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4/4/2015 6:03:29 PM EDT
Was the game done changed on the cheap for lethality regarding shotguns?



Does Biden know about this?
4/4/2015 6:16:30 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.




This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.


 
4/4/2015 6:18:10 PM EDT
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Why would you want to?
4/4/2015 6:18:26 PM EDT
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After the video came out we tried this it works great
4/4/2015 6:18:54 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.



This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.





Why would you want to?
If for example you needed slugs but all you had available was bird shot then this would work.

 
4/4/2015 6:21:48 PM EDT
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Hummm. Someone with access to ballistic gel needs to do some 'spermentin. I wonder how effective cut shells really are.
4/4/2015 6:22:19 PM EDT
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shooting stuff is fun
4/4/2015 6:22:44 PM EDT
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Hillbilly slugs.
4/4/2015 6:23:33 PM EDT
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Lol paging 10mm.

 












Just kidding but a video would be pretty cool
4/4/2015 6:23:51 PM EDT
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Barry
4/4/2015 6:24:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.

This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.


Why would you want to?
If for example you needed slugs but all you had available was bird shot then this would work.  


That and knocking the ever loving fuck out of a bowling pin for ~$0.20

As long as the barrel is a cylinder bore, it's kinda hard to screw up as long as you check your barrel for obstructions before each shot
4/4/2015 6:25:35 PM EDT
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Found it


 
4/4/2015 6:26:47 PM EDT
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Right out of the Antarctic Cookbook.
4/4/2015 6:36:27 PM EDT
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Some people have reported shotgun KB's from doing this, but in a pinch, survival standpoint, I would not hesitate

I don't want to send anything bigger than the wad down the barrel personally
4/4/2015 6:39:04 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.



This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.





Why would you want to?
In a dire emergency, I could see it.  Other than that, it's dumber than a pile of rocks.

 
4/4/2015 6:47:30 PM EDT
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This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.


Why would you want to?


In case you needed to murder a refrigerator.
4/4/2015 6:49:53 PM EDT
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i remeber my cousins showing me this about 15 yrs ago.

Still do it time to time. they make a nice sound going down range.
4/4/2015 6:52:20 PM EDT
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Isn't it shown in art of the dynamic shotgun???
4/4/2015 6:56:05 PM EDT
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I would rather do the wax filled shot trick instead that way they would feed out of a pump





4/4/2015 6:56:24 PM EDT
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Going by a few different groups that have shot them into gel, they have pretty crappy penetration, but then they are birdshot, after all.

 
4/4/2015 7:00:03 PM EDT
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Wax vs cut shell





4/4/2015 7:02:04 PM EDT
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4/4/2015 7:07:40 PM EDT
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Nice short and to the point video.

If Nut-N-Fancy did a video on this, it'd be three 20 minute long videos.
4/4/2015 8:14:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.

This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.
 


Why would you want to?  


It was SOP back in the days before slugs were on the market.  When you needed a slug, you cut the shell.  Easier than opening the end of a shell and pouring in melted wax to hold the shot together so it acted like a slug.
4/4/2015 8:28:08 PM EDT
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Who has the link to that guy in Africa who improvised a slug mold and cast his birdshot into a solid projectile. Apparently wherever he was from had very restrictive firearm laws.
4/4/2015 8:30:32 PM EDT
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I actually contacted him on Youtube and offered to send him a slug mould

 
4/4/2015 8:36:03 PM EDT
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I would rather cast it into 00 buck.

4/4/2015 8:39:23 PM EDT
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I actually contacted him on Youtube and offered to send him a slug mould  



Im guessing he didn't take you up on the offer? Do you happen to have a link?
4/4/2015 8:41:23 PM EDT
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I would rather cast it into 00 buck.




