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8/18/2026 6:10:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By guns762:

Ill try to write out a few tomorrow.    Not really that many that I can think of off hand.  
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By 1catquak:
Originally Posted By brass:


From what we've heard, more than would fit in  a post short enough to read.  His kid for one, a few others changed what they wanted to do with their life after taking his art class, is that what you were looking for?


yes

Ill try to write out a few tomorrow.    Not really that many that I can think of off hand.  

I didn't get any time in my classroom today.   We had an excellent speaker cone in and give us a lesson in classroom management.

Normally, I probably would be skeptical about the strategies being taught, but this guy was impressive and was able to explained why some of our strategies work some times and why they don't.    Most of us think of it as "carrot or stick" but he was able to explain what really motivates people during the time when we approach kids about behavior.  

Really interesting.   I was able to realize why I'm successful in many instances in my approach and where I could handle it better, and how to decrease my own stress from the behavior problems.


Will be interesting to see how it works this year.

Guy was really interesting to listen to.  Not the normal type of In-service speaker.

Larry Thompson-
https://accutrain.com/rcd/

Responsibility-Centered Discipline is designed to empower students of all ages by fostering their ability to regulate their own actions and behaviors. Through guided conversations and consistent expectations, RCD encourages students to reflect on their decisions, understand the impact of their choices and take ownership of their actions. Rather than reacting impulsively or depending on authority figures to dictate consequences, students are taught to pause, assess situations and make responsible choices. This process builds the “muscle” of self-control over time, dramatically improving overall student behavior.
8/19/2026 11:46:48 AM EDT
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Update 8/19-  

Some crazy generous donations came in today!  



Arcommers are the most generous group ever!   The kids are always stunned to see the donations.   They can't fathom how "strangers who live in other towns"  want to help them.      Always fun to watch their reactions to these.  

Anyway,

Huge THANK YOUs to :

@pasquale91


@Frank_B


and of course, @VortexSam and Vortex Optics !  



8/19/2026 1:46:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/19-  

Some crazy generous donations came in today!  

https://i.imgur.com/6NTiQmQ.jpg

Arcommers are the most generous group ever!   The kids are always stunned to see the donations.   They can't fathom how "strangers who live in other towns"  want to help them.      Always fun to watch their reactions to these.  

Anyway,

Huge THANK YOUs to :

@pasquale91
https://i.imgur.com/CmtbDui.jpg

@Frank_B
https://i.imgur.com/aY12GgV.jpg

and of course, @VortexSam and Vortex Optics !  



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Bravo Zulu to the "Investors", sure validates all the good things you are doing Guns....   Auspicious start to the Guild this year.   Keep up the momentum....
trobertston5-0
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8/20/2026 10:10:22 AM EDT
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These investments will pay thousand-fold dividends when your students graduate and become employed as they'll know how to work both as teams and as individuals. They'll probably wind up in management in short order.

"...Capitalism...shares its blessings unequally; ...Socialism...shares its miseries equally."
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8/20/2026 10:22:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1catquak:
Can you share any “success “ stories of kids that used what they learned doing these projects as they moved in to adulthood?
Seems to me that the experience could add to a resume for Hollywood set building. Lots of things really.
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I've got a little time this morning, as the Freshman are in orientation for a bit.    My upper classmen don't get here for another couple hours today.


The success stories I know most of, are my own youngest son.   He worked on the original dragon skeleton when he was a freshman, and then on the U-boat as a Senior.    He is proudly wearing his "Electrical Engineer" U-boat shirt in one of the photos I shared.    He majored in Computer engineering and graduated #2 in his class in H.S and at U.W.   He now works for Raytheon Missile Defence in Tucson, AZ.    He is lead on his project there.    When he was a freshman at UW he mentored one of his friends who was a Senior working on our locomotive.    Christian also went to U.W and majored in CE.   He also now works for Raytheon.    

Many students have gone on to work at local Taxidermy studios.   Not sure I can think of other stories right now.   People ask me what I teach, and Art is what my title is, but I teach problem solving, patience, persistence, attention to detail, learning to take positive risks, and that failure is only part of the learning process on the way to success.
8/20/2026 10:26:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:
These investments will pay thousand-fold dividends when your students graduate and become employed as they'll know how to work both as teams and as individuals. They'll probably wind up in management in short order.

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That is exactly why my son is in his position right now.     He works well in teams, and is able to lead, not just be an SME.  

