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Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. |
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Quoted: And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Slow the spread.... of oil products...jk. But I did buy some engine oil today, enough to do each vehicle once and each is on a freshish change. My car is the only one that really gets used, and I can change it twice. Why does the wife car have to take something different. Not a panic buy at all, as I normally keep enough around for a change in each. But we are all great full for your info here. |
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Quoted: That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Quoted: Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Like what 13% of global production? That means we still have 87% |
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Quoted: Like what 13% of global production? That means we still have 87% Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Like what 13% of global production? That means we still have 87% Please see the video in the start of the thread. And my posts throughout this thread. Particularly the ones where I posted pictures. Crude =/= finished product. |
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Quoted: Please see the video in the start of the thread. And my posts throughout this thread. Particularly the ones where I posted pictures. Crude =/= finished product. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Like what 13% of global production? That means we still have 87% Please see the video in the start of the thread. And my posts throughout this thread. Particularly the ones where I posted pictures. Crude =/= finished product. I will try to watch the video later and go read your posts. The reality is it’s all out of my control so there is really no point in letting it get me worried or worked up. |
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Quoted: I will try to watch the video later and go read your posts. The reality is it’s all out of my control so there is really no point in letting it get me worried or worked up. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Like what 13% of global production? That means we still have 87% Please see the video in the start of the thread. And my posts throughout this thread. Particularly the ones where I posted pictures. Crude =/= finished product. I will try to watch the video later and go read your posts. The reality is it’s all out of my control so there is really no point in letting it get me worried or worked up. If there are things you will need (actually need) soon, not putting them off might save you headache. I was motivated to change all the vehicle oils that are anywhere near needing it and replace some tires I was going to need to replace in the next 90 days anyway. Also I decided to neckbeard some nitrile gloves. |
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Quoted: I'm not sure how it's related exactly, but we got a notice today that all foam products we use (ICF wall forms and insulation board) is going to see a 10% jump effective immediately. It's absolutely related. Anyone seeing or hearing of price increases as a result of this conflict and the radical islamist fucks attacking refineries and choking the strait should post so others are informed and aware. |
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Quoted: It's absolutely related. Anyone seeing or hearing of price increases as a result of this conflict and the radical islamist fucks attacking refineries and choking the strait should post so others are informed and aware. Quoted: Quoted: I'm not sure how it's related exactly, but we got a notice today that all foam products we use (ICF wall forms and insulation board) is going to see a 10% jump effective immediately. It's absolutely related. Anyone seeing or hearing of price increases as a result of this conflict and the radical islamist fucks attacking refineries and choking the strait should post so others are informed and aware. Base materials for all plastics are directly and severely impacted. They’re being hit now. As there’s not as much of a supply cushion as there is in my industry. Everyone in my little world has 20-30 days of inventory. |
| So should we be stocking up on oil or wait to see in 2 weeks? I have 5 oil changes worth of Pennzoil platinum 0w40 for my ram and enough for my other vehicles till next spring. I was going to get more Kirkland 5w30 on sale but now with the 2 week negotiation window I’m not sure what to think. |
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Quoted: So should we be stocking up on oil or wait to see in 2 weeks? I have 5 oil changes worth of Pennzoil platinum 0w40 for my ram and enough for my other vehicles till next spring. I was going to get more Kirkland 5w30 on sale but now with the 2 week negotiation window I’m not sure what to think. Refineries are blown up. They'll take time to rebuild. The ceasefire can amd is likely to collapse at any time. You're better off buying now. I ordered two jugs og 0W-16 from Walmart. One shipped from the store the other saud delayed. When I looked on the site it was OOS. Amazon was OOS also. I canceled that one jug and got two jugs of their SuperTech instead. This is worse than covid in many ways because things aren't just shut down. They're destroyed and muse be rebuilt, plus radical murderous islamist fucks. |
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there is a certain logic to the original premise of the thread. regardless if the straits are opened you have a lag in supply and you will have a lag in product coming out of the gulf due to the destruction. i lived through the arab oil embargo of the 70s. i got through ok because i had access to a commercial depo. but i saw the craziness. the lines, the limited amount of gas you could buy, the actual out-of-gas at the pump and the odd/even tag thing. it was not fun. we produce enough in this country for ourselves. but the market is global so prices will be impacted regardless for some time. and there could be shortages here. its happened before. we have to deal with the worldwide logistic issues and the market. i topped off all three of my cars on tuesday before the 2 oclock deadline to end iran as a country which has since been put on hold. i also stored 15 gallons in drums in storage shed. i may add another 10 or 20 gallons depending on what goes on. |