Sounds like an idea too. Wonder how you could improvise a mold for a small round ball though.
4/4/2015 8:43:46 PM EDT
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Who has the link to that guy in Africa who improvised a slug mold and cast his birdshot into a solid projectile. Apparently wherever he was from had very restrictive firearm laws.
I actually contacted him on Youtube and offered to send him a slug mould  






Im guessing he didn't take you up on the offer? Do you happen to have a link?

He wanted no part of it. He made a stock out of pipe and some other mods. IIRC he used a bolt and a cutoff part of a barrel to cast the slugs. I cant find the video but will keep looking

 
4/4/2015 8:48:49 PM EDT
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The cut shell was to make a quick and dirty slug for when you are out duck or pheasant hunting and the buck shows up.  It was not considered for defense.  In those days, rock salt was the preferred defense load.  With black powder, rock salt was the thing to induce a lot of pain with little risk of death.  Trying to duplicate the effectiveness of rock salt with smokeless powder usually leaves a lot to be desired.
4/4/2015 8:53:56 PM EDT
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Sounds like an idea too. Wonder how you could improvise a mold for a small round ball though.
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I would rather cast it into 00 buck.




Sounds like an idea too. Wonder how you could improvise a mold for a small round ball though.


http://www.midwayusa.com/product/373263/lee-18-cavity-bullet-mold-330-diameter-00-buckshot
4/4/2015 9:00:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, when I was short on .223 I cut my .45's in half.

This is actually pretty cool; I saw this video a while back and sent it to some buddies. I had no idea you could do this with shotgun shells.


Why would you want to?

Poach deer during bird season...
4/4/2015 9:08:40 PM EDT
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This is an ancient trick, dating back to at least the depression era.  Its funny how it is being "rediscovered" via the internet.
4/4/2015 10:13:47 PM EDT
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4/4/2015 10:16:43 PM EDT
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This is an ancient trick, dating back to at least the depression era.  Its funny how it is being "rediscovered" via the internet.
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This is an ancient trick, dating back to at least the depression era.  Its funny how it is being "rediscovered" via the internet.


Yea. My dad told me that they used to do this back when he was a kid in the late 30s early 40s to shoot deer.

They were to poor to buy slugs.

Paper hulls back then.
4/4/2015 10:18:17 PM EDT
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They are cool.  Just note that the entire front end of the shell  is headed down that barrel, which is significantly larger in diameter than just the shot cup and shot.  Cylinder bore.   No chokes.
4/4/2015 11:06:38 PM EDT
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Actually, the chokes were often modified or full.  What makes them safe as far as pressure goes is that the volume taken up by the paper case is now heading down the bore rather than staying in the chamber.  This effectively makes the chamber larger and actually reduces the pressure.   The forcing cone is quite good at squishing the hull, card wads, and the shot column down to bore size.  The choke has no issues with doing this even more.  
4/4/2015 11:31:28 PM EDT
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He was a hell of a cool guy.
4/4/2015 11:40:54 PM EDT
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Does it also have good recipes for penguin?

 
4/4/2015 11:42:05 PM EDT
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Arkansas Slug.
4/5/2015 1:05:06 AM EDT
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He was a hell of a cool guy.



A gunstore Bubba who actually knew what he was talking about.
4/5/2015 10:16:30 PM EDT
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He wanted no part of it. He made a stock out of pipe and some other mods. IIRC he used a bolt and a cutoff part of a barrel to cast the slugs. I cant find the video but will keep looking  
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Who has the link to that guy in Africa who improvised a slug mold and cast his birdshot into a solid projectile. Apparently wherever he was from had very restrictive firearm laws.
I actually contacted him on Youtube and offered to send him a slug mould  






Im guessing he didn't take you up on the offer? Do you happen to have a link?

He wanted no part of it. He made a stock out of pipe and some other mods. IIRC he used a bolt and a cutoff part of a barrel to cast the slugs. I cant find the video but will keep looking  
FOUND IT!

 





4/5/2015 10:32:09 PM EDT
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Tried it when I first watched the video. Cut she'll slugs pierced a car door and stuck half in, half out. Real slugs went through and kept going.
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