So many young kids want to do something, but immediately give up when they don't succeed the first time.     That is something that is not allowed to happen with these projects, or even my normal classes.    Perfection is not realistic, and getting it right the first time, is rare.    We fail all the time, the first time, sometimes, the 2nd and even 3rd times.    The F-22 frame is a 3rd attempt.    We had to scrap it entirely the 1st and most of the 2nd time.
8/20/2026 10:38:24 AM EDT
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As we get going with our main projects, I also already have some side projects that I may steal a few kids to work on.    Landon P. is back and was excited to get into one of my classes.   That kid is a welding and fabricating genius, as well as an outstanding artist.  


I added new siding to my cabin this summer, and my wife decided that the Big Horn Sheep horns that had been hanging on the peak of the cabin for over the last 50yrs were not going back up.   I hadn't looked at them that close, and am not a sheep expert, but once I got it down, it's pretty impressive.   It's definitely weathered, and will need a little reconditioning, but we will leave them in their aged look, mostly.  

What I'd like to see Landon and a few others take on is using them to create a nice drift wood sculpture of a Big Horn Sheep.   I played with AI to see if I could get a basic rendering.    It didn't turn out very good, but my wife likes the idea.    Not sure if I will be able to hang it inside our cabin or not.   It's a small A-Frame, so wall space is limited, but it's going to be fun putting it together, and maybe the school will end up with it.  We will see.

This is what I'd like to see us make.....


We could buy a form and add to it, but I don't think it would turn out as well, as if I have Landon build a metal frame to hang the wood pieces directly on.    This is the basic stance that I'd like to see us pursue.


Here are the horns sitting on my deck after I took them down.


Maybe what we might end up with?  It's too filled in for what I'd like to see, and too realistic in it's rendering, unlike the horse above.   Should look cool if we can get it done.  
8/20/2026 11:47:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:Landon P. is back and was excited to get into one of my classes.   That kid is a welding and fabricating genius, as well as an outstanding artist.
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Is he the one who made that Ram last year? He does good work.
8/20/2026 11:54:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
As we get going with our main projects, I also already have some side projects that I may steal a few kids to work on.    Landon P. is back and was excited to get into one of my classes.   That kid is a welding and fabricating genius, as well as an outstanding artist.  


I added new siding to my cabin this summer, and my wife decided that the Big Horn Sheep horns that had been hanging on the peak of the cabin for over the last 50yrs were not going back up.   I hadn't looked at them that close, and am not a sheep expert, but once I got it down, it's pretty impressive.   It's definitely weathered, and will need a little reconditioning, but we will leave them in their aged look, mostly.  

What I'd like to see Landon and a few others take on is using them to create a nice drift wood sculpture of a Big Horn Sheep.   I played with AI to see if I could get a basic rendering.    It didn't turn out very good, but my wife likes the idea.    Not sure if I will be able to hang it inside our cabin or not.   It's a small A-Frame, so wall space is limited, but it's going to be fun putting it together, and maybe the school will end up with it.  We will see.

This is what I'd like to see us make.....
https://i.imgur.com/JOTR2m7.jpg

We could buy a form and add to it, but I don't think it would turn out as well, as if I have Landon build a metal frame to hang the wood pieces directly on.    This is the basic stance that I'd like to see us pursue.
https://i.imgur.com/V83QWM8.jpg

Here are the horns sitting on my deck after I took them down.
https://i.imgur.com/WsOaj4Q.jpg

Maybe what we might end up with?  It's too filled in for what I'd like to see, and too realistic in it's rendering, unlike the horse above.   Should look cool if we can get it done.  
https://i.imgur.com/4bvJIid.jpg
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Those are neat ways to display a set of horns. I saw several different animals done in a similar fashion at the Safari Club International convention and the Dallas Safari Club show, may have been the same artist at each show. One other booth had some mounts done with metal sculpture as well, just odds and ends put together randomly but with the end result in mind, sort of abstract but very cleverly done.
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. In the end, the one who wins is the one who thinks he can! - SCI, NRA
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8/20/2026 12:01:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird:
Is he the one who made that Ram last year? He does good work.
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That was Dawson.....   He graduated.    Great kid.  

Landon worked on the Apollo switches, Jump gate, BSG, and a host of other things.   He was able to fix our F-22 several times last year, and is a Junior this year.   He welded some incredible things last year in his welding classes.
8/20/2026 12:36:50 PM EDT
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Tagged for the best class in America.
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8/20/2026 4:18:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:
These investments will pay thousand-fold dividends when your students graduate and become employed as they'll know how to work both as teams and as individuals. They'll probably wind up in management in short order.

