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12/3/2010 1:15:47 PM EDT
I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?



12/3/2010 1:41:49 PM EDT
[#1]
This is true, but consider also your job prospects in the civilian world, in case your plan A doesn't work out.
12/3/2010 1:51:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Get something useful and that will challenge you.
12/3/2010 1:53:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Get an accounting, math or engineering degree, or something in the physical sciences.

Unless writing prose is in your future, numbers make the world go round, not fancy sentences.
12/3/2010 1:55:12 PM EDT
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It makes no difference, I have friends with art and history degrees that are in sales. I have friends with business degrees who are teachers. Just get your degree. It doesn't matter unless it's a technical degree or something like accounting or finance and that's what you want to do. I also have a friend with a communications degree who is a po po. I have an accounting degree, obtained it before it became a masters program. I've been in management and sales.
12/3/2010 1:56:30 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?


The AF cares.  Good luck if you don't have a technical or engineering type degree.



 
12/3/2010 1:58:23 PM EDT
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Get an accounting, math or engineering degree, or something in the physical sciences.

Unless writing prose is in your future, numbers make the world go round, not fancy sentences.




Offered 2 scholarships for writing................went with accounting.
12/3/2010 1:59:55 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?





Do you only plan to go into LE and the .mil for the rest of your life?
12/3/2010 2:00:39 PM EDT
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It makes no difference, I have friends with art and history degrees that are in sales. I have friends with business degrees who are teachers. Just get your degree. It doesn't matter unless it's a technical degree or something like accounting or finance and that's what you want to do. I also have a friend with a communications degree who is a po po


Maybe a few years ago it didn't matter, as long as you had some sort of degree.  Nowadays there are a ton of qualified people with degrees in their field that are looking for jobs.  I don't see a company saying "Hey, lets hire the guy with a art history degree to be our salesman because he has a degree in something and the other guy just had 15 years of experience in sales."
12/3/2010 2:02:10 PM EDT
[#9]
get some sort of skill based degree.

accounting, engineering, medical etc. unless you know with certainty that you want a liberal arts degree because you are going into something thats liberal arts based (teaching?).

a liberal arts degree is better than no degree. but not much better. a skills based degree, if you use it to get in to something and keep your skills up to date will give you a much better change at not suffering because you are out of work in times like these.
12/3/2010 2:08:56 PM EDT
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Get an accounting, math or engineering degree, or something in the physical sciences.

Unless writing prose is in your future, numbers make the world go round, not fancy sentences.


The ability to communicate effectively is greatly valued by employers worldwide.

Anyway, most holders of medical, engineering and mathematics degrees I have met, who were not graduates of Universities with rigorous academic core requirements, are largely ignorant of history, politics and literature. There are exceptions for those who are interested in such things and pursue them on their own.


12/3/2010 2:09:59 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?




Do you only plan to go into LE and the .mil for the rest of your life?


On the other hand, if you plan on going to the O side of the house for awhile(company command time), I'd imagine perspective employers would be much more interested in your experiences than your major.



"I see here at the age of 28 you led a group of 100+ men with 100+million dollars of equipment.  Prior to that you were your battalion's logistics officer organizing a multi-million dollar budget and facilitating transporting hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment and hundreds of people across the globe.  Ohh, but you majored in history and minored in business...we were looking for a business major..."



 
12/3/2010 2:10:01 PM EDT
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It makes no difference, I have friends with art and history degrees that are in sales. I have friends with business degrees who are teachers. Just get your degree. It doesn't matter unless it's a technical degree or something like accounting or finance and that's what you want to do. I also have a friend with a communications degree who is a po po


Maybe a few years ago it didn't matter, as long as you had some sort of degree.  Nowadays there are a ton of qualified people with degrees in their field that are looking for jobs.  I don't see a company saying "Hey, lets hire the guy with a art history degree to be our salesman because he has a degree in something and the other guy just had 15 years of experience in sales."


