Posted: 11/29/2008 4:06:56 PM EDT
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Went out on a rainy day with some friends and shot random shit. Had a good time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQB67-eCPAM Here's a guy shooting the same load: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTBA0DAhJNM&feature=related |
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i guess i missed it? did it have obama signs all over? cuz that wouldn't surprise me any. I'll play too - IBTL. I pulled them off your lawn to use as targets and BUCC_Guy didn't approve... I've taken many people ages 18-24 to the range and none of us acted like you and your friends. Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG |
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Quoted: If that was the original vid.Quoted: Quoted: i guess i missed it? did it have obama signs all over? cuz that wouldn't surprise me any. I'll play too - IBTL. I pulled them off your lawn to use as targets and BUCC_Guy didn't approve... I've taken many people ages 18-24 to the range and none of us acted like you and your friends. Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG It wasnt too bad. I have definitely seen worse. You seem to be bitching the guy for little reason. |
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Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG About switching positions quickly? Guilty - we move and shoot. Manipulating weapons? Hahahah I posted a blooper of me loading a shotgun shell backwards and my friend having trouble loading my M1. I edited the verbal signals out of the video. I thought no one wanted to see that but I was wrong. I could have included the drive there so people didn't assume that we teleported. I'll repost the video on youtube when no one cares about this thread. If you'd like to see it, subscribe on Youtube under the link above and you'll see it soon. |
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If that was the original vid.
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i guess i missed it? did it have obama signs all over? cuz that wouldn't surprise me any. I'll play too - IBTL. I pulled them off your lawn to use as targets and BUCC_Guy didn't approve... I've taken many people ages 18-24 to the range and none of us acted like you and your friends. Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG It wasnt too bad. I have definitely seen worse. You seem to be bitching the guy for little reason. I fully admit that I would partake in the little cackle-fest and shoot some shotties mindlessly if I was on my own property. That looked like a range (judging by the 5-plate setup). I would not want to be in the vicinity of the folks in that video at a range. - BG |
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If that was the original vid. It wasnt too bad. I have definitely seen worse. If you saw it, it was. Thanks for the positive comments! It wasn't like anyone got muzzle swept. 
You seem to be bitching the guy for little reason. Someone always does. I'll rehost the video, I thought the backlash would be worse. My Youtube profile name is DyNo541 |
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Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG About switching positions quickly? Guilty - we move and shoot. Manipulating weapons? Hahahah I posted a blooper of me loading a shotgun shell backwards and my friend having trouble loading my M1. I edited the verbal signals out of the video. I thought no one wanted to see that but I was wrong. I could have included the drive there so people didn't assume that we teleported. I'll repost the video on youtube when no one cares about this thread. If you'd like to see it, subscribe on Youtube under the link above and you'll see it soon. Gee, and I thought the only folks who posted their reload practice were airsofters. You guys were not "moving and shooting." You were handing the shotgun(s) back and forth in what I consider and unsafe manner while one of your genius friends actually pranced onto the firing line with a different shotgun at some point. Poor communication, poor definition of shooting line, and poor manipulation of the shotgun. That's three strikes for a public range. - BG |
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If that was the original vid.
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i guess i missed it? did it have obama signs all over? cuz that wouldn't surprise me any. I'll play too - IBTL. I pulled them off your lawn to use as targets and BUCC_Guy didn't approve... I've taken many people ages 18-24 to the range and none of us acted like you and your friends. Shooters switching positions quickly, trouble manipulating the basic mechanisms of the guns, and no verbal signals for what is going on (shoot, clear, cease fire, etc.). - BG It wasnt too bad. I have definitely seen worse. You seem to be bitching the guy for little reason. I've seen a lot worse than that. That didn't seem like anything too bad. |
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Why is that? You see something unsafe? I knew someone would complain... Nope. Muzzle was downrange the whole time. ETA: As far as not being 'familiar with a firearm comment', where exactly are you supposed to familiarize yourself with a firearm: an apartment or a gun range? (This is not a trick question.) |
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Why is that? You see something unsafe? I knew someone would complain... Nope. Muzzle was downrange the whole time. ETA: As far as not being 'familiar with a firearm comment', where exactly are you supposed to familiarize yourself with a firearm: an apartment or a gun range? (This is not a trick question.) Ok, I'll bite. (Though I was already defending HK Shooter) Both. Dry fire and live fire are both important aspects of firearms shooting. |
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Why is that? You see something unsafe? I knew someone would complain... Nope. Muzzle was downrange the whole time. ETA: As far as not being 'familiar with a firearm comment', where exactly are you supposed to familiarize yourself with a firearm: an apartment or a gun range? (This is not a trick question.) Ok, I'll bite. (Though I was already defending HK Shooter) Both. Dry fire and live fire are both important aspects of firearms shooting. I agree, but when you're learning the action with live ammo you must do it at a range or in some area with a safe backstop. 
