit was mean to you? Maybe the firemen are going to throw him a surprise party, and the guy in the suit didn't want to ruin it. They did no such thing.
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we just replaced 25 sets of gear (helmet, boots, bunker pants and coat, gloves and a nomex hood) for 2,500 a set. Add in a pager and you're looking at almost 3,500 dollars to outfit a new recruit. so THANKS for returning it. Shit is expensive - thanks to NFPA regulations the gear is supposed to be replaced after just a couple of years of use. NFPA 1851 suggests the entire ensemble should be replaced every 10 years, and the outer shell every 5 years, but it acknowledges that storage and use conditions can shorten or prolong the lifespan of the garment. Replacement of the gear should be based more on inspection and repair costs, as opposed to time. It's largely up to the department. Chapter 10.1.2 and Annex A 10.1.1 - 10.1.5 if you're just dying to read it. |
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NFPA 1851 suggests the entire ensemble should be replaced every 10 years, and the outer shell every 5 years, but it acknowledges that storage and use conditions can shorten or prolong the lifespan of the garment. Replacement of the gear should be based more on inspection and repair costs, as opposed to time. It's largely up to the department. Chapter 10.1.2 and Annex A 10.1.1 - 10.1.5 if you're just dying to read it. Quoted:
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we just replaced 25 sets of gear (helmet, boots, bunker pants and coat, gloves and a nomex hood) for 2,500 a set. Add in a pager and you're looking at almost 3,500 dollars to outfit a new recruit. so THANKS for returning it. Shit is expensive - thanks to NFPA regulations the gear is supposed to be replaced after just a couple of years of use. NFPA 1851 suggests the entire ensemble should be replaced every 10 years, and the outer shell every 5 years, but it acknowledges that storage and use conditions can shorten or prolong the lifespan of the garment. Replacement of the gear should be based more on inspection and repair costs, as opposed to time. It's largely up to the department. Chapter 10.1.2 and Annex A 10.1.1 - 10.1.5 if you're just dying to read it. Ours rarely last that long.
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