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x1000

I don't even think the things they learn from project management to how to hold something when gluing it and which glue works for which materials and a thousand other little things is just in their brain growing and sprouting and maybe a few make a "Maker" channel building stuff as a hobby to help this real job.

Since we can't really track them (well, we shouldn't track them...), we can only get information volunteered back channelto the Boss art teacher who can share with us.

But, just like my high school and college woodworking and metal shop teachers and learnings, the knowledge is invaluable and grows exponentially since it's getting those first seeds started and then you know how to forge weld or arc weld or tig weld for your problem, and what equipment you have.  Same goes for turning a new leg for a chair that broke and things like that which are just something you I know, like common sense.    Guns' students seem to be the only ones learning real world "Maker" common sense in his zip code, but I can pretty much guarantee you other art teachers saw at least one of the write ups, like the president did, and are trying to get something started on donations but still starting small.

He's the leader and hopefully there are many followers and maybe even another Unique Art Teacher sprouting.

The hardest part will be getting a metal shop and wood shop at the school before expanding the art program, unless you want to go full Guns style and have more tools than the wood department and just say "you guys are too slow" and do his own thing.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
8/21/2026 9:24:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks:
Sir, you are a treasure.  I post a lot on the failure of public schools, and on Bell Curves.  You're on the curve....waaaaay over on the right side.  If every teacher was like you, we wouldn't have a problem in the schools.

In case I missed it, how would one donate to this worthy cause?
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@Lou_Daks

Your check arrived today!    THANK YOU!    Incredible generosity.     We will work to do you proud.  



8/21/2026 9:50:11 AM EDT
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Update 8/21

It's a short day for us today, so we won't get much done today.    Kids will watch a Ladder Safety video and we will go over some basic classroom expectations today.      Some of my Advanced kids might get some of the items in our Amazon list narrowed down a bit, so we can get them ordered.    When we get a little further into this, I'll get you guys a link to the list if you'd like to help us out that way.
8/21/2026 10:39:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/21

It's a short day for us today, so we won't get much done today.    Kids will watch a Ladder Safety video and we will go over some basic classroom expectations today.      Some of my Advanced kids might get some of the items in our Amazon list narrowed down a bit, so we can get them ordered.    When we get a little further into this, I'll get you guys a link to the list if you'd like to help us out that way.
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That'd be good- we may be ablevto save some of the donations that have been sent for other times when they may be desperately needed- like when you gotta do a complete makeover.  
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8/21/2026 11:03:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:

...Maybe what we might end up with?  It's too filled in for what I'd like to see, and too realistic in it's rendering, unlike the horse above.   Should look cool if we can get it done.  
https://i.imgur.com/4bvJIid.jpg
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That ram is beautiful! What AI did you use?

Bighorns are my favorites of the wild animals.

This was an early try, before I signed up and didn't get to make corrections.
"...Capitalism...shares its blessings unequally; ...Socialism...shares its miseries equally."
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8/21/2026 12:06:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:

@Lou_Daks

Your check arrived today!    THANK YOU!    Incredible generosity.     We will work to do you proud.  

https://i.imgur.com/iaMGTjZ.jpg

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Thank YOU!

I read in a previous post about your students asking why strangers would be so generous.  It's because they are Americans, and Americans step up when there's a real need and when we can be assured the help will be used wisely.  We're paying it back to previous generations, and paying it forward to the citizens of tomorrow.  God bless you and your class.

Lou
8/21/2026 12:36:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks:

Thank YOU!

I read in a previous post about your students asking why strangers would be so generous.  It's because they are Americans, and Americans step up when there's a real need and when we can be assured the help will be used wisely.  We're paying it back to previous generations, and paying it forward to the citizens of tomorrow.  God bless you and your class.

Lou
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8/21/2026 12:37:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:

That ram is beautiful! What AI did you use?

Bighorns are my favorites of the wild animals.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/353196/AI_Bighorn_1-3620526.jpg
This was an early try, before I signed up and didn't get to make corrections.
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:
Originally Posted By guns762:

...Maybe what we might end up with?  It's too filled in for what I'd like to see, and too realistic in it's rendering, unlike the horse above.   Should look cool if we can get it done.  
https://i.imgur.com/4bvJIid.jpg

That ram is beautiful! What AI did you use?