They are likely going to hire the new guy because they can screw him on the salary. The 15 year vet is going to want more money.

12/3/2010 2:21:19 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?





Do you only plan to go into LE and the .mil for the rest of your life?

On the other hand, if you plan on going to the O side of the house for awhile(company command time), I'd imagine perspective employers would be much more interested in your experiences than your major.

"I see here at the age of 28 you led a group of 100+ men with 100+million dollars of equipment.  Prior to that you were your battalion's logistics officer organizing a multi-million dollar budget and facilitating transporting hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment and hundreds of people across the globe.  Ohh, but you majored in history and minored in business...we were looking for a business major..."
 


True and on the other hand of that, what if you get hurt/disabled and aren't very far along in your training/career?  You now have nothing to really fall back on except a History degree....
12/3/2010 2:25:01 PM EDT
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It makes no difference, I have friends with art and history degrees that are in sales. I have friends with business degrees who are teachers. Just get your degree. It doesn't matter unless it's a technical degree or something like accounting or finance and that's what you want to do. I also have a friend with a communications degree who is a po po


Maybe a few years ago it didn't matter, as long as you had some sort of degree.  Nowadays there are a ton of qualified people with degrees in their field that are looking for jobs.  I don't see a company saying "Hey, lets hire the guy with a art history degree to be our salesman because he has a degree in something and the other guy just had 15 years of experience in sales."


They are likely going to hire the new guy because they can screw him on the salary. The 15 year vet is going to want more money.



Those greedy assholes.
12/3/2010 2:26:57 PM EDT
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No need to make moral judgements, it is what it is.
12/3/2010 2:31:45 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?





You need to look at the minimum hiring requirements for depts you plan on applying to.

I've taken civil service exams that required a min of an associates in Criminal Justice or a police officer certification (been thru the academy).
12/3/2010 2:34:49 PM EDT
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No need to make moral judgements, it is what it is.


It was a joke.
12/3/2010 2:36:49 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. From what I understand the military and law enforcement don't care what your major is in, is this true?





You need to look at the minimum hiring requirements for depts you plan on applying to.

I've taken civil service exams that required a min of an associates in Criminal Justice or a police officer certification (been thru the academy).


I have done so. I just checked with every major police department which does require degrees they all require associates in anything, which I do have, and one requires a bachelors in anything. They specifically state that they do not care what its any, any degree will help as a police officer, according to them. I also plan to obtain some trades namely my cdl, heavy equipment operator, welding, cnc machining, and heavy diesel mechanics. I have pretty good aptitude in these areas and I namely want to get them to enrich myself, I don't care if they apply to jobs or not. Money, isn't really the biggest thing in my life I would rather do something that I love to do.
12/3/2010 2:37:55 PM EDT
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This is true, but consider also your job prospects in the civilian world, in case your plan A doesn't work out.


If I obtain the trades and history/business degree, I can always teach high school or elementary level history/social studies, if I some how get hurt in my line of work. I also forgot to add my other line of interest, working for the rail road just requires a BA in anything and they will teach you what you need to learn. If I obtain the trades I have enough family/friends in the railroading business that I should be able to get an entry level position as a laborer at the least.
12/3/2010 2:41:20 PM EDT
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No need to make moral judgements, it is what it is.


It was a joke.


12/3/2010 2:59:37 PM EDT
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This is true, but consider also your job prospects in the civilian world, in case your plan A doesn't work out.


If I obtain the trades and history/business degree, I can always teach high school or elementary level history/social studies, if I some how get hurt in my line of work. I also forgot to add my other line of interest, working for the rail road just requires a BA in anything and they will teach you what you need to learn. If I obtain the trades I have enough family/friends in the railroading business that I should be able to get an entry level position as a laborer at the least.


I don't know how it is in Oregon but in KS, just because you get a "History degree", doesn't mean you can just automatically teach.