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Why is that? You see something unsafe? I knew someone would complain... Nope. Muzzle was downrange the whole time. ETA: As far as not being 'familiar with a firearm comment', where exactly are you supposed to familiarize yourself with a firearm: an apartment or a gun range? (This is not a trick question.) Ok, I'll bite. (Though I was already defending HK Shooter) Both. Dry fire and live fire are both important aspects of firearms shooting. I agree, but when you're learning the action with live ammo you must do it at a range or in some area with a safe backstop. Correct. An apartment is not the place to be cycling a gun with real ammo. (As opposed to dummy rounds, etc) Just watched the vid, LOLtastic! I laughed, I cried, I hit myself in the genitals with rebar! 
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| hk_shooter_03 I have seen your other videos on youtube and know of you from arfcom. anyone else that does knows that you own a bunch of sweet guns and know how to use them. as a couple people have mentioned nothing unsafe happened in that video none of the four safety rules were violated. also "handing a gun over too fast" is akin to a "the water is too wet" kind of statement. |
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You may well be right about the transfers being unsafe. Could you give us a specific timestamp to look at? Because I didn't see anything of the sort. They were very safe, from what I saw.
Gee, and I thought the only folks who posted their reload practice were airsofters. You guys were not "moving and shooting." You were handing the shotgun(s) back and forth in what I consider and unsafe manner while one of your genius friends actually pranced onto the firing line with a different shotgun at some point. Poor communication, poor definition of shooting line, and poor manipulation of the shotgun. That's three strikes for a public range. |
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HK Shooter pointed his muzzle down range the whole time. Exercised good familiarity dispite having misfeeds and misfires. He pretty much keeps his right hand on the grip the whole time except when managing the misfeeds and keeps his finger off the trigger unless he is shooting. Besides a couple "off the hip" shots he shows good form and is leaning into the shots and shows that he is confident in using the M1. I would say that even though he is the focus of most of the har-haring he seems to be the most aware and responsible of the group.
I figure most of the guys on the board would be mostly critical of his actions, but I found him to be probably the most responsible and most familar with weapons out of the group. Some of the other dudes were too boisterous in the background which gives off the impression of immaturity especially around weapons. I think that's what makes most people uncomfortable. Also that handing off of guns forward of the overhang is not really good range etiquotte but, if you are on a range that doesn't have that rule you are fine. Auto shotguns like the Benelli and SPAS usually have a seperate button that you have to manipulate to release the feed tray to load it. If the shell is not fully grasped and happens to eject back after the feed tray drops you have a shell that is below the bolt and it will double feed or jam when you cycle the action. HK shooter seemed to being having a lot feeding issues with an auto. My SPAS was notorious for this, and that is why I got rid of it. Makes me have second thoughts on buying an M1, but I will have to think long and hard about it. All weapon muzzles were down range and fingers off the triggers until rounds were fired. I'm not big on range Nazi's and that why I prefer to shoot on my ranch at home or somewhere where I don't have to listen to someone yelling, "range is hot" "cease fire" "clear" blah, blah, blah... I'm not unsafe but I don't like people yelling shit out, because they feel the need to be in control. |
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Why is that? You see something unsafe? I knew someone would complain... Nope. Muzzle was downrange the whole time. ETA: As far as not being 'familiar with a firearm comment', where exactly are you supposed to familiarize yourself with a firearm: an apartment or a gun range? (This is not a trick question.) +1 Yes they were giggling a bit much, but nobody was waving guns around. Nobody was getting swept, nobody going downrange or moving in front of shooters. Good clean, if not silly fun. Some folks need to take the big stick out of their @$$. I have no idea what "Going full retard" means, but it did make me snicker. Quoted:
-snip- "handing a gun over too fast" is akin to a "the water is too wet" kind of statement. *applause* |
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I didn't intend for my comments to turn into any kind of mudslinging festival, but here we are.