Bighorns are my favorites of the wild animals.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/353196/AI_Bighorn_1-3620526.jpg
This was an early try, before I signed up and didn't get to make corrections.

I used Gemini for that.
8/21/2026 3:04:24 PM EDT
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This is gonna be good!
For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
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8/21/2026 4:34:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Have a great weekend everyone. We're off to the rodeo!
8/21/2026 7:39:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pasquale91:
Have a great weekend everyone. We're off to the rodeo!
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Charlotte and I brainstormed a bit about the column, and how to make it look better than the AI rendering.

We will start a framework similar to our tower last year, but with organic shaped floors and uneven floor spaces.   We should be able to add coral and rock structure around that, as well as the siren.
8/24/2026 11:23:53 AM EDT
[#23]
Just sent in MY donation.
"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
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8/24/2026 1:09:37 PM EDT
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Just sent in MY donation.
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Thank you!    I really appreciate the support!    You've been super generous over the years.    

Ill let you know when it shows up.
8/24/2026 1:55:06 PM EDT
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Just sent in MY donation.
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I'm just here to donate whining and ideas.  
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
8/24/2026 3:29:21 PM EDT
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Update 8/24

I spent money for the first time this year, so I thought I would continue to let people know approximately how much this project has cost up to date.    

It went quick.....

+ I ordered 5 gal of paint, rollers, trays=   $300
+ 2 sheets of foam, 2 sheets of plywood, 7- 2x4s, 4- 2x2s, 5-1x2s= $300
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total as of 8/24/26                                                    $600
8/24/2026 3:36:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/24

I spent money for the first time this year, so I thought I would continue to let people know approximately how much this project has cost up to date.    

It went quick.....

+ I ordered 5 gal of paint, rollers, trays=   $300
+ 2 sheets of foam, 2 sheets of plywood, 7- 2x4s, 4- 2x2s, 5-1x2s= $300
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total as of 8/24/26                                                    $600
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And so it begins ...
Life is about choices.
If you make a mistake once, it's a mistake.
You make the same mistake again, that's a choice.
8/24/2026 3:36:19 PM EDT
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Update 8/24.2

Kids got into groups today and started taking measurements , and brainstorming what they would like to see in each area.    Love how much enthusiasm there is when we begin.   So cool.  





Many faces should look familiar here..  


Hayden and Riley deep in discussion about how the Arizona might look.


Cambree and Kaylen, 2 or my team leaders back again.




Matt and The Great Dane.......  Looking forward to the F-4.
8/24/2026 3:39:33 PM EDT
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I'm just here to donate whining and ideas.  
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Ideas and constructive criticism are equally as important.       The students know exactly who "brass" is.  Remember, you and I have matching crow cages hanging next to each other on the castle walls.  
8/24/2026 4:47:14 PM EDT
[#30]
I don’t care what you do this year, but I. AM. IN!!1!
ProTip: Never pick a fight with a tree planter. He swings a hoedad for 9 hours a day, carries 30-40 pounds of seedlings on his back, and has 12-14 friends just like him hiding out on the other side of the junk butt pile. They will fuck your shit up.
8/24/2026 6:51:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/24

I spent money for the first time this year, so I thought I would continue to let people know approximately how much this project has cost up to date.    

It went quick.....

+ I ordered 5 gal of paint, rollers, trays=   $300
+ 2 sheets of foam, 2 sheets of plywood, 7- 2x4s, 4- 2x2s, 5-1x2s= $300
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total as of 8/24/26                                                    $600
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Wow that is cheap.   That's less than half as much as one pint (1 qt mixed) for automotive color and urethane 2k clear coat.    Though I guess the walls don't have to sit outside under the sun, get pelted with gravel and al sorts of chemicals then washed then frozen and repeated.  Walls have it easy.

Is that the low end or mid range sherwin williams and do you use the matte, eggshell or satin?  I'm pretty sure it's not gloss.
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
8/24/2026 7:11:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/19-  

Some crazy generous donations came in today!  

https://i.imgur.com/6NTiQmQ.jpg

Arcommers are the most generous group ever!   The kids are always stunned to see the donations.   They can't fathom how "strangers who live in other towns"  want to help them.      Always fun to watch their reactions to these.  

Anyway,

Huge THANK YOUs to :

@pasquale91
https://i.imgur.com/CmtbDui.jpg

@Frank_B
https://i.imgur.com/aY12GgV.jpg

and of course, @VortexSam and Vortex Optics !  



