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Posted: 2/27/2001 7:11:09 PM EDT
Any word on the config and price?  I learned from the FAL to sit low until something is confirmed.  

I wish bushmaster would just give a price sheet.
1-50  $xxxxx
51-100 $xxxxx
100-200 $xxxxx
Link Posted: 2/27/2001 7:12:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2001 8:02:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2001 10:17:35 PM EDT
I'd also like to know what the latest on this is.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 12:16:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:00:06 AM EDT
Still waiting on prices.  It is taking longer than expected, but what else can we do?  We just need to sit tight and wait.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:41:20 AM EDT
I've said over and over again, no need to wait on ordering. Buy a Rock River Arms, (which has NO block in the rear of lower) with a singel stage trigger, ANY upper you want, and I can probably get your ar15.com serial number for $555 of 100 or more, or $575 for single sales with no ar15.com logo.  Only catch is RRA is slow to ship.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:44:43 AM EDT
Someone on here once said, "why should we pay his markup fee" well, if you call $10 much of a markup then so be it, but keep in mind, I'm a small dealer that would be shipping to about 40 states at over 100 addresses, do I make any money?  NO, this is a service I'm offering to the AR.15 forum, just because I like you guys, everyone seems to be sincere.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 6:04:48 AM EDT
Don't forget that we could get Cavalry Arms to do the lowers... Completely custom S/N & logos possible and colors. Combine that with a buy on uppers & you have a real winner. I bet we could get a price really quickly as well.....
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:22:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:41:58 AM EDT
And who are you with Garryowen? Would like to know, might order something from ya.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:50:38 AM EDT

 Do you build M4A3 lookalikes with the fixed telestock, M4 type barrel and a brake of some sort?  Maybe a Wilson or KKF A2 lookalike?  If so what would be the figure for that?  If the group purchase doesnt go through or they choose a different model I would be interested in such a configuration as long as I know what all is on it.  Thanks
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:54:06 AM EDT
Garyowen is the proprietor of Cavalry Arms. I have 2 of his lowere & 2 of his brakes. I will be using his products in the future. We may be seeing the wave of the future for AR's.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:56:25 AM EDT
Cav Arms makes brakes like you are asking for.

Link Posted: 2/28/2001 8:03:24 AM EDT
Only catch is RRA is slow to ship.
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This has not been my experience.

I order a new furniture set, and a NM trigger.

They shipped same day. received shipment 3 business days later. Nice stuff too.

I think I may have found a new supplier for my AR's.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 8:35:04 AM EDT
Waiting a little longer would be the best idea to me. Nothing to lose, and we will still have all options open in the end.

Do we have a final count for all buyers & number of rifles yet? Whoever we go with for the “contract”, it will be a plus for them as well, considering the amount of hits this Website gets.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 9:56:35 AM EDT
Guntoter,  as far as the M4 goes I can have them build any config you wish, except the barrel probably won't be step down, (not that you need it)Muzzlebreak and stock not a problem.

Garandman, plastic & acessories is totally different than a complete gun.  I've ordered over 50 guns from them early last year, they were quick to ship, but they are very far behind right now.

About Cav. Arms, I'm not against them because I am not familiar with their product, but if they have a problem (other than they compete) with Rock River Arms, let's hear it, let us form our own opinion.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 10:20:52 AM EDT

Who are you with and where are you located?  I may be interested in a plain jane 20" or an A1 carbine, if available.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 12:46:24 PM EDT
I own Shooting Sports in Kentucky, I deal mainly with AR-15's.  
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 12:50:43 PM EDT
Go Big Blue! What part of the Bluegrass State?
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 1:22:13 PM EDT
03Bullseye, where in KY? What's the rules concerning a bordering state sale?

As far as the group purchase goes, this keeps popping in my mind "good things comes to those that wait".
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 1:32:10 PM EDT
03bullseye where in KY.

A boardering state can by long guns as long as it is not prohibited by your state.  I live in Ohio 26 miles from the KY boarder and have bought many rifles in KY.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:03:24 PM EDT
I am 25 minutes from Cincinnati, 45 minutes from Lexington. I am 1 mile from I75.  I can see I75 from back door.  

BeauBeaux - I am on the Marine Corps Rifle Team and shoot at Oak Ridge often, how far are you from there.

Akrazy- My Marine MP unit is in Dayton, I probably pass you too.

Won't be able to respond til morning.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:15:16 PM EDT
I just happened to visit this topic and read the comments about garryowen and the cavalry arms lower.

I've had one of the cav. arms lowers for a couple of weeks now. I put an M4gery upper on it. It's very cool. Cool enough for my buddy (former bolt-gun only boy) to buy one after he tried mine last week.

If anyone has any specific questions about this lower, e-mail me direct. I'll be happy to answer anything I can.

Link Posted: 2/28/2001 3:42:17 PM EDT
When I spoke to the VP of Sales at Bushmaster last week he had to take proposal to CEO for the special configuration we asked for.  We also have requested a proposal from Rock River for the exact same config.  

We are in IL close to Rock River.  Our experience is they are higher in price & slower in deliverly but 2-300+ rifles should get their attention.   Hopefully antiUSSA will hear from both tomorrow but his Kidney stones have been acting up & I am on the road.

We want to post the info from both at one time.

Link Posted: 2/28/2001 4:49:36 PM EDT
any idea on a price yet?
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 4:57:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:03:04 PM EDT
I am waiting to hear what Bushy answers, as opposed to RRA, I just want the best deal for my money. I have contacted 03bulsseye privately, and he seems to be an honest dealer and member of this forum. It does not seems to me that he is trying to make a killing$$$ here at our expense (so what if he makes $10.00 per rifle).

Link Posted: 2/28/2001 7:14:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 8:13:18 PM EDT
Why is the discussion even in the air on the 10 dollars per gun issue. I would be happy to do a flat rate fee (like 100.00 that would be less then 50C per gun) to fill out the FFL paperwork. We also get discount rates through UPS on our shipping. I guess no-one read my last post :-( [sniper]

Bullseye I sent a copy of our ffl to you yesterday incase I ever need something quick.
Link Posted: 2/28/2001 9:49:18 PM EDT
Well, seems like we are all on the same side, wanting the same things.  So far, everyone I have heard from including over 30 emails seems to be very genuine and sincere. I think that's why I prefer the gun crowds over sports.  I'm here if anybody needs anything.
Link Posted: 3/1/2001 6:41:40 AM EDT
03Bullseye, I am in west TN, sad to say the democratic stronghold [Shelby Co.] Keep us posted on your shooting and on any specials you might have going.
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