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11/1/2014 1:59:14 AM EDT
Yeah this should be in the tech forum, but whatever.

A few years ago when I had a gen 3 19, I wanted to replace the serrated trigger with a smooth trigger. My boss at the time had a lot of spare parts and told me I could take a trigger. I later found out they were gen 1 G17 triggers. Basic function check seemed fine, so I took it to the range. I got a couple of inexplicable failures to feed at first, but obviously that had nothing to do with the trigger. But when it began to run right, it immediately went full auto.

Now, I don't know if I was inadvertently bump-firing it, but it sure felt like full auto. I immediately swapped the factory G19 trigger back in, and it went back to normal function. I later learned the cut of the trigger bar on the gen 1 was different than all since. But can someone explain to me why it made my G19 go full auto?
11/1/2014 2:07:23 AM EDT
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Yeah this should be in the tech forum, but whatever.

A few years ago when I had a gen 3 19, I wanted to replace the serrated trigger with a smooth trigger. My boss at the time had a lot of spare parts and told me I could take a trigger. I later found out they were gen 1 G17 triggers. Basic function check seemed fine, so I took it to the range. I got a couple of inexplicable failures to feed at first, but obviously that had nothing to do with the trigger. But when it began to run right, it immediately went full auto.

Now, I don't know if I was inadvertently bump-firing it, but it sure felt like full auto. I immediately swapped the factory G19 trigger back in, and it went back to normal function. I later learned the cut of the trigger bar on the gen 1 was different than all since. But can someone explain to me why it made my G19 go full auto?
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Full auto on a Glock is a pretty high rate of fire.
Pretty scary if you aren't expecting it.
G17 trigger bars can be had a multiple vendors for cheap.
Good luck!
11/1/2014 2:20:45 AM EDT
[#2]
If the trigger bar and sear aren't making enough contact it can fire on release.  When it does this, you usually end up bump firing several rounds.
11/1/2014 3:23:22 AM EDT
[#3]
The back of the cruciform on the trigger bar is what catches the front of the firing pin as the slide closes. If the trigger bar and firing pin have too little engagement (an orange partial slide cover plate is made to check this) the firing pin can slip off the cruciform. I suppose under certain circumstances this could cause the gun to go full-auto.
11/1/2014 6:02:13 AM EDT
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The back of the cruciform on the trigger bar is what catches the front of the firing pin as the slide closes. If the trigger bar and firing pin have too little engagement (an orange partial slide cover plate is made to check this) the firing pin can slip off the cruciform. I suppose under certain circumstances this could cause the gun to go full-auto.
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This.

New trigger with trigger bar, connector and firing pin should solve the issue. I would still check engagement afterward.

I've also seen good engagement go bad when a fully loaded magazine was inserted.
11/1/2014 6:18:13 AM EDT
[#5]
I know it was accidental, but I wouldnt be advertising that I made anything full auto, intentional or inadvertently.  

Just sayin....
11/1/2014 11:19:15 AM EDT
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The gun has since been sold. It was a few years ago. I ended up finding a Gen 3 17 trigger bar for it and all was well. The trigger bar I had was factory Glock from the 80s.
11/1/2014 11:31:33 AM EDT
[#7]
The statute of limitations for manufacturing a machine gun is more than a few years.
11/1/2014 11:34:42 AM EDT
[#8]
The dimensions between generations are probably just a tad different.