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Two things. HOLY SHIT! and now I got your address.
ProTip: Never pick a fight with a tree planter. He swings a hoedad for 9 hours a day, carries 30-40 pounds of seedlings on his back, and has 12-14 friends just like him hiding out on the other side of the junk butt pile. They will fuck your shit up.
8/24/2026 7:14:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cargo:



Bravo Zulu to the "Investors", sure validates all the good things you are doing Guns....   Auspicious start to the Guild this year.   Keep up the momentum....
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Just sayin’, this meant more to me than can be imagined.

ProTip: Never pick a fight with a tree planter. He swings a hoedad for 9 hours a day, carries 30-40 pounds of seedlings on his back, and has 12-14 friends just like him hiding out on the other side of the junk butt pile. They will fuck your shit up.
8/24/2026 7:17:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/24.2

Kids got into groups today and started taking measurements , and brainstorming what they would like to see in each area.    Love how much enthusiasm there is when we begin.   So cool.  

https://i.imgur.com/3UztNY0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/G2YHBtn.jpg

Many faces should look familiar here..  
https://i.imgur.com/nf4YjcL.jpg

Hayden and Riley deep in discussion about how the Arizona might look.
https://i.imgur.com/3E4TCVl.jpg

Cambree and Kaylen, 2 or my team leaders back again.
https://i.imgur.com/skEu3cw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Uxko4Np.jpg

Matt and The Great Dane.......  Looking forward to the F-4.
https://i.imgur.com/yOUHsDv.jpg
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And so it begins.  Man I love this place.
ProTip: Never pick a fight with a tree planter. He swings a hoedad for 9 hours a day, carries 30-40 pounds of seedlings on his back, and has 12-14 friends just like him hiding out on the other side of the junk butt pile. They will fuck your shit up.
8/24/2026 8:51:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:



Wow that is cheap.   That's less than half as much as one pint (1 qt mixed) for automotive color and urethane 2k clear coat.    Though I guess the walls don't have to sit outside under the sun, get pelted with gravel and al sorts of chemicals then washed then frozen and repeated.  Walls have it easy.

Is that the low end or mid range sherwin williams and do you use the matte, eggshell or satin?  I'm pretty sure it's not gloss.
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We went with satin and I think he said SuperCoat.     We've used it before.   It rolls nice for the price and is what they recommended.     This is for the walls, of course.   For some of the projects. We will buy the more expensive options if needed.
8/24/2026 8:58:34 PM EDT
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And so it begins.  Man I love this place.
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It really was a great day....

I was apprehensive this morning,  thinking how am i going to get these kids excited about this when I have no materials to start....


Nope, they were awesome.    I couldn't keep up with the groups wanting my attention to discuss their ideas.    Some great ideas,  and some crazy cool things for details when we get that far.   I had to keep reminding them we had to get the bases figured out first.

Wood and foam arrived 7th hour and Dayton already had things marked off to start cutting tomorrow.

Paint will arrive tomorrow.
8/24/2026 9:32:04 PM EDT
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@guns762
Have any of your students gone into industrial design? Seems like a nice fit for the skills you are building.

Looking forward to this years project.
8/25/2026 8:10:54 AM EDT
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8/25/2026 9:33:36 AM EDT
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Almost sure, I'll see it Monday.    
8/25/2026 3:14:49 PM EDT
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Update 8/25

Paint is on the wall, saw dust is flying.......and frantic measurements are happening.

We are planning on having a full 1/1 scale Tiger shark.   The girls are working out sizes and how much of our shark we can fit on the wall above our diver.    


Jim, Beth and Sawyer all working on scaling the F-4.   We decided 1/3rd scale would best fit in the display.     We considered 1/2 scale for a bit, but that is pretty big for just one corner of the room.


Landon P went down to work on the F-22.....again..... actuating arm broke again.....   then he started working on the rolling base that our diver will stand on.       He wasn't able to work on the sheep today, as the welding shop was closed during a lecture in there.


