Posted: 5/8/2009 1:06:43 AM EDT
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I figure I would ask my question in this part of the forum. I recently became a SkyWarn Spotter and was looking at yellow strobes. As I was glancing at the selections, I noticed the usual colors: Yellow = Caution/Work/DOT/etc Red = Fire/EMS/LEO/etc Blue = LEO White = Anyone and then I saw... Green? I have never seen green strobe before nor have I seen it used by anyone. Several websites are selling different variations of the green strobe. Who is green assigned to? |
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I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located.
As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- |
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I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- IIRC that is the case in my state as well. |
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Quoted: I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- This is correct. Green is the "command post" color. |
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In Texas, at least in the 90's, one might find green strobes on coastal wildlife enforcement boats.
_____________________________________ ("And if you see a flashing blue or green light on the high seas, he's not coming at you.....he's coming for you!"––QM1 during a rules of the road lesson, (w,stte)) |
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I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- This. I know when I was in Chicago, their ambulances had green in them (like with the normal flash pattern) Guess it just depends on where you are. |
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In Va the law states:
D. Vehicles used by police, fire-fighting, or rescue personnel as command centers at the scene of incidents may be equipped with and use green warning lights of a type approved by the Superintendent. Such lights shall not be activated while the vehicle is operating upon the highway. and purple: C. Vehicles used to lead or provide escorts for funeral processions may use either amber warning lights or purple warning lights, but amber warning lights and purple warning lights shall not simultaneously be used on the same vehicle. The Superintendent of State Police shall develop standards and specifications for purple lights authorized in this subsection. Blue lights are reserved for LE Red and white can be used for Fire and Rescue to include volunteers. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- This. I know when I was in Chicago, their ambulances had green in them (like with the normal flash pattern) Guess it just depends on where you are. IIRC their fire trucks do to, and it's some sort of tradition for Chicago FD |
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Green is a Chicago thing for Fire/EMS because they can't use blue––––a ways back, when red was the emergency color for everything in IL, some moron at CPD (who seems to have transferred the moron gene to D.C. Metro and my dept.,) decided that a good way to reduce crime and accidents was to have all PD cars drive with their red lights on at all times after dark. After a couple months of this, no one would react to red anymore, as it was always flashing somewhere, so Chicago got the law changed to allow blue for CPD cars so they could get a reaction. At the same time, their EMS and FD types started using green and red to also stand out.
(Ever wondered why all the cop cars in the Blues Brothers used red except CPD? That's why––-at the time IL was still a red light state for LE, except CPD.) Down here I have seen it for command posts, mixed with red for HAZMAT response vehicles, and, a while back, on a S.O.'s vehicles when I worked in MS––––we had little to no ability to communicate with them (phone from dispatch only,) and the sheriff stuck a small green strobe on most of his vehicles to be activated only when responding to deputy needs assistance calls. There were not many road deputies in the county, and the idea was that if any of us local yokels saw a sheriff's vehicle running code with the green on, we were to follow them and notify our dispatch to try and call their overworked (usually working alone) dispatch to get details. |
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Quoted: I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- This, although green isn't a "controlled" (IE LE/FD or other "authorized") color like flashing, oscillating, or rotating and visible-to-the-front red, blue, or white in Illannoys. It's more of an "accepted standard". Although when tommytrauma was an MP in NYS, the volunteer EMS ran green rotators, fire ran red, and LE ran blue. ETA - see 762DM's confirm on this. Many years ago I saw a guy who had a Whelen MicroEdge with green lenses on a plain minivan - no "M" (Municipal) plates, and no FD marking whatsoever. |
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In WA volunteer firefighters are allowed to use green lights in their POV's. They still have to obey all traffic laws though even with the green lights on.
Every now and then I have to have a discussion with the fire Capt and a new volunteer regarding the use of the green lights and obeying traffic laws. I cringe every time I hear the tones go out after a new class of volunteer FF's graduates. They get so amped up and then fly through town to get to the truck. Last year I almost got run over by one doing at least 40 on a residential street. She responding to an aid call and wasn't even and EMT yet. The ass chewing by me and the Capt. usually fixes the problem. |
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Green is for fire dept here as they use it on the command post. Yea much easy to find out where is the Chief in a major incident.
You can't use the green as it is part of the code here. There is some lobbying to add the green light for any firefighter that would be on is way to the station/ incident with is personnal vehicule. |
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I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- This.......... All of our battalion chiefs have a green strobe mounted on their vehicles. |
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Texas doesn't have any sort of official standard as far as light color (although I'm sure NIMS will try to change it ), although the flashing green strobe is generally reserved for command vehicles used as the command post.Yea........ Thats what our county is already telling us.... The green lights are mounted on the chief buggies because of NIMS. |
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Found it in the Florida Statute. 316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.–– "...Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property..." |
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Green is Volunteer Ambulance Here I believe. Blue is for FD, and Amber is for security/general purposes(i.e. Landscapers with big trailers), Police or department vehicles for Fire and Ambulance are Red/Blue sometimes with a white strobe or amber flashers thrown in for good measure.
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It obviously varies by state,
The only place I have seen green lights on an emergency vehicle is Canada. We did a US/Can fire school one weekend last year and they used green on their ambulances and the booths sold green strobes for their POV's. In VT we use red for fire, blue for PD. kept simple, Fed responders use a mix of red/blue along with border patrol. |
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I know that our fire dept (and others around us) have green strobes on a pole that the raise on large scene to designate where the Command Post/Incident Command is located. As I recall from Incident command training that was a "standard" under the incident command system that we were taught. J- this in MN (or at least in my area, SE MN.) |
), although the flashing green strobe is generally reserved for command vehicles used as the command post.