Posted: 5/22/2003 5:06:27 AM EDT
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My wife's sister called yesterday with bad news. Their 4 year old Cocker, Bailey, drowned in their pool after ingesting a shit-load of chocolate. Apparently, she got into a kitchen cabinet and downed about a pound of baker's-chocolate while the kids were at home alone with her. Bailey scratched to go outside, so they let her out in the fenced-in backyard. When my sister-in-law got home they couldn't find her, but she was later discovered underneath the solar cover on their pool. [:(] The one thing the kids could tell us is that the dog exhibited strange behavior prior to going outside. Can anyone explain the physiological affects that chocolate has on dogs? |
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My gf (Who is a dog-person) tells me that if a dog ingests chocolate, it will die. I don't have the heart to tell her that her dog ate a HUGE hershey kiss at christmas, with no side effects other than a sugar-high... Sorry, no data. I doubt chocolate makes dogs chemically want to climb under pool covers... |
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Quoted: My gf (Who is a dog-person) tells me that if a dog ingests chocolate, it will die. I don't have the heart to tell her that her dog ate a HUGE hershey kiss at christmas, with no side effects other than a sugar-high... Sorry, no data. I doubt chocolate makes dogs chemically want to climb under pool covers... |
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Quoted: Quoted: My gf (Who is a dog-person) tells me that if a dog ingests chocolate, it will die. I don't have the heart to tell her that her dog ate a HUGE hershey kiss at christmas, with no side effects other than a sugar-high... Sorry, no data. I doubt chocolate makes dogs chemically want to climb under pool covers... But why chocolate? Bakers or otherwise. |
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Dear Yahoo!: Why is chocolate poisonous to dogs but not to humans? John Chicago, Illinois Dear John: We started with a Yahoo! search by typing in the three key words -- dog, chocolate, and poison. After scanning the results, we clicked on an article titled, "Household Items That Can Poison Dogs." The article explains that chocolate contains theobromine, an alkaloid that dogs can't metabolize quickly. If a dog ingests a large amount of chocolate, the theobromine can build up and reach a toxic level of concentration, leading to cardiac arrest. Different types of chocolate are more harmful than others, and the effects will vary, depending upon the size and weight of the dog. However, it is potentially lethal. If you know your dog has ingested chocolate (signs of chocolate poisoning include vomiting, diarrhea, excessive urination, a quick heart rate, and rapid breathing) take him to a vet immediately. The rest of the article reviews some of the other household items that can cause harm to your fuzzy friend. For instance, did you know common plants such as azaleas, rhododendron, and foxglove can all cause heart failure if ingested? Some other articles dog owners should check out include "Common Household Items Hazardous to Your Dog " from Pet Warehouse, and "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs," by veterinarian Kevin Fitzgerald. But why isn't theobromine poisonous to humans? To answer that question, we tried a Yahoo! search on "theobromine," which led us to an article from About.com. There, we learned that humans can break down and excrete theobromine much more efficiently than dogs, rendering it effectively harmless. Just remember: Chocolate's a tasty treat for humans, but it can be fatal to our four-legged friends |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My gf (Who is a dog-person) tells me that if a dog ingests chocolate, it will die. I don't have the heart to tell her that her dog ate a HUGE hershey kiss at christmas, with no side effects other than a sugar-high... Sorry, no data. I doubt chocolate makes dogs chemically want to climb under pool covers... But why chocolate? Bakers or otherwise. |
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The deal's this: chocolade will also kill a human when eaten in sufficient amounts, only we have a reflex to gag on it when a certain level is reached, which dogs don't have. They'd eat all they could find and pretty much OD on the drugs contained in chocolade. And speaking of which, how come American chocolade tastes like wet sawdust rolled in shit, whereas Swiss, Belgian and German chocolade cause a "high" similar to cannabis, except for the whooping and coughing? |
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And speaking of which, how come American chocolade tastes like wet sawdust rolled in shit, whereas Swiss, Belgian and German chocolade cause a "high" similar to cannabis, except for the whooping and coughing? Now all we need to do is find out how to make chocolate cannabis! [smoke] [thinking] [party] Later, |
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The amount of chocolate needed to harm a dog varies with the size of the dog. A few ounces for a small dog and over a pound for large dogs. you will hear all kinds of bull about chocolate candy harming dogs it is just simply untrue, it has to be bakers chocolate [b]That is just flat wrong[/b] any type of chocolate can harm/kill a dog. Bakers chocolate is more dangerous because it is more concentrated/stronger than milk chocolate. A dog would have to eat about twice as much milk chocolate as baker chocolate to get the same effect but both will kill. |