Paige and Taylor working on adding some darker blue to the corner of the room.    We will add this color is several spots before starting other lighter values of blue and blue/green into the composition.    
8/25/2026 3:21:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Frank_B][Edited] [#41]
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/24.2
Kids got into groups today and started taking measurements , and brainstorming what they would like to see in each area.    Love how much enthusiasm there is when we begin.   So cool.
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Jim, every time I look out those windows in your work area, I'm reminded of the opening scenes of "Red Dawn".
"...Capitalism...shares its blessings unequally; ...Socialism...shares its miseries equally."
Winston Churchill
8/25/2026 3:27:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762][Edited] [#42]
And now...... HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!    Vortex Optics and @VortexSam just dropped a bomb on us.......a Vortex Christmas Bomb!!!!!  

Sam, thank you so much!!!!    This is awesome.     Watching the girls geek out over the spotting scope was too cool.

I figured with how generous Vortex Optics was with us, sending a check for $1,000 this fall, there probably wouldn't be any prizes for this year's T-shirt fundraiser raffle.....   I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!

It was too funny trying to keep the girls from opening the box too early.    THEY WERE INCREDIBLY EXCITED.   I've got more girls who hunt in that particular class than boys.   Their eyes were huge as we opened the box.





In the box there were Vortex stickers......I had to remind them, they would be in a drawing for students later, and a bunch of really nice Vortex Hats.    There was probably 20 of them, I need to go count.    There were 3 Pairs of Diamondback 12x50 binoculars!!!!!! AND.........   Wow!!!!!    a Vortex Diamondback 16-48x65 spotting scope!!!!   As we did last year, some hats, stickers and one pair of the binos will go to an art student raffle, and the remaining hats,  2 pairs of binos and the Spotting scope will be raffled off to ARFCOM members who buy shirts or hoodies from our fundraiser.  

8/25/2026 3:31:08 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:

Jim, every time I look out those windows in your work area, I'm reminded of the opening scenes of "Red Dawn".
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Right????    

Good news is........it is legal for teachers to CCW in WY, and in PCSD #1.
8/25/2026 3:33:27 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By RUM:
@guns762
Have any of your students gone into industrial design? Seems like a nice fit for the skills you are building.

Looking forward to this years project.
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Not sure about that, but yes, many of my students really love doing this kind of work, and I'm sure there will be a few or there are a few who have pursued that work in their adult life.
8/25/2026 3:37:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
And now...... HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!    Vortex Optics and @VortexSam just dropped a bomb on us.......a Vortex Christmas Bomb!!!!!  

Sam, thank you so much!!!!    This is awesome.     Watching the girls geek out over the spotting scope was too cool.

I figured with how generous Vortex Optics was with us, sending a check for $1,000 this fall, there probably wouldn't be any prizes for this year's T-shirt fundraiser raffle.....   I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!

It was too funny trying to keep the girls from opening the box too early.    THEY WERE INCREDIBLY EXCITED.   I've got more girls who hunt in that particular class than boys.   Their eyes were huge as we opened the box.

https://i.imgur.com/41QXR0M.jpg

In the box there were Vortex stickers......I had to remind them, they would be in a drawing for students later, and a bunch of really nice Vortex Hats.    There was probably 20 of them, I need to go count.    There were 3 Pairs of Diamondback 12x50 binoculars!!!!!! AND.........   Wow!!!!!    a Vortex Diamondback 16-48x65 spotting scope!!!!   As we did last year, some hats, stickers and one pair of the binos will go to an art student raffle, and the remaining hats,  2 pairs of binos and the Spotting scope will be raffled off to ARFCOM members who buy shirts or hoodies from our fundraiser.  

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WOW!
Jim, those binoculars will be great for astronomy. There's a lot up there to see after dark. There's a eclipse Thursday around midnight.
"...Capitalism...shares its blessings unequally; ...Socialism...shares its miseries equally."
Winston Churchill
8/25/2026 6:46:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Bump, cause I missed the cool photo of all the Vortex swag and optics!
8/25/2026 7:20:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:

WOW!
Jim, those binoculars will be great for astronomy. There's a lot up there to see after dark. There's an eclipse Thursday around midnight.
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I’m already planning that eclipse.

I’ll try to make this my only off topic post here



ProTip: Never pick a fight with a tree planter. He swings a hoedad for 9 hours a day, carries 30-40 pounds of seedlings on his back, and has 12-14 friends just like him hiding out on the other side of the junk butt pile. They will fuck your shit up.
8/26/2026 6:46:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:

Not sure about that, but yes, many of my students really love doing this kind of work, and I'm sure there will be a few or there are a few who have pursued that work in their adult life.
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By RUM:
@guns762
Have any of your students gone into industrial design? Seems like a nice fit for the skills you are building.

Looking forward to this years project.

