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1/16/2016 10:54:53 PM EDT
Items were posted for sale on our EE.  I was the first person to post on the sellers ad. My post said I'll take it to the said items I wanted.
A few hours go buy and I get an email from the seller saying that they're already sold.  Do I have a valid bitch here? Is that worthy of negative feedback?
1/16/2016 10:56:25 PM EDT
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You do not have a valid bitch or justification for negative feedback
1/16/2016 10:57:26 PM EDT
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Did the posting say the first "I'll take it", gets it?  If so, then I'd be a bit miffed myself.
1/16/2016 10:58:46 PM EDT
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If you commit to purchase something here you post "I'll take xyz items" correct?
1/16/2016 10:58:51 PM EDT
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Damn that would be a weasely thing to give negative feedback over.
1/16/2016 10:59:47 PM EDT
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it does not say that.
1/16/2016 11:00:27 PM EDT
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Could have been IM''ed, emailed first or just plain didn't like you. Tough shit.
1/16/2016 11:01:50 PM EDT
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IMO yes.
1/16/2016 11:02:14 PM EDT
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No you don't have a valid bitch. Somebody may have sent a PM, email, or the sale could have been conducted at an alternate site.

He could also just plain not sell it to you if he doesn't want to, it is his item.

The whole "I'll take it" shit that is done on the EE here is stupid.
1/16/2016 11:02:16 PM EDT
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Did the posting say the first "I'll take it", gets it?  If so, then I'd be a bit miffed myself.

it does not say that.


I guess it's a moot issue, seeing as how the big man already answered the question.
1/16/2016 11:03:09 PM EDT
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I could just see this as opening the door to me telling a seller that I'll pay $5 more than the guy who said he'd take it so I could get the items instead of him.  I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong and in this case if you guys feel i'm in the wrong than I'll quit strewing about it. Thanks everyone.
1/16/2016 11:04:31 PM EDT
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I could just see this as opening the door to me telling a seller that I'll pay $5 more than the guy who said he'd take it so I could get the items instead of him.  I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong and in this case if you guys feel i'm in the wrong than I'll quit strewing about it. Thanks everyone.
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Lol, even if this happened, he is not obligated to sell it to you. Just because you say you want it does not force him to sell it to you.
1/16/2016 11:04:41 PM EDT
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Seems someone beat you to the IM or email. Simple as that.
A lot can happen in 20 minutes.
1/16/2016 11:06:26 PM EDT
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1/16/2016 11:06:55 PM EDT
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1/16/2016 11:07:41 PM EDT
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I could just see this as opening the door to me telling a seller that I'll pay $5 more than the guy who said he'd take it so I could get the items instead of him.  I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong and in this case if you guys feel i'm in the wrong than I'll quit strewing about it. Thanks everyone.
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The flip side would be we're only allowed to list items on this website and not any others at the same time, and can only sell to people able to post in the thread?



 
1/16/2016 11:08:35 PM EDT
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Wouldn't it be easier if we did have an I'll take it policy? Then everyone would know its spoken for?
1/16/2016 11:09:18 PM EDT
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It also looks like someone posted for feedback without an initial posting before it.  That leads me to believe that they IM'd or emailed the seller to make the buy before you posted the "I'll take it."

1/16/2016 11:09:44 PM EDT
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If you commit to purchase something here you post "I'll take xyz items" correct?


The seller can sell to whoever they want to.  On the EE, there is no rule that says the first person who says "I'll take it" gets the item.  The person who gets the sale is whoever the seller agrees to sell to.
1/16/2016 11:10:21 PM EDT
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A post in the ad doesn't get it first unless the ad states a post in the ad gets it first.

A deal was not struck with you, therefore you have no valid bitch, no ground for negative feeback, and need to get over it.
1/16/2016 11:11:03 PM EDT
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Nothing to get wound-up about.



You don't know what -prior- back-channel communication may have taken place.