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Quoted: And speaking of which, how come American chocolade tastes like wet sawdust rolled in shit, whereas Swiss, Belgian and German chocolade cause a "high" similar to cannabis, except for the whooping and coughing? Now all we need to do is find out how to make chocolate cannabis! [smoke] [thinking] [party] Later, [Homer]Mmmmmmmmmmm, Hash Brownies{/Homer] |
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Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce. Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts. At our practice, a 20-pound dachshund showed serious signs of poisoning after eating 3/4 of a pound of milk chocolate and another 22-pound dog died after eating two pounds of baking chocolate. Still going to give chocolate bars to your hunting dogs? Try "Paydays" - it's a hoot watching the dog trying to clean the sticky peanuts off the top of their mouths. |
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Quoted: The amount of chocolate needed to harm a dog varies with the size of the dog. A few ounces for a small dog and over a pound for large dogs. you will hear all kinds of bull about chocolate candy harming dogs it is just simply untrue, it has to be bakers chocolate [b]That is just flat wrong[/b] any type of chocolate can harm/kill a dog. Bakers chocolate is more dangerous because it is more concentrated/stronger than milk chocolate. A dog would have to eat about twice as much milk chocolate as baker chocolate to get the same effect but both will kill. |
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Gents, behaive or I'll send both of you to your rooms and feed your dogs chocolate. The figures from the American Vet Association are listed in my post above. I really don't give a flying care what you feed your dogs, if you wear a seat belt while driving, smoke while reloading ammo, wear ear and eye protection while shooting, if you know your target and what lies beyond, or obey the local helmet laws. You can lead a horse ('s ass) to water but you can't make him drink. There are a number of people who due to psychiatric disorders refuse to follow good sense. [do/due!] |
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[img]http://206.105.185.18/ar15/killdog.gif[/img] I made a chart in case anyone cares, I would assume its just easier for most people to not poison their dogs at all, than to regulate it. The min represents the minimum weight in ounces of a particular chocolate it may take to kill a dog of the specific weight, and the max represents the maximum weight in ounces that would probably kill any dog of that weight. And it's not like reloading, so don't load your dog 10% under max and go from there. [:|] |
| I have an 8.5lb poodle that gets chocolate. Never straight chocolate, but chocolate cake, chocolate chip cookies, stuff like that. She has never had any ill effects. I have heard that chocolate causes severe dehydration in large amounts. Maybe it went to the pool to quench its thirst and fell in and got trapped. |
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Back about a dozen years ago I took my dog, a Brittnay, hiking in the mountians near wear I live. I brought along some dehydrated food and had planned to make it to a place called "Sunset Point" overlooking the Hudson River to setup camp for the night but took longer to get there than I planned so I pitched my tent and went looking for the stream I saw on the map as I was alomst out of the water needed to make dinner. As it was late I didn't have much time to search and as it happens the stream shown on the map was dry. So I did not have enough water for dinner. In my pack a had a pound bag of M&M's and me and my dog proceeded to eat about half of it before going to bed. From that moment on if I so much as touched an M&M my dog would begin to drool! She LOVED them! It's more than two years since I had to put her down and it still hurts! Later, |
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Quoted: The deal's this: chocolade will also kill a human when eaten in sufficient amounts, only we have a reflex to gag on it when a certain level is reached, which dogs don't have. They'd eat all they could find and pretty much OD on the drugs contained in chocolade. And speaking of which, how come American chocolade tastes like wet sawdust rolled in shit, whereas Swiss, Belgian and German chocolade cause a "high" similar to cannabis, except for the whooping and coughing? Chocolate produces andamanides in the brain (endogenous cannabinoids - natural cannabinoids) that are also produced by using marijuana. |
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Quoted: Back about a dozen years ago I took my dog, a Brittnay, hiking in the mountians near wear I live. I brought along some dehydrated food and had planned to make it to a place called "Sunset Point" overlooking the Hudson River to setup camp for the night but took longer to get there than I planned so I pitched my tent and went looking for the stream I saw on the map as I was alomst out of the water needed to make dinner. As it was late I didn't have much time to search and as it happens the stream shown on the map was dry. So I did not have enough water for dinner. In my pack a had a pound bag of M&M's and me and my dog proceeded to eat about half of it before going to bed. From that moment on if I so much as touched an M&M my dog would begin to drool! She LOVED them! It's more than two years since I had to put her down and it still hurts! Later, |