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8/14/2026 6:05:42 PM EDT
Jury finds comes to unanimous ruling in Sig Sauer unintended discharge case
8/14/2026 6:46:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Oooooo the haters are going to MAD.
8/14/2026 6:48:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Please, God, look upon the Sig haters and sheppard them to a place of peace and understanding.
8/14/2026 6:58:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Would you really trust a jury on a case like that? The lawyers from Sig did a better job at defending their product.

At the end of the day, would you carry one?
For me; Nope. Too many other better options.
8/14/2026 7:03:58 PM EDT
[#4]
I really like the feel and the natural point that the P320 has. My first was a full size, followed by a compact and sub-compact. All are now currently unloaded sitting in the safe. Will I ever shoot them again? Who knows, but probably not.
8/14/2026 7:13:21 PM EDT
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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.
8/14/2026 7:18:49 PM EDT
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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.
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Almost certainly never fired a gun in their life. Courts love to exclude jurors who have any knowledge at all about the subject matter of the case.

A dumb jury is a more malleable jury.
8/14/2026 7:20:23 PM EDT
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Even if by some miracle the SIG P320 isn't without defect, Sig showing what a bunch of assholes they really are
would keep me from ever buying one. Fuck Sig!
8/14/2026 7:22:16 PM EDT
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Would you really trust a jury on a case like that? The lawyers from Sig did a better job at defending their product.

At the end of the day, would you carry one?
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Anything technical is difficult to get a proper ruling when dealing with the court system in general, let alone with a jury.

The courts decided that Colt's 6940 series was a knockoff of LMT's MRP, despite being a two-piece with an entirely different barrel attachment system.

The P320 issue is a very technical one, no one can even agree on how the spontaneous firing occurs, let alone the cause.

8/14/2026 7:23:17 PM EDT
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The P320 was right there in the courtroom with them. They were intimidated.
8/14/2026 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.
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I can see jurors claiming knowledge of pistols being excused for cause.
8/14/2026 7:36:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Sig will be plastering this on their website immediately without a doubt.
8/14/2026 7:43:54 PM EDT
[#12]
Big tobacco won many jury trials but once they started losing they augered in pretty significantly.






8/14/2026 7:50:14 PM EDT
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The P320 was right there in the courtroom with them. They were intimidated.
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Bigger_Hammer
8/14/2026 7:54:06 PM EDT
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Would you really trust a jury on a case like that? The lawyers from Sig did a better job at defending their product.

At the end of the day, would you carry one?
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This. A jury of mechanical engineers and metallurgists is trust. Random people? Nope.

Not gonna own a P320.
8/14/2026 7:55:01 PM EDT
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And juror #5 was actually three P320s in a trench coat.
8/14/2026 7:59:15 PM EDT
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Almost certainly never fired a gun in their life. Courts love to exclude jurors who have any knowledge at all about the subject matter of the case.

A dumb jury is a more malleable jury.
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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.


Almost certainly never fired a gun in their life. Courts love to exclude jurors who have any knowledge at all about the subject matter of the case.

A dumb jury is a more malleable jury.


Part of the problem is that people who claim or admit having background knowledge frequently have a very little bit of knowledge and a lot of opinions.

Put another way, for every MrHiggs there are 87 CapnRobs.

No lawyer wants to try to break through that or risk unpredictable forms of retardation spreading through the jury room.

I didn't watch the video and don't care enough to do so. I'm just curious about how many P320 owners carry them chambered in AIWB.
8/14/2026 8:05:01 PM EDT
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It doesnt need to be a defect if its a shitty design.

8/14/2026 8:16:15 PM EDT
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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.
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Sig lawyers can easily manipulate jury members who never even shot or held a gun. Not sure why the OP sees this as a win for the P320.

Not putting that in my pants.

8/14/2026 8:19:22 PM EDT
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A jury also found OJ not guilty.

