Posted: 12/9/2005 4:55:26 PM EDT
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Since its a slow Friday night, how about a little pick your weapons thread. Scenario: Provide a small, well rounded arsenal for a family of two, husband and wife of semi serious plinkers. Not total gun freaks, but beyond your typical buy one gun and a box of ammo and put it in the safe to never see it the rest of your life folks. Requriements: 2-3 Pistols 2 SHTF Carbines/Rifles 1 Long Range Platform (hunting, sniping) 1 Shotgun for hunting and HD. Suitable accessories and ammo needed Restrictions: Pistols must all be of the same model and make Carbines must be of the same model and make Pistols and Carbines must be suitable for use by a small woman Pistols must be suitable for carry One option with only three calibers One option with four calibers Present your selections with total prices. It would be nice if you did a high, medium and low price range. |
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2 Glock 17 or 19 on the pistols, Ready supply of ammo Cheap Mags easy to use and reliable as hell. $1000 2 Bushmaster Ar 15 rifles cheap mags ammo availability, easy to use. $2000 Long range rifle Tikka T-3 in .308 with a Zeis Conquest Scope. $2000 Shotgun not really opinionated but my Mossberg 590 has served me well. $400 Accessories Plenty of mags and ammo for each weapon, Aimpoint on one AR ACog on the other. Plenty of flashlights |
Too many rules. I'll play it how I'd do it if I were doing it for real.
3- SIG 226 9mm
1- .308 MBR - Either M1a or FAL with EOTech holosight 1- 5.56mm M4gery flattop with EOTech and BUIS
.308 bolt rifle with good glass- dunno which one now, I haven't really looked at them yet.
Scattergun Technologies modified Remington 870
Night vision monocular/weaponsight. Sure-Fire weaponlights and hand helds. Solidly built clothing and gear- Blackhawk or better. Secure comms for all team members. 1 complete combat loadout of magazines and ammo per person, per weapon and one backup on stripper clips. Batteries for holosights and flashlights. Highest quality ammo possible - first choice, Hornady TAP for all. Second choice: Milsurp .308 for MBR, Mk262 mod 1 for M4gery, Federal NATO 9mm for SIGs, assortment of shot and slugs for shotgun, and quality match/hunting ammo for the bolt gun. Prices... ugh. 
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What kind of terrain are you in? Hilly and forested or flat/marshy? Obviously hot most of the year no snow... What is the maximum distance you'd expect for a rifle kill, pistol kill or a shotgun kill? What is the game and how big? Being in MS is fishing or farming a realistic survival option? Low price I'd go with 2 exc. condition SKS, 2 used Ruger 45 autos, an 8mm Mauser, and an 870 with an extended magazine. Mid price I'd go with 2 16" budget ARs, 2 Glock 21s, a Garand and an 870 Marine Magnum. High price I'd go 2 AR10s, 3 Glock 21s, a Remy 700 in 308 and an 870 Marine Magnum. |
A 10/22 and a .38, that's all.  Mel Tappan published a book back in the late 1970's or early 1980's called "Survival Guns" -- a little dated, but some good discussions and things to think about throughout -- which did this at the end. I particularly liked Jeff Cooper's minimal arsenal. He pointed out that the guns should be common types and in common calibers, so that ammunition and spare parts availability would not be a big problem. I was particularly struck by his addition of a pair of 7.62x39 rifles, selected in case the Soviets or their proxies invaded so that scavenging ammunition from the enemy would be a possibility. I'd go with a pair of AR-15's in .223, a scoped Remington 700 in .308, a Remington 11-87 in 12ga, a pair of 9mm Glocks, and optionally a S&W 686 or 429. If you really insist on restricting the number of ammunition types, you can either downgrade the 700 to a .223 (IMHO unwise since it's a significantly less powerful round) or get AR-10's (also unwise, IMHO, due to reliability and parts availability issues). I'm not up on current prices. From what I remember, I think the above could be put together for under $4000 -- $700 each for the AR's, $800 for the PSS, $500 for the 11-87, $400 each for the Glocks, and $400 for the S&W. Add about $400 for spare parts and mags. Oh -- I'd also add a .22LR of some sort, for cheap practice and small game hunting. Unfortunately, based on the "common" criterion, that would probably mean a R*g*r 10/22. |