Not sure about that, but yes, many of my students really love doing this kind of work, and I'm sure there will be a few or there are a few who have pursued that work in their adult life.


I can guarantee if I was given instruction with project management, design, attention to detail (especially the parts you don't think anybody will see), and dozens of other things in your classes, I would have gone further sooner in live and made some different choices.  

Looking back, the internet has made things so much easier, and for the students who want to learn, the avenue is there to find the information and learn hands on from STEM to languages to Art. the way Richard Feynman said that all textbooks for all classes are junk, they've removed problem solving and hands on learning how to find solutions and replaced them with being able to regurgitate memorized lists without knowing what the words even mean.  And that was around 1970, and books are far worse with the "teach to the test" mentality and only needing to remember the right word or formula, rather than understand the word from lain roots or the formula by educated guesses as  to what is needed then try deriving from first principles if it isn't recalled quickly.

I honestly fondly remember my Metal and Wood shop teacher (high school) and all sorts of metal and wood classes in college (another single man who kept me in university).   I think I got more from them than in some of the electronics classes, Art was even ahead of a couple of the lower end electronics classes for breaking new mental territory.

So with all that said, I am sure that all the students who kept their grades up and went through all their  years in your art class WILL have a much better time at life.   Everything from designing to cutting to cleaning up work area each day.   Then you go into robotics which wasn't an option when I was in Jr High metal/wood shop and no teacher would have had time to do  anything near the scale of what you're pulling off repetitively!  

It will be a great loss to the students when you retire (at least all the coves will be full).  Replacement has some giant shoes to fill and needs to know bout tinkering and projects as much or more than the art basics, but needs to have an artistic mind that has broken into the technical area as well.   The only hope he would have would being adopted by us or some other form if he's a good teacher (ensure basics are understood and have students discover answers for themselves instead of repeating a word they don't the know the  meaning of).   In short -  not one of the Big City Thinkers, like the art teachers that petition get a school banned from the contest because they're too good and sweep nearly all the top trophies in many categories, in addition to lots of lower place slots, rather than trying to improve on their own they have to bring others down, like an HOA.

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--ETA:  Quick google search made a video out of it, I only remember what he talked about in his book "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" which runs narrates his life  from school textbooks to learning in general, then to why a shuttle exploded, quantum mechanics and more, excellent book if you're a bit geeky, there's no hard math in it.

The Problem-Solving Method They Removed From Every Textbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl3OLK9vP1o

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
8/26/2026 10:44:57 AM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By guns762:
And now...... HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!    Vortex Optics and @VortexSam just dropped a bomb on us.......a Vortex Christmas Bomb!!!!!  

Sam, thank you so much!!!!    This is awesome.     Watching the girls geek out over the spotting scope was too cool.

I figured with how generous Vortex Optics was with us, sending a check for $1,000 this fall, there probably wouldn't be any prizes for this year's T-shirt fundraiser raffle.....   I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!

It was too funny trying to keep the girls from opening the box too early.    THEY WERE INCREDIBLY EXCITED.   I've got more girls who hunt in that particular class than boys.   Their eyes were huge as we opened the box.

https://i.imgur.com/41QXR0M.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ILzulBy.jpeg

In the box there were Vortex stickers......I had to remind them, they would be in a drawing for students later, and a bunch of really nice Vortex Hats.    There was probably 20 of them, I need to go count.    There were 3 Pairs of Diamondback 12x50 binoculars!!!!!! AND.........   Wow!!!!!    a Vortex Diamondback 16-48x65 spotting scope!!!!   As we did last year, some hats, stickers and one pair of the binos will go to an art student raffle, and the remaining hats,  2 pairs of binos and the Spotting scope will be raffled off to ARFCOM members who buy shirts or hoodies from our fundraiser.  

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Very cool, thanks for posting the picture! That will definitely make some peoples day here at Vortex! I'll be sure to pass it along!
www.vortexoptics.com
8/26/2026 1:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 8/24

I spent money for the first time this year, so I thought I would continue to let people know approximately how much this project has cost up to date.    

It went quick.....

+ I ordered 5 gal of paint, rollers, trays=   $300
+ 2 sheets of foam, 2 sheets of plywood, 7- 2x4s, 4- 2x2s, 5-1x2s= $300
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total as of 8/24/26                                                    $600
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+   $215 to Amazon for male and female mannequins, hazmat suits
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total as of 8/26/26                                                       $815.00

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