I already hold a degree in the subject or content area I want to teach (such as mathematics).  What do I have to do to qualify for a teaching license?
You will still have to complete a teacher preparation program.  You could complete a traditional teacher preparation program as described above.  However, because you already have content coursework completed, you may be eligible for an alternative licensure program.


Step One: Assess your eligibility

Eligibility-(Must meet all eligibility requirements)

   * A Bachelor’s degree or higher from a regionally accredited university
   * The degree must be in a regular education content area you want to teach
   * A cumulative GPA of 2.50 from college coursework completed

Step Two: Contact participating Kansas universities

Have the university hosting the program evaluate your transcript to ensure you meet the content requirements for the subject matter you want to teach. Develop a plan of study with the alternative certification program staff. Program length may vary depending on the institution.

Alternative Route Program Contact List
Step Three: Locate and apply for a teaching position

Locate and apply for a teaching position by visiting Kansas Education Employment Board. Contact the employer and inquire if a restricted license is appropriate for the position.
Step Four: Apply for the Restricted License

The application process is a coordinated effort with sections completed by the individual, the school district hiring the individual, and the higher education institution providing the course work. Once the license is issued, you will teach full-time while completing the required professional education course work towards full licensure.
Step Five: Progress report

A progress report must be submitted every year verifying that appropriate progress has been made towards a full license.  During the first year of teaching, your progress includes passing a content assessment.  The restricted license will be canceled if you do not make appropriate progress.
Step Six: Apply for a full Kansas license

The institution will recommend for a full Kansas license after you successfully complete all of the coursework and testing requirements on the plan of study.
12/3/2010 3:39:58 PM EDT
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My bachelor's degree is in History-Politics.  Unless you are planning on going to law school or getting a PhD and teaching, don't do this.  It severely limits your job opportunities out of college.

OTH, getting a minor in History can be a good thing.  It helps show that whole "well rounded" thing you're supposed to get from a college education.

Also, don't go into debt to get a degree.  If you have to finance your education with loans it will be a giant monkey on your back for a long time afterwards, especially with a liberal arts degree, which is likely to result in a low-paying job.  And FWIW, student loans are not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
12/3/2010 3:43:11 PM EDT
[#23]
While degree selections are pretty much worthless, there are some degrees to stay away (psychology, and history) from if you don't want to be a teacher, lawyer, make shit money, or be a LEO.

Political science can go either way.
12/3/2010 3:46:41 PM EDT
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I was wondering if a History Major, and Business Minor would be a good selection for degree choices. ...



No.

Next question.
12/3/2010 4:12:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Get a double major in math and computer science or econ and computer science. That'll get you off to a good start in the business world.

12/3/2010 4:13:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Get an engineering degree and when you retire early you'll have all the time in the world to ready about history from the comfort of your paid off home.
12/3/2010 4:22:39 PM EDT
[#27]
I have a dual major in business and accounting, I have always qualified for decent jobs thanks to either degree. To answer your question, I would major with a business degree and minor on the history degree. If you are looking to teach after your potential LE career, the history minor will help. But the business major will qualify you for a lot more in this world.
12/3/2010 4:25:21 PM EDT
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Get a double major in math and computer science or econ and computer science. That'll get you off to a good start in the business world.


Additionally, you can also look at internal audit and fraud prevention, thanks to recent legislation these fields will also help you in the business world and even government jobs.

12/3/2010 4:27:07 PM EDT
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Political science can go either way.


It is what you make of it.

Four years out of college I will be pulling down ~$80,000.

Go to law school and you can do better.  Or worse.
12/3/2010 4:29:07 PM EDT
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Get an engineering degree and when you retire early you'll have all the time in the world to ready about history from the comfort of your paid off home.


Depends.  Many places it takes an extra year to get an engineering degree.  That represents around a $70,000 cost, if you include the opportunity cost in there.  More if you go to an expensive school or live in a pricey area.

It takes a while to make that money back.
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