1/16/2016 11:11:22 PM EDT
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I guess it's good to know that I can pick and choose who I want to sell my items to no matter what is posted or emailed when I'm the seller. Lesson learned
1/16/2016 11:11:24 PM EDT
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What if I say I'll buy your gun but you're scared to ship a gun to NY?
Or what if some guy with one post says he wants it then I do? Whatever my faults you know I'll pay up, but one post count guy might not.



 



Seller's choice on who he sells to.
1/16/2016 11:12:28 PM EDT
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This.

With IM's, Email, etc - there are many ways for a deal to be completed before the thread is updated.

1/16/2016 11:14:05 PM EDT
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I'm having a hard time understanding what's wrong with this
1/16/2016 11:14:42 PM EDT
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Exactly, first in line means shit. The seller gets to chose who he sells it to. If buyer 1 requires sending a payment and shipping it to him and buyer 2 is local and pays cash, buyer 2 is the first I will respond to.
1/16/2016 11:15:06 PM EDT
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It also looks like someone posted for feedback without an initial posting before it.  That leads me to believe that they IM'd or emailed the seller to make the buy before you posted the "I'll take it."

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How can you guys see this stuff? You're good! Ok my crying session is done. No harm no foul.  Thanks again everyone.
1/16/2016 11:16:08 PM EDT
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Incorrect.  Until the seller confirms the two of you have a deal there is no deal.  Nor is the seller required to sell it to the first person who responds.
1/16/2016 11:17:02 PM EDT
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The seller can sell to whoever they want to.  On the EE, there is no rule that says the first person who says "I'll take it" gets the item.  The person who gets the sale is whoever the seller agrees to sell to.
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The seller can sell to whoever they want to.  On the EE, there is no rule that says the first person who says "I'll take it" gets the item.  The person who gets the sale is whoever the seller agrees to sell to.



you mean free market, capitalism, freedom ??

amazing.
1/16/2016 11:20:29 PM EDT
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There's some people on here I wouldn't sell a turkey baster full of water to if their guts were on fire...  so yeah, it's a good thing.  
1/16/2016 11:20:56 PM EDT
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With IM's, Email, etc - there are many ways for a deal to be completed before the thread is updated.



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With IM's, Email, etc - there are many ways for a deal to be completed before the thread is updated.



We'd just remove negative feedback for that

 
1/16/2016 11:21:19 PM EDT
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Hell yeah I don't want to sell to some assbag with shitty feedback just because they were the first to post in my sale thread or ship to a ban state.



 
1/16/2016 11:24:24 PM EDT
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What if I say I'll buy your gun but you're scared to ship a gun to NY?Or what if some guy with one post says he wants it then I do? Whatever my faults you know I'll pay up, but one post count guy might not.
 

Seller's choice on who he sells to.

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Wouldn't it be easier if we did have an I'll take it policy? Then everyone would know its spoken for?
What if I say I'll buy your gun but you're scared to ship a gun to NY?Or what if some guy with one post says he wants it then I do? Whatever my faults you know I'll pay up, but one post count guy might not.
 

Seller's choice on who he sells to.



Exactly. Non paying member with 10 posts vs team member with +50 feedback. Guess which one I'm selling to?
1/16/2016 11:24:35 PM EDT
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If we were required to sell to the first person who offered to buy, that wouldn't exactly give the seller a chance to protect themselves by checking feedback before agreeing to sell to someone.
1/16/2016 11:25:24 PM EDT
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The EE is pretty damn simple.

A deal is made when both parties agree to the terms.

When you posted an I'll take it...you posted your side of the terms.  He never accepted your offer for taking his items.  

If you do not withdraw your offer to take the items before the seller agrees to your offer, a deal is made.  If either party backs out once a deal is made, that person is a welch, and can be banned if they do not make good on the deal.

