Posted: 6/7/2005 4:05:12 PM EDT
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I like it... I know its more of the reality show craze... But it doesnt seem to be that hyped up, its actually some pretty serious shit. How many people died in the Opelio season? 5? Those guys got some big brass knockers to go brave those kind of elements, odds, and hours for a buck. |
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In case anyone didn 't know....People DIE there....Unlike American Idol or stupid ass stuff like that. I watch it. I was shrimper in my teens....It was nothing like they go through. Compareing this to "reality tv" like Idol, ro whatever is contemptable. It's funny the same peeps that watch ETA: AI think wrestling is fake  Yes, we are ACTUALLY voting!
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I got an opposite read. There's a tonnage of crab that can be got. You better get yours when you can. There's still comp. Season's short. Otherwise there's no stress. |
Huh? There is a fixed amount of crab they can catch, combined. The ships must report their daily catch so the Game and Fish department can know when to close the season. Its very competitive, as the boats fight to get loaded before the season ends and hopefully get a second load started before the season ends. |
I'm split on this one. In principle, I loved the competition. In reality, nobody should be out on a boat in that kind of WX, but with boat payments and an unbearably short season ya gotta make do. I quit winter fishing early in my career just because I knew that it wasn't going to be long before my number came up. Sometime before I left Kodiak after about 10 years, I was in the rack looking up wit a case of channel fever. I started thinking about all the weddings and funeral/memorial services I had been to. I was in my early 30s. I counted about 50 funeral/memorial services and about 5 weddings. In a couple instances I had been to a mans wedding AND memorial service. That's just plain WRONG for a guy in his eary 30s. |
actualy this is the last year of the derby style season. Next year everyone gets a quota and (not sure if they have a limited season) but once you catch your quota you are done. The captains were talking about some of the deckhands not being able to find work anymore and some of the boats actualy going out of buisness. One captain was actualy crying. |
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Goonboss, Ichwarrior, when that show was filmed, there WAS a set tonnage of crab to be caught, and it was a free-for-all as to who got the most. When the WHOLE fleet combined had the total tonnage for the season, then the season ended. Didn't matter if one boat caught 50%, and the rest of the boats split 50% of the catch. Apparently NOW, they still have a set tonnage that can be caught. But now they have to split it evenly (or whatever) between the boats. They provide the boats with how many tons they can bring in, and that's all they can bring in. Evens the playing field. Sounds alot like Socialism, doesn't it? 
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Your right on that one, 50 degrees outside is too cold for me, it's hard to imagine falling in the water and being dead in 3 minutes, 75 degree water here feels freezing. |
In the 80s there was a BUNCH of drug abuse out there. Speed, and coke to keep you going, and pot to unwind so you could sleep. The tales of fishermen spending it as fast as they could make it on drugs, whores and general vice are not too far off. Seriously. I don't have a clue as to what it's like now, though. Zero Tolorance and Mandatory licensing has probably put a crimp in it, but I'm still sure it exists. BigB1129: It's one thing to sit before a keyboard in NY babbling about fishing 'Derby style', and yet another thing to be fighting 25 foot(and bigger) seas while wrestling huge iron boxes on a heaving, slippery deck wondering about mundane things such as if you're going to get free arctic swimming lessons or not. In principle, I thing along the lines of open competition. Reality is a bit different, though. It's not worth the toll in lives and money. I went over the side once in the Gulf of Alaska in August once, and it was no picnic. I was in the water LESS than a minute and if took the breath right out of me. I don't dare imagine what it would be like in January. |
Thats what I presumed. Humans just cant remain hyper alert working a dangerous job 7 days a week, 20 hours a day for amonth straight. Even USAF long range bomber pilots have to resort for amphetamines for that type of thing. No amount of money keeps you alert after two weeks of only a couple hours of sleep a night. |
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I really enjoy the show... I have done some reserch on the new quota system... Thier will be an Individual quota system.... However it will not be "EVEN" it will be based on the boats past catch history the more you brought in with yor boat the higher your individual quota will be. The real test will be had next season to see if the new rules will have any effect on the safty of the crew and the loss of life. In my opinon I think most will still push fairly hard. They may not go out is real rough stuff like they did but They arnt going to sit in the middle of the ocean with pots in the water so the crew can have an 8 hour rest either IMO. Its still about money and wasting time is still wasting money. |
A little King Crab, some salmon. I longlined for a while for Black cod(sablefish) and gillnetted herring. I was an onshore trallop troller at Tony's, but my favoritest thing to do in the whole wide world of sports is Longline Halibut. The Sport of Kings. I'll tell you now, at age 53, the adrenal rush of sticking a gaff into one of those flat bastards is beyond belief. Put me on a roller and watch out! For DAYS after, I can beat the tar out of 37 times my weight in City Councilmen! It's been 18 years since I went 'butski fishing and I really miss it. |
Yea, I posted without watching this weeks episode. It does suck, and I get your post now... |
As far as safety goes, generally speaking, it's not the hours. It's the seas. And i agree with you. They'll still push hard. |
Yeah, sure, Sonny. Guys like you remind me of a deckhand I watched on the Delaware River for a week or so. He spent the whole week gloating about the easy money he was making because he came from the Western Rivers where the pay isn't very good. The second week they headed up the coast in measly 4s and 6s. He was so damned sick that when they reached New York Harbor, he jumped ship and went running for for home, never to be seen again. I laughed my ass off. The first time some of you keyboard sailors slide across a wet deck in 15s and 20s and miss going for a coldwater bath and find out that the only reason you're still aboard is because your shipmate risked HIS hide to keep it from happening, you'll feel a little different. Incidentally, to some of you money hounds, remember this: Sometimes coming home broke is a pretty damned good deal.BTDT. More than once. ETA: Try busting your balls gillnetting roe herring for seven or eight weeks and taking home a measly $750. It all ain't gravy, Kiddo. |
+1, Great you can stay awake. Now lets see you do that kinda work, Now try it in freezing temerature and then add in the 20+ foot seas. |