The P320 is a cheap piece of shit.
8/14/2026 8:23:50 PM EDT
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That was me. Too many good options from too many reputable mfr’s to risk a possible life changing incident. Sold all my -320s and not looking back.
8/14/2026 8:25:15 PM EDT
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Until someone produces an actual mechanical problem with the trigger module of the P320, they will probably continue to win in court.
8/14/2026 8:46:16 PM EDT
[#22]
Some engineers used big words in front of people unable to figure out how to get out of jury duty.

Okey dokey.
8/14/2026 8:58:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Something like 3.4 million sig 320 / M17 delivered worldwide.

I haven’t seen all the videos out there, but
Of the ones I have seen most have been in a cheap or poor choice holster for any firearm that has a light trigger.

The on going rambling and hate reminds me of the early issues with the M9 slides cracking and yet Beretta distributed +3 million units.

I do have a P320 and carry it most days over the past 10 years, it’s been nothing but great for me and it has never done anything it wasn’t ment to do.

Haters going to hate
8/14/2026 9:04:45 PM EDT
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Once I realized that there's a huge machine after the gun industry as well as anyone and anything even remotely connected to it I became a lot more skeptical about stuff like this. The big Remington trigger lawsuit everyone remembered was total bullshit but it's easy to turn the general public against evil guns.
8/14/2026 9:05:05 PM EDT
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See, I’m actually rather surprised. I would think that uneducated jurors would side with feelings and get lost with technical stuff. And I think most people are more likely to side against companies these days. People are more than happy to hand down a big payday. Especially against an evil gun company??

So if they convinced a jury, that says a fair amount. Nothing decisive, because civil cases are simply the preponderance of evidence, or for laypeople “which side makes more sense.”
8/14/2026 9:09:21 PM EDT
[#26]
This does not change my opinion of striker fired sig pistols. I will continue not being a fan.
8/15/2026 6:45:00 AM EDT
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And that’s a perfectly logical approach to the situation. There is no lack of alternatives. Just buy something else.

But for some reason, others feel the need to just spout off BS, which threatens a company that generally has great products (except for the .22s and the now defunct 556 line), and has been one of the few innovators in the field over the past couple of decades.

The left is looking for any reason to destroy the firearm industry and is eating our own just serves their cause. Go ahead and buy something else, but bashing SIG with falsehoods doesn’t help us one bit. Call them out on legit stuff, sure. Like the original drop issue and the double click. But these are not repeatable. Place the blame where it belongs: poor handling skills and don’t absolve the end user of responsibility. They need to learn from their mistakes instead of believing they were “innocent victims” of some inanimate object possessed by gremlins.
8/15/2026 7:27:05 AM EDT
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Sig lawyers can easily manipulate jury members who never even shot or held a gun. Not sure why the OP sees this as a win for the P320.

Not putting that in my pants.

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Whether there is an issue or not it is some very slick lawyers explaining the safety features to (probably) at least some jurors who never fired a gun in their lives.


Sig lawyers can easily manipulate jury members who never even shot or held a gun. Not sure why the OP sees this as a win for the P320.

Not putting that in my pants.



For the record, I did not see this as a convincing win for the P320.   I've seen enough video that seems to make me think something sketchy is going on.   I just saw no one else had posted this story yet and we're all gun guys so I thought it's an interesting event.
8/15/2026 8:18:52 AM EDT
[#29]
This is the 109th GD 320 thread since it Ended Today.
8/15/2026 8:28:19 AM EDT
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Even if by some miracle the SIG P320 isn't without defect, Sig showing what a bunch of assholes they really are
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I am no SigFanboy but I do own a 320.  
What did sig do to “show what assholes they really are”?
8/15/2026 8:30:12 AM EDT
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Would you really trust a jury on a case like that? The lawyers from Sig did a better job at defending their product.

At the end of the day, would you carry one?
For me; Nope. Too many other better options.
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courts say one thing
influencers say another

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