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6/2/2005 7:07:44 PM EDT
Was watching the news....in Baltimore theyve given out $45,900 to take 544 evil guns off the streets...nothing like takin them ravens and bryco's off the streets. That money  could have been spent in so many better ways.
6/2/2005 7:13:24 PM EDT
[#1]
I have a couple busted revolvers I would sell them, or better yet buying some WWI 1911 from a widow before they get to the buy back table.
6/2/2005 7:14:52 PM EDT
[#2]
"Buyback" is an inane title.  They never had them in the first place.  
6/2/2005 7:17:07 PM EDT
[#3]
I traded all my guns in for new Nike Tennis shoes.

(all those that didn't fall out of my boat, that is.)
6/2/2005 7:19:47 PM EDT
[#4]

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..., or better yet buying some WWI 1911 from a widow before they get to the buy back table.



We can only wonder how many have made it to the table, but not on to the melting pot with the ravens and bryco's.    
6/2/2005 7:27:11 PM EDT
[#5]

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"Buyback" is an inane title.  They never had them in the first place.  


Everything we have is a gift from our benevelent government.
6/2/2005 11:18:07 PM EDT
[#6]
I have taken at least a dozen calls at 9-1-1 from Thrift store's that have found old firearms in the donation box, or from little old gals turning in their dead husbands stuff....


they all just goto the rebar factory around here.
6/2/2005 11:25:07 PM EDT
[#7]
If private party sales were allowed in this state, I'd set up a booth about 20 feet in front of the buyback table and snatch up some nice antiques.

"WWII Garand? Eh.. I'll give you $25 more than they will. Oh, $125? Sold."

ETA: spelling because I'm sleepy.
6/2/2005 11:27:53 PM EDT
[#8]

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If private parts sales were allowed



lordy knows you could find a nice set of titties that way too!
6/2/2005 11:38:26 PM EDT
[#9]

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..., or better yet buying some WWI 1911 from a widow before they get to the buy back table.



We can only wonder how many have made it to the table, but not on to the melting pot with the ravens and bryco's.    



We can only hope such happens frequently.  I would prefer that some gun loving officer/official hang onto it than it be melted down.  I really don't take issue for people turning in Lorcins and the like, they're really getting their monies worth on the trade.

People have toyed with the idea of hanging out outside the buyback and offering 5$ in excess of the PDs amount to everybody who comes by.  Wouldn't fly in CA as all transfers need to be through an FFL now.
6/2/2005 11:44:58 PM EDT
[#10]

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If private parts sales were allowed in this state, I'd set up a booth about 20 feet in front of the buyback table and snatch up some nice antiques.

"WWII Garand? Eh.. I'll give you $25 more than they will. Oh, $125? Sold."









I dont think those are allowed anywhere in the US!


antique private parts!
6/2/2005 11:53:28 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

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If private parts sales were allowed in this state, I'd set up a booth about 20 feet in front of the buyback table and snatch up some nice antiques.

"WWII Garand? Eh.. I'll give you $25 more than they will. Oh, $125? Sold."









I dont think those are allowed anywhere in the US!


antique private parts!



I meant party! whooooops.
6/3/2005 12:35:07 AM EDT
[#12]
what SHOULD be upsetting the people in those states that do gun buybacks is the absolute unmmitigated WASTE of their tax dollars.  Its absolutely pointless!

The only people who would particiapte are (A)  People who don't use guns (yeah that really cuts down on crime all right) :rolleyes:. or (B) Criminals looking to get rid of stolen guns or guns used in the commission of crime.
6/3/2005 1:38:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Anyone who knows of any gun "Buy Back" anyplace...e-mail me...I'll bankrupt it... I can push out 1500 CAV-15’s a day...

I am totally serious about this…

Shawn Nealon
CEO Cavalry Arms Corp
[email protected]
480-833-9685


6/3/2005 1:47:34 AM EDT
[#14]

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Anyone who knows of any gun "Buy Back" anyplace...e-mail me...I'll bankrupt it... I can push out 1500 CAV-15’s a day...