In your hypothetical $5 more example:
if the seller made a deal with the previous "buyer" for $50,
You messaged and offered $55.  If the seller then backed out of the original agreed to $50 deal, he would be in trouble

If he never agreed to sell it to the guy that made the $50 offer and you offered $55, he could sell it to you or him.
1/16/2016 11:25:41 PM EDT
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Until BOTH the buyer and seller agree to a sale it isn't an EE violation for either party to back out. As a seller I hardly check responses to my ads anyways. I respond to IM and email much faster than a thread posting.

You can complain all you want but at the end of the day you didn't spend any money so you have no room to complain.
1/16/2016 11:28:52 PM EDT
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The EE is pretty damn simple.

A deal is made when both parties agree to the terms.

When you posted an I'll take it...you posted your side of the terms.  He never accepted your offer for taking his items.  

If you do not withdraw your offer to take the items before the seller agrees to your off, a deal is made.  If either party backs out once a deal is made, that person is a welch, and can be banned if they do not make good on the deal.

In your hypothetical $5 more example:
if the seller made a deal with the previous "buyer" for $50,
You messaged and offered $55.  If the seller then backed out of the original agreed to $50 deal, he would be in trouble

If he never agreed to sell it to the guy that made the $50 offer and you offered $55, he could sell it to you or him.
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Not to nitpick but apparently this is still against EE rules. You are not "allowed" to accept offers above your asking price (trades notwithstanding)

I personally don't agree with the rule but I do abide by it. The reason I have been told is to prevent auction type situations or unscrupulous sellers up-bidding their items.
1/16/2016 11:31:49 PM EDT
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I've found not using the EE avoids these issues altogether.
1/16/2016 11:36:56 PM EDT
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Welcome to America :-)
1/16/2016 11:39:05 PM EDT
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If you commit to purchase something here you post "I'll take xyz items" correct?
You asked a question & got an answer...now move on.

 



Just because it wasn't the one you wanted to hear, doesn't mean you should ask again.




JMHO
1/16/2016 11:40:40 PM EDT
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You have a feedback score of 8.
1/16/2016 11:46:07 PM EDT
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I've found not using the EE avoids these issues altogether.




You have a feedback score of 8.
Old score.  Been two years (I think) since I've used it.

 
1/16/2016 11:56:11 PM EDT
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I've found not using the EE avoids these issues altogether.


You have a feedback score of 8.
Old score.  Been two years (I think) since I've used it.  



Yeah, I never use it either.  












1/17/2016 12:16:41 AM EDT
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IM is the fastest way to tell a seller you want it. IM's pop up the next time you refresh the site. Most guys aren't sitting there constantly refreshing their for sale ad
1/17/2016 12:22:49 AM EDT
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Happen to me a couple of times.
1/17/2016 12:25:02 AM EDT
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Could have been IM''ed, emailed first or just plain didn't like you. Tough shit.






 
1/17/2016 12:28:04 AM EDT
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Hell no!
1/17/2016 12:33:39 AM EDT
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I can honestly say, I've bought dozens of things off the EE and ALWAYS message first. I'll usually send an email and an IM just because some people surf here often, and some people have push emails.  I usually only post on the ad once the deal is confirmed to let others know I already bought it.  So I don't think you can really bitch about it. Plus unless you donate, it's a pain in the butt to find a thread b/c this forum gets so much movement.

Also, I currently had an item listed on 3 different websites, and I was messaged on 2 of the sites. I sold it to the first guy that agreed to PAY for it. Other guy sent me a lower offer.

I also messaged a guy for another item on my local forum, saying I would buy the item, but I'm out of town on training for a few days. He sold it to someone else that he can meet with sooner. I Can't expect him to hold it for me.
1/17/2016 1:06:48 AM EDT
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Yeah, I never use it either.  












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You have a feedback score of 8.
Old score.  Been two years (I think) since I've used it.  



Yeah, I never use it either.  













What's an EE?

Is that like a Dutch rudder?
1/17/2016 1:20:06 AM EDT
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Just ask Ghetto.

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