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12/10/2016 12:39:39 AM EDT
Are there Colt rifles or lowers out there being sold that aren't made by Colt? If so, what models are they?  Are the expanse models fake?
12/10/2016 12:41:31 AM EDT
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Someone was selling Colt trademarked lowers that were stripped and not made in Hartsford. They had the colt snake on them if I recall, but no pony
12/10/2016 12:41:50 AM EDT
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Are there Colt rifles or lowers out there being sold that aren't made by Colt? If so, what models are they?  Are the expanse models fake?
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The Colt 6900 was made by Anderson for Colt. The Colt 22's are Umarex. There are retro rewelds out there also.
12/10/2016 1:07:57 AM EDT
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There were counterfeit Colt lowers selling in Europe a couple years ago. There are Colt-licensed lowers not actually made by Colt, but marked as Colt, here in the US that have been made by at least two manufacturers - maybe Anderson and some outfit in Texas.
12/10/2016 3:22:30 AM EDT
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Colt has licensed an "assembler" to assemble Colt "custom AR15's.
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
They are out of Breckenridge, Texas.

As far as the Colt Expanse, I have read that Anderson made one model of it in 2013 under contract with Colt using Colt/Anderson parts.
I have also read that the markings on that model of the Colt Expanse looked like Anderson markings (the way the marking is).

What I have read about the new Colt Expanse guns is that they are made with Colt parts assembled by the same guys in Breckenridge, Texas.

When you buy the Colt Expanse (CE1000) you don't get (again, from what I have read) a chrome lined barrel, a dust cover, a forward assist, a rear sight, a carry handle and the plastic parts look "different".
You do get a lightweight hammer.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?180099-Picked-up-a-Colt-Expanse-M4-(CE1000)-today

I understand that the Colt Expanse (CE2000) has the dust cover and forward assist.
12/10/2016 8:39:54 AM EDT
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Colt has licensed an "assembler" to assemble Colt "custom AR15's.
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
They are out of Breckenridge, Texas.

As far as the Colt Expanse, I have read that Anderson made one model of it in 2013 under contract with Colt using Colt/Anderson parts.
I have also read that the markings on that model of the Colt Expanse looked like Anderson markings (the way the marking is).

What I have read about the new Colt Expanse guns is that they are made with Colt parts assembled by the same guys in Breckenridge, Texas.

When you buy the Colt Expanse (CE1000) you don't get (again, from what I have read) a chrome lined barrel, a dust cover, a forward assist, a rear sight, a carry handle and the plastic parts look "different".
You do get a lightweight hammer.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?180099-Picked-up-a-Colt-Expanse-M4-(CE1000)-today

I understand that the Colt Expanse (CE2000) has the dust cover and forward assist.
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But the lower receivers are real colt receivers, rather than being made under license on the expanse rifles?
12/10/2016 9:07:11 AM EDT
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The Expanse models are made by Bold Ideas in Breckenridge, TX which is owned by Colt and operated as Bold Ideas/Colt Competition.  So those are technically Colt even if not made and assembled in Hartford.
12/10/2016 3:14:51 PM EDT
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The Expanse models are made by Bold Ideas in Breckenridge, TX which is owned by Colt and operated as Bold Ideas/Colt Competition.  So those are technically Colt even if not made and assembled in Hartford.
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Bold Ideas/Colt Competition is not owned by Colt.
http://www.guns.com/2013/04/09/colt-company-leaves-oregon-puts-down-texas-roots/

Colt Company Leaves Oregon, Puts Down Texas Roots
4/09/13 | by Max Slowik

Bold Ideas, the company that licenses and manufactures Colt Competition rifles, is pulling up stakes in and relocating from Canby, Oregon to the North Texas town of Breckenridge.
12/10/2016 6:44:26 PM EDT
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Bold Ideas/Colt Competition is not owned by Colt.
http://www.guns.com/2013/04/09/colt-company-leaves-oregon-puts-down-texas-roots/

Colt Company Leaves Oregon, Puts Down Texas Roots
4/09/13 | by Max Slowik

Bold Ideas, the company that licenses and manufactures Colt Competition rifles, is pulling up stakes in and relocating from Canby, Oregon to the North Texas town of Breckenridge.
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So how can you tell if you're getting a licensed Colt or an authentic Colt if not buying NIB?

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