I am totally serious about this…

Shawn Nealon
CEO Cavalry Arms Corp
[email protected]
480-833-9685





Including an upper receiver? For less than or equal to what most buybakcs offer?
6/3/2005 1:52:37 AM EDT
[#15]
I can make a plastic upper that will be good enough for a buy back... never said I would sell them "working" guns... the thing that makes it a gun with BATF is the S/N on the lower... I also have access to pallets of shitty police evidence guns I can buy by the pound.
6/3/2005 1:59:55 AM EDT
[#16]
why?
6/3/2005 2:08:03 AM EDT
[#17]
I've been waiting for one, I hear they have them in DC.  I'd buy up ever Mosin Nagant I coudl find and make a BUNDLE!!!!  WIth all do respect to CavArms (who I love!!!) the mosins are like 30 bucks!
6/3/2005 3:00:12 AM EDT
[#18]
There are a lot of police organizations that will give $50 for each handgun and $100 for each assault style rifle. They just give you the cash to melt them down to try and make the streets safer.
6/3/2005 3:53:11 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I can make a plastic upper that will be good enough for a buy back... never said I would sell them "working" guns... the thing that makes it a gun with BATF is the S/N on the lower... I also have access to pallets of shitty police evidence guns I can buy by the pound.



I was working P/T in the local gunshop that's been around since the '50s.  Over the years they had accumulated thier fare share of junkers.  We loaded them up and got in line, we were third IIRC.  No one else got to trade in a gun that day  The county was pretty pissed off about it, it was just so damn funny.
6/3/2005 5:50:29 AM EDT
[#20]
Tag. There will be another buyback around here soon enough.
6/3/2005 10:03:38 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

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I can make a plastic upper that will be good enough for a buy back... never said I would sell them "working" guns... the thing that makes it a gun with BATF is the S/N on the lower... I also have access to pallets of shitty police evidence guns I can buy by the pound.



I was working P/T in the local gunshop that's been around since the '50s.  Over the years they had accumulated thier fare share of junkers.  We loaded them up and got in line, we were third IIRC.  No one else got to trade in a gun that day  The county was pretty pissed off about it, it was just so damn funny.



I bow before Garryowen and Hanz's former employer.  You, sirs, have done a service to your country.
6/3/2005 10:09:16 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I can make a plastic upper that will be good enough for a buy back... never said I would sell them "working" guns... the thing that makes it a gun with BATF is the S/N on the lower... I also have access to pallets of shitty police evidence guns I can buy by the pound.





6/3/2005 10:12:04 AM EDT
[#23]
Can your average joe do a "buy-back" program?
I'll give people $25 per gun all damn day!
It's for the children...
6/3/2005 10:12:07 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I can make a plastic upper that will be good enough for a buy back... never said I would sell them "working" guns... the thing that makes it a gun with BATF is the S/N on the lower... I also have access to pallets of shitty police evidence guns I can buy by the pound.



I was working P/T in the local gunshop that's been around since the '50s.  Over the years they had accumulated thier fare share of junkers.  We loaded them up and got in line, we were third IIRC.  No one else got to trade in a gun that day  The county was pretty pissed off about it, it was just so damn funny.



6/3/2005 10:45:21 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Anyone who knows of any gun "Buy Back" anyplace...e-mail me...I'll bankrupt it... I can push out 1500 CAV-15’s a day...

I am totally serious about this…

Shawn Nealon
CEO Cavalry Arms Corp
[email protected]
480-833-9685





They are supposed to have another one this summer here in vegas, they had one last fall and it was $50 wally world gift cards for pistols and $100 for longguns. It was held in a Wal Mart parking lot. I took 2 junker 22's , got my $200 in gift cards, went inside the store and came out with a new stainless 10/22 for around $20 out of pocket.
6/3/2005 12:00:17 PM EDT
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6/3/2005 12:44:42 PM EDT
[#27]
I remember sometime ago a GBB was conducted in some city in florida. They had collected little over a hundred guns, from ancient Mosin Nagant revolvers to the large numbers of Lorcins and small caliber handguns. However, what really set them off was an "Assault weapon" that was turned in, supposedly "off the streets', a Chinese made SKS. I'll try to pull up the article though, it reeked of PC.

Ben
6/3/2005 1:05:52 PM EDT
[#28]
Went down to one of the turn ins with my box of shit handguns, and a mosin nagant with bad headspace. There was a guy with an old SXS exposed hammer BP shotgun. A lady with a marlin in a bag. A lady with a BEAUTIFUL colt police .38. (Atleast it looked like it) And other junk guns around. I wish i had caugh the guy who turned in a garand, id have given him 100 bucks for it.
6/3/2005 1:06:09 PM EDT
[#29]
This is just one more ploy of Baltimore Mayor O'Malley for his run for Gov of MD.  I would love to see a truthful breakdown of what was received, how many were acutally functional weapons?  My Dad had some retired Baltimore City Detectives working for him and they told him during the last buyback they got some nice weapons that were "saved" from the melter!
6/3/2005 1:16:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Copyright Times Publishing Co. Sep 19, 1999
Some serious firepower came through the doors Saturday, along with lots of antiques and small-bore, hand-me-down handguns, officials say.