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Quoted: there is a certain logic to the original premise of the thread. regardless if the straits are opened you have a lag in supply and you will have a lag in product coming out of the gulf due to the destruction. i lived through the arab oil embargo of the 70s. i got through ok because i had access to a commercial depo. but i saw the craziness. the lines, the limited amount of gas you could buy, the actual out-of-gas at the pump and the odd/even tag thing. it was not fun. we produce enough in this country for ourselves. but the market is global so prices will be impacted regardless for some time. and there could be shortages here. its happened before. we have to deal with the worldwide logistic issues and the market. i topped off all three of my cars on tuesday before the 2 oclock deadline to end iran as a country which has since been put on hold. i also stored 15 gallons in drums in storage shed. i may add another 10 or 20 gallons depending on what goes on. Gas is one thing, oils/lubricants (not to mention other petrochemical products) are another. Gas prices may go up, but lubricants availability looks like it will be the bigger issue, as a huge percentage of production is offline for an unknown length of time, due to damage to the facilities. |
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Fuel-price protests cause chaos in Ireland and spread to Norway https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/10/fuel-price-protests-chaos-ireland-norway Hauliers, farmers and other groups blocked motorways and brought parts of Dublin to a standstill on Friday in a fourth consecutive day of action. In Ireland the protests have sparked fuel shortages and travel disruption, and in Norway lorry drivers taking part in the “diesel roar” protest descended on the capital. The Irish government put the army on standby to help remove blockades and police warned some protesters to disperse or face arrest, prompting defiance and threats to continue the disruption for weeks if necessary. Despite government mitigation measures, in recent weeks the price of diesel has risen from about €1.70 a litre to €2.17 and petrol has jumped from about €1.74 to €1.97. The justice minister, Jim O’Callaghan, said “outside actors”, such as the British far-right activist Tommy Robinson, were manipulating the protests for their own agenda. Some countries announced temporary cuts in fuel taxes while others took measures to restrict demand and considered rationing. The Philippines declared a state of “national energy emergency”. Authorities in France tried to avert widespread shortages by announcing on Friday that fuel tankers would be allowed to circulate on weekends and public holidays until 11 May. In Norway protesters on Friday drove a convoy of lorries to the parliament in Oslo. About 70 to 80 trucks, some with banners that read “nok er nok!” (enough is enough!), joined another group known as Dieselbrølet (diesel roar). Only a handful were allowed to drive into the capital. |
| Someone mentioned fram going bankrupt and advance auto clearing out their product. I bought $60 of oil and air filters and saved $250! Another store I bought 11 quarts of fram transmission fluid half off along with some more filters. Big thanks to whoever posted it! |
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Quoted: I stocked up on cases of grease and enough oil to service everything twice for the year. Better safe than sorry. Bought oil for the trucks and the Durango a few days ago. All the tractors and equipment should be good for a year, so not too worried about those at the moment. |
If this is accurate, and I believe it is, I wouldn’t expect domestic prices to come down too soon. Demand is off the charts it seems -
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Quoted: If this is accurate, and I believe it is, I wouldn’t expect domestic prices to come down too soon. Demand is off the charts it seems -
Demand is off the charts because countries without energy security, are scrambling for any and all product. I’m currently standing in Auckland. And they’re down to ~16 days of fuel on hand. So they’re trying to buy anything that’s floating. Or can be floated. |
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Quoted: Demand is off the charts because countries without energy security, are scrambling for any and all product. I’m currently standing in Auckland. And they’re down to ~16 days of fuel on hand. So they’re trying to buy anything that’s floating. Or can be floated. Quoted: Quoted: If this is accurate, and I believe it is, I wouldn’t expect domestic prices to come down too soon. Demand is off the charts it seems -
Demand is off the charts because countries without energy security, are scrambling for any and all product. I’m currently standing in Auckland. And they’re down to ~16 days of fuel on hand. So they’re trying to buy anything that’s floating. Or can be floated. Absolutely. This is pretty epic. ETA: I mean, and pardon my French but look at that shit. It’s epic. ETAx2: This hasn’t been seen in decades (U.S.inundated by tankers/supertankers). |
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Quoted: That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Quoted: Quoted: I'm not trying to disrupt anyones doom party but Crude is down %13 That’s good for fuel pricing. However petrochemical complexes are still down and damaged. It’s still going to take 90+ days to get shipping restored. Base oils in the U.S. are already running out. And we will see what the next 2 weeks brings. Went out and checked my stock and I have around 20 gallons of different specs oil so I'm good for a couple years. I do need to get some hydraulic fluid yet for my Grasshopper ZT, I did the Kubota last year. |
