Posted: 5/2/2006 7:46:39 PM EDT
| How different is the grip angle on a 1911 than on a glock? I ask this because I want either a Glock 35 or 1911 for competition. |
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Enough that the glock feels wonky to me. Perhaps I'm just not used to it, but it doesn't feel right, whereas the 1911 feels fine (the 1911 was the first pistol I ever fired). For what it's worth (the paper it's printed on), the USP grip feels wrong to me as well, like a Ruger grip. And where the 1911 feels fine, Sigs and Springfield XD's feel great. It doesn't matter that THEY are different, so much as it does that WE are different. |
So since since I already have a Glock 17, I should get a 35 rather than a SA loaded 1911? |
I'd go for SA Loaded...  Glock was meant to be had in 9mm. And for me, one Glock is enough. |
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I own and shoot both....It doesn't fucking matter. If you can't pick either of these relialble firearms up and shoot it straight then sell the fuckers and start knitting. Otherwise, your just another "Glocks suck" asshat looking for reason to get old too fucking quick. That is all. |
| You really need to try out pistols until you find one that points naturally for you. Everyone is different. You may find that neither point quickly. I tried a number of guns until I found that the Sig P220 came to my eye the quickest. A G21 high & right and a I had to hunt the sights on a 1911. The size of the grip, the angle, the shape of your hand and your drawing technique all factor into the fit. You want to be able to draw fast, have the sights be where you expect them and not have to adjust your hand or lossen your grip or pull the pistol on target. Some is gun, some is technique. |
Same for me. I like the Glock in theory, it just doesn't point right for me. The 1911 feels more "right" in my paw than any other handgun, it points beautifully for me. I can look at a target, close my eyes and point, and when I open them the 1911 is where it needs to be, the Glock is shooting way over the hypothetical "badguys" head. I'm sure if I shot Glocks enough I could compensate, but should I really have to? 
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| I'm a 1911 shooter and never like the glock grip angle. I recently discovered that if I hold the glock the same as a 1911 and duck my head down a little, the sights line right up. I just have to tilt my down a little while drawing, and the glock is right on target. I now plan on getting a glock 19 to carry when my full size 1911 will be too big. |
Haven't had one yet on my SA 1911-A1. Shot placement. You planning on taking on Al Q single handed with your trusty Glock? A handgun is a piss poor subsitute for a rifle, likewise, more capacity will only encourage shitty shot placement. |
oh trust me, my pistol marksmanship is far from lacking and I practice often. however it is better to have and not need than to need and not have, especially when it comes to ammo. |
I don't disagree, which is why there are hicaps out there like the Sigs, HKs, and SA that offer better capacity than the 1911 with real safeties, DA or SA operation, and the same grip angle. |
Thank you for your well-reasoned and convincing argument for your case. 
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I apologize for this not being clear to you... |
It's perfectly clear. It's stupid as a monkey fucking a football, but it's clear. |
My 1911s don't stovepipe, and if you haven't done it with 7 rounds you have already ran out of time. Squishy triggers just don't cut it. |
Yeah. Perhaps you can train yourself with both, but why? I'd rather be dead on with one type than pretty good with both. |
One thing not clear from his post is how fast he can aquire target and "shoot straight" while switching between the two types . . . some might be pretty good but I don't see how they could not be compromising peak perfomance. That said, many don't practice their DA pull, rapid target aquisition, etc., but prefer to collect firearms they don't use very well. |
The back strap is the reall killer and took about 1500 rounds to get used to. Though I have recently given up on 1911s and shoot glocks now. The grip angle was the one thing keeping my from buying a glock for MANY years. I just bit the bullet and moved on. CH |
ahahahah +1. I haven't had a problem with any pistol from a reputable maker, with grip angle vis a vis accuracy. |
I have "gotten both" and still find myself carrying the 1911. I don't like the grip angle, and don't intend to cross-train with it for this very purpose. I don't think I would be as effective with both as I would be with either. The G17 has become Mrs gorilla's bedside gun because I just don't want to sell it. |
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If you want a competition pistol that won't require a bunch of tweaking and gunsmithing to get it to run 100% ALL the time with light loads, buy the G35. Me and 3 other guys with Glocks used to beat the pants off of most of the competition at our local USPSA events so they can definitely compete with the best 1911's... and do it at a third of the cost. There were guys out there with every super duper 1911 you can name: STI, Brazo's Custom, Custom Para's, etc. Rigs that were upwards of $3500 for JUST the gun. Here we were with a $550 Glock with about $200 in mods and our times/accuracy were as good if not better than theirs. Grip angle be damned. |
hmmm. |
| There are a variety of different grip angles. The originator mentioned two types of pistol, so he's onlt talking about two. Some people can get used to something odd, that is, different with practice, but that will create problems when one tries to use the other. I have found that some work well with my hand and wrist geometry, and others do not. Since I don't want to go through contortions and lose advantage byt having to make an effort vs. something which falls naturally into place, I haven't picked a brand and tried to fit it. I would say, find one that feels good to you and then go with that. ANother problem you will find with grips is the overall geometry, including the design of the palm swwell - particularly on Glock. It fits some people fine, I find it horribly uncomfortable. YMMV. I suppose that's why SIG sells some pistols with changeable palm swells. Walther, also. Don't approach the problem from the wrong direction. BTW, I use BHP. |
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