People turned over more than 1,900 guns in four Tampa Bay area counties Saturday, trading their weapons for a little peace of mind.

The gun buyback program called Cease Fire collected antique muzzle-loading rifles, World War I pistols, automatic weapons and sawed-off shotguns in Hillsborough, Pasco, Manatee and Sarasota counties.

And there was one gun that carried a chilling reminder for law enforcement throughout the Tampa Bay area.

In a pile of weapons at Tampa Police Headquarters on Saturday lay a Chinese-made SKS assault rifle, identical to the one Hank Earl Carr used to kill his girlfriend's son and a state trooper in a rampage last year that also claimed two Tampa police detectives' lives.

By the end of the day, 1,926 guns were collected: 380 in Pasco, 267 in Sarasota, 240 in Manatee and 1,039 in Hillsborough. In last year's effort, the first for Cease Fire, 1,300 guns were turned over in Hillsborough alone. Law enforcement officials declared Saturday's event a success nonetheless.

Most people turned in worthless old rifles and small-caliber handguns in exchange for their $40 gift certificates to Beall's or Winn-Dixie. But at the downtown collection site, a man turned in a well-maintained, fully automatic AK-47.

"He could've easily sold it for $1,000," said Tampa police Officer Steve Smith. "He'd never used it, never fired it and just felt uncomfortable having it around anymore. But he didn't want to sell it and have just anybody get hold of it."

So, he gave away a $1,000 gun for $40 gift certificates. It will soon be melted down, along with all the other guns turned in, and turned into manhole covers.

Eve and Rick Fraser were worried what might happen if their guns fell into the wrong hands, so they drove from Palm Harbor to a collection site at a Hillsborough Sheriff's Office substation in Town 'N Country. They turned in a ".38 special" handgun and a sawed-off shotgun.

"Mine were just sitting around collecting dust," Rick Fraser said. "I've never even fired them. But someone else could've easily broken into the house and stolen them and who knows what they could do."

Hillsborough sheriff's Cpl. Alan Hill, who oversaw the Town 'N Country collection, said the Frasers' concerns were valid. "If we save just one life with this buyback, then it has all been worth it," Hill said.

John Kerutis of St. Petersburg, who turned in a rifle and a pistol at a Tampa police substation near Raymond James Stadium, said he was disappointed Pinellas County did not participate in the buyback.

"It was a toss-up between driving to Bradenton or driving over here," Kerutis said. "I wish there had been something closer to home."

The myriad law enforcement agencies across in Pinellas could not come together in time for this year's buyback but are considering participating next year, said Pinellas County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Greg Tita.

Many of the guns had been passed down through the generations and were gathering dust.

In Pasco County, Robert Ferguson, 75, turned in a 10-gauge shotgun he said he has kept in his shed for 40 years.

"I remember how, as a kid, I'd fire it and it knocked me on my butt," Ferguson, 75, said of the 70-year-old gun. "But now I don't know what the heck I'm keeping it around for. I don't think you can even get ammo for it anymore."

Tampa police Lt. George McNamara said he wasn't disappointed that Hillsborough's total fell far short of last year's.

"I'm ecstatic," McNamara said. "In seven hours, 2,000 unwanted guns that could potentially put people at risk were collected. That's tremendous."

- Times Staff Writer Cary Davis contributed to this report.


Ben
6/3/2005 2:57:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Hmmm... $150 per LORCIN.

paging Mr. Owen... How much each to make a batch of single shot pistols (least amount of raw material possible?)


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Jersey City Gun Buyback Nets 897 Firearms
2/11/2005


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Few people in Jersey City anticipated the number of firearms ultimately turned over to police during a three-week gun-buyback program, the New York Times reported Feb. 10.

Police reported that 897 guns, ranging from cheap "Saturday-night specials" to machine guns, had been handed over in exchange for amnesty and money. The program, called Operation Lifesaver, paid $150 for handguns, rifles, and shotguns, $250 for automatic weapons, and $25 for BB guns. More than half of the weapons turned in were handguns.

The buyback money, provided by the Hudson County prosecutor's office and private donations, quickly ran out. Officials then started handing out IOU vouchers. Once all the money is doled out, a total of $115,725 will have been spent, officials said.

Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy and other city officials shrugged off reports that have questioned the effectiveness of gun buybacks. "These 897 guns that we got off the street are not going to be able to threaten, injure or kill anyone here in Jersey City," Healy said. "So whatever those studies say, I totally disagree with it."
6/3/2005 4:54:16 PM EDT
[#32]

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Hmmm... $150 per LORCIN.

paging Mr. Owen... How much each to make a batch of single shot pistols (least amount of raw material possible?)


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The program, called Operation Lifesaver, paid $150 for handguns, rifles, and shotguns, $250 for automatic weapons, and $25 for BB guns. More than half of the weapons turned in were handguns.

The buyback money, provided by the Hudson County prosecutor's office and private donations, quickly ran out. Officials then started handing out IOU vouchers. Once all the money is doled out, a total of $115,725 will have been spent, officials said.



you know how many "tube gun" SMG's I can make for about $100 each? I could so bury those fuckers...
6/3/2005 5:02:29 PM EDT
[#33]

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Hmmm... $150 per LORCIN.

paging Mr. Owen... How much each to make a batch of single shot pistols (least amount of raw material possible?)


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Jersey City Gun Buyback Nets 897 Firearms
2/11/2005


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Few people in Jersey City anticipated the number of firearms ultimately turned over to police during a three-week gun-buyback program, the New York Times reported Feb. 10.

Police reported that 897 guns, ranging from cheap "Saturday-night specials" to machine guns, had been handed over in exchange for amnesty and money. The program, called Operation Lifesaver, paid $150 for handguns, rifles, and shotguns, $250 for automatic weapons, and $25 for BB guns. More than half of the weapons turned in were handguns.

The buyback money, provided by the Hudson County prosecutor's office and private donations, quickly ran out. Officials then started handing out IOU vouchers. Once all the money is doled out, a total of $115,725 will have been spent, officials said.

Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy and other city officials shrugged off reports that have questioned the effectiveness of gun buybacks. "These 897 guns that we got off the street are not going to be able to threaten, injure or kill anyone here in Jersey City," Healy said. "So whatever those studies say, I totally disagree with it."



Dude, they'd better not be handing in NFA Class III items. Some of those gotta be handed down to the next generation, ME.

Anybody think they're talking about REAL automatic rifles or semi automatic clones?

Ben
6/3/2005 5:15:57 PM EDT
[#34]
Doesn't matter. Jersey doesn't allow NFA stuff. So... if the alleged AK47 was indeed a machinegun, it was surely illegal within these borders.
6/3/2005 5:30:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Since the most "chilling" gun turned in was an SKS, I'm willing to bet all those "automatic weapons and sawed-off shotguns" are only so much bullshit.
6/3/2005 5:34:43 PM EDT
[#36]

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Hmmm... $150 per LORCIN.

paging Mr. Owen... How much each to make a batch of single shot pistols (least amount of raw material possible?)


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The program, called Operation Lifesaver, paid $150 for handguns, rifles, and shotguns, $250 for automatic weapons, and $25 for BB guns. More than half of the weapons turned in were handguns.

The buyback money, provided by the Hudson County prosecutor's office and private donations, quickly ran out. Officials then started handing out IOU vouchers. Once all the money is doled out, a total of $115,725 will have been spent, officials said.



you know how many "tube gun" SMG's I can make for about $100 each? I could so bury those fuckers...



Do me a favor and let me in front of you before you bankrupt 'em-- I've got two or three junkers and I promise I'll put the money into a new gun.  

If you're ever really bored, check out the archives at my old hometown newspaper, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.  (If you ever need to register, just put in [email protected] as your email address.)  They had a buyback 6-7 years ago that netted an ORIGINAL but unpapered Colt Thompson.  It made national news-- I know a museum tried to save it, but in the end then-chief of police (LIBERAL PUKE) Arthur Jones had it smelted, drum and all.

Mike
6/3/2005 8:10:38 PM EDT
[#37]

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Hmmm... $150 per LORCIN.

paging Mr. Owen... How much each to make a batch of single shot pistols (least amount of raw material possible?)


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The program, called Operation Lifesaver, paid $150 for handguns, rifles, and shotguns, $250 for automatic weapons, and $25 for BB guns. More than half of the weapons turned in were handguns.

The buyback money, provided by the Hudson County prosecutor's office and private donations, quickly ran out. Officials then started handing out IOU vouchers. Once all the money is doled out, a total of $115,725 will have been spent, officials said.



you know how many "tube gun" SMG's I can make for about $100 each? I could so bury those fuckers...



Are you a class 3 manufacturer?  if so, by all means bury them.