My initial reaction to the video was based on two things and two things alone: 1) The shooters did not exhibit the kind of maturity I would want in shooters shooting near me. 2) The shooters did not represent the shooting sports well. I wouldn't want the average person to find this Youtube video and thing that this was the average shooting experience. I will certainly concede that the comments and giggling added a big part to the above statements. Had the video had no sound at all, it would not have bothered me as much. I did not intend to insult HK personally, and I most certainly agree that the other gentlemen in the video seemed much more inexperienced than him. I stand by the statement that I would not want to be shooting nearby such shenanigans at the range, but I do not want such sentiment to be received as a personal attack on HK. Like I said earlier, I am quite open to such casual and lighthearted fun on private property, but I hesitate to welcome such behavior at a range. - BG |
| Some people stopped enjoying shooting a long time ago and just shoot now because it's what they know, others can still laugh and have fun. I see nothing wrong with having fun while shooting, as long as you're safe. I saw no one being swept nor anything that would truly cause a hazard. It's not my style, but as long as no one is in danger, what's the problem? |
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I didn't intend for my comments to turn into any kind of mudslinging festival, but here we are. My initial reaction to the video was based on two things and two things alone: 1) The shooters did not exhibit the kind of maturity I would want in shooters shooting near me. 2) The shooters did not represent the shooting sports well. I wouldn't want the average person to find this Youtube video and thing that this was the average shooting experience. I will certainly concede that the comments and giggling added a big part to the above statements. Had the video had no sound at all, it would not have bothered me as much. I did not intend to insult HK personally, and I most certainly agree that the other gentlemen in the video seemed much more inexperienced than him. I stand by the statement that I would not want to be shooting nearby such shenanigans at the range, but I do not want such sentiment to be received as a personal attack on HK. Like I said earlier, I am quite open to such casual and lighthearted fun on private property, but I hesitate to welcome such behavior at a range. - BG 1 - Go shoot somewhere else. 2 - I suppose using that logic I should give up my ARs since they scare some people. I think you should stop worrying about what others think, and worry about what is right. |
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Million dollars says you shoot at a range that has a 1 round per second and/or 5 round magazine rule.......
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I didn't intend for my comments to turn into any kind of mudslinging festival, but here we are. My initial reaction to the video was based on two things and two things alone: 1) The shooters did not exhibit the kind of maturity I would want in shooters shooting near me. 2) The shooters did not represent the shooting sports well. I wouldn't want the average person to find this Youtube video and thing that this was the average shooting experience. I will certainly concede that the comments and giggling added a big part to the above statements. Had the video had no sound at all, it would not have bothered me as much. I did not intend to insult HK personally, and I most certainly agree that the other gentlemen in the video seemed much more inexperienced than him. I stand by the statement that I would not want to be shooting nearby such shenanigans at the range, but I do not want such sentiment to be received as a personal attack on HK. Like I said earlier, I am quite open to such casual and lighthearted fun on private property, but I hesitate to welcome such behavior at a range. - BG |
| Looks like great fun! Nothing serious, just funny "Going full retard" stuff. Great control on the muzzle and you have the speed thats for sure. My rookie vids are on YouTube too and I'm sure you could find way more wrong with those. (Check under- Icedragonmx) I would shoot with you, looks like painfull fun! Glad I only have the 2 3/4 slugs in mine. Lol |
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I think the video represents shooting well. Skill, safety, and, hopefully, fun.
2) The shooters did not represent the shooting sports well. I wouldn't want the average person to find this Youtube video and thing that this was the average shooting experience.  to the rest of your post.
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Timestamp 2:15 struck me as an unsafe moment, but what really concerned me was timestamp 2:26. I get nervous when I see barrels going over the head. Thats not the safest way to hand off.
Though by and large its just kids having fun which i don't have a problem with. I just point those two spots out as things I wouldn't do again. |