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Quoted: So it’s Sunday the 12th. The deals are officially done and has fallen through. Were a few weeks since this thread began. Doom or no doom who cares. How fucked are we? What’s the time table looking like for another big increase? Percentage wise, a larger amount of global oil supply is now shut in, than the oil embargo’s of 1973. That was around 7%. Led to 300% price increases. This is ~9%. And so far around 55% increases. The next Big Crunch will be May 1. When all the contracts land again. |
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Quoted: 80 quarts? How many cars do you maintain? That’s like 8-10 years of oil for me with 3 cars lol Quoted: Quoted: I pulled the trigger for another 80 quarts of synthetic oil at Costco this morning. I’ll have to take inventory to see where I’m at. 80 quarts? How many cars do you maintain? That’s like 8-10 years of oil for me with 3 cars lol That’s for three cars, two kids in sports 5 days of the week for an hr round trip a day, wife’s drive to work is an hr drive. I change at 4 thousand miles |
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Quoted: Percentage wise, a larger amount of global oil supply is now shut in, than the oil embargo’s of 1973. That was around 7%. Led to 300% price increases. This is ~9%. And so far around 55% increases. The next Big Crunch will be May 1. When all the contracts land again. Quoted: Quoted: So it’s Sunday the 12th. The deals are officially done and has fallen through. Were a few weeks since this thread began. Doom or no doom who cares. How fucked are we? What’s the time table looking like for another big increase? Percentage wise, a larger amount of global oil supply is now shut in, than the oil embargo’s of 1973. That was around 7%. Led to 300% price increases. This is ~9%. And so far around 55% increases. The next Big Crunch will be May 1. When all the contracts land again. I'm watching a tiny bidding war on tillable rental land right now locally. People are getting pissed. I'm guessing it's coming down to who has fuel on hand vs who doesn't. A few of the bigger operations are able to stock a tanker or two at a time and already filled tanks for the year. |
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Quoted: Foxtrot does it make a difference storing indoors in a temp controlled basement for a few years or is it fine in Minnesota winters and summer in a shed? i thought about that. vapor pressure is a thing. i thought i was cool with a bunch of mfc's. they (southern ) "swollered" up that i thought they would burst. get metal cans. do not store fuel inside a house. you and insurance. |
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Quoted: It will be completely catastrophic especially if Iran retaliates by taking out the rest of the GCC oil and gas infrastructure. Quoted: Quoted: Will be interesting to see what the blockade of the Strait does to prices. It will be completely catastrophic especially if Iran retaliates by taking out the rest of the GCC oil and gas infrastructure. This is the wildcard right now. |
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Quoted: It will be completely catastrophic especially if Iran retaliates by taking out the rest of the GCC oil and gas infrastructure. SE Asian countries and India will be hit hard. Indian restaurants ran out of cooking gas and snapped up induction cooktops, which meant they were unavailable to regular people for home use. The Philippines are in a very bad way. NZ only has about 16 days of fuel left I was shocked to see Australia was getting at least two tankers (oil, not sure) from the US. Been decades since that happened, I read. |
| What I will find interesting to watch if gas prices here go really high: will all the employers that forced people back into the office allow them to work from home, least a few days a week? This has been recommended or mandated in some SE Asia countries, Australia, and NZ. |
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Quoted: What I will find interesting to watch if gas prices here go really high: will all the employers that forced people back into the office allow them to work from home, least a few days a week? This has been recommended or mandated in some SE Asia countries, Australia, and NZ. LOL. Pepperidge Farm.... 
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Quoted: Foxtrot does it make a difference storing indoors in a temp controlled basement for a few years or is it fine in Minnesota winters and summer in a shed? For fuel or lubricants? Lubricants, I mean eventually the seals will go bad and you’ll get some moisture in them. But that’s years. Fuel… uh, I wouldn’t store fuel inside your basement. |
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Quoted: It will be completely catastrophic especially if Iran retaliates by taking out the rest of the GCC oil and gas infrastructure. Quoted: Quoted: Will be interesting to see what the blockade of the Strait does to prices. It will be completely catastrophic especially if Iran retaliates by taking out the rest of the GCC oil and gas infrastructure. If the Strait of Hormuz is effectively closed, the impact on global oil supply is massive—one of the largest shocks possible. Here’s the realistic scale: ?? ?? Total oil supply disruption Normal flow through Hormuz: About ~20% of global oil supply Roughly 20 million barrels per day ?? Why it’s not a full 20% drop (important nuance) Even with a “closure”: 1) Alternative routes exist Saudi pipelines to the Red Sea UAE pipeline to Fujairah ?? These reduce losses somewhat Even a 10% disruption is: ?? The largest oil shock since the 1970s ?? Real-world effects already seen Oil prices spiking toward or above $100–$140+ Global Economic crisis inbound ?? Oil impact: ~$150 ? $200+ per barrel Some forecasts suggest extreme spikes near $200 ? Gas price: ?? $6.00 – $9.00+ per gallon MIGA |
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Quoted: Someone mentioned fram going bankrupt and advance auto clearing out their product. I bought $60 of oil and air filters and saved $250! Another store I bought 11 quarts of fram transmission fluid half off along with some more filters. Big thanks to whoever posted it! Thanks for posting that, grabbed a couple of premium air filters that were heavily marked down. |