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7/24/2017 5:07:38 PM EDT
I got out of traffic court earlier today; ticket was dismissed. Is it normal for a judge, to be a current named partner in a law firm? I always thought a judge was a full time gig. I don't have a problem with the judge, he was friendly.
7/24/2017 5:08:45 PM EDT
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@Aimless, I think he's a lawyer.
7/24/2017 5:10:19 PM EDT
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Judges in lower courts are sometimes part timers with a regular law practice
Many judges around here in town courts are not lawyers 
7/24/2017 5:12:37 PM EDT
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The lower you go, the more common it is.
7/24/2017 5:17:17 PM EDT
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This. Except in Florida they are called hearing officers (the vast majority of the time this is what is in traffic court). Magistrates are another thing one step below a judge. In Florida, a magistrate can practice law so long as it is not the same type of law he is appointed to be a magistrate over in the county/circuit he is appointed in. A judge cannot practice law at all (except for representing himself, of course).
7/24/2017 5:23:15 PM EDT
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"County Judges" in Texas don't have to be attorneys or even legally certified for any position.

It's a purely political elected position.

7/24/2017 5:24:14 PM EDT
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Hmm that's interesting, it was small town and was surprised to see a judge (or magistrates?) that looked familiar... I didn't realize he was a named partner until I googled him. Overall it was a interesting experience and something I glad I done on my own, instead of hiring a attorney. The judge was accommodating and explained everything fairly well.

Also, lots of dirt bags out there
7/24/2017 5:25:27 PM EDT
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Hmm that's interesting, it was small town and was surprised to see a judge (or magistrates?) that looked familiar... I didn't realize he was a named partner until I googled him. Overall it was a interesting experience and something I glad I done on my own, instead of hiring a attorney. The judge was accommodating and explained everything fairly well.

Also, lots of dirt bags out there
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Yeah, I do traffic tickets sometimes. They are fairly simple. Usually the people who hire me do it because it costs less to hire me than to take time off work. Or they just don't want to deal with the hassle.
7/24/2017 5:30:35 PM EDT
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The city and town traffic court judges here are only part-time, and the small claims "judges" are actually volunteer attorneys.  In both cases, they work as attorneys when they are not playing judge.

We have some county misdemeanor judges who are not attorneys, which is pretty common in the rural areas of my state.  I have heard some wacky stuff from them (probably not so funny to the defendant), but I have heard a lot of wacky stuff from federal and state district court judges too.
7/24/2017 5:31:50 PM EDT
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Hmm that's interesting, it was small town and was surprised to see a judge (or magistrates?) that looked familiar... I didn't realize he was a named partner until I googled him. Overall it was a interesting experience and something I glad I done on my own, instead of hiring a attorney. The judge was accommodating and explained everything fairly well.

Also, lots of dirt bags out there
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lower courts you're often going to see the "regulars" for a town who drive drunk, commit petty thefts, knock around the old lady, get caught with pot etc. Some are career scumbags, others are young, dumb and tougher than smart. 
7/24/2017 5:34:24 PM EDT
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The city and town traffic court judges here are only part-time, and the small claims "judges" are actually volunteer lawyers.  In both cases, they work as attorneys when they are not playing judge.
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Say what! What is this strange creature!?

I think years ago I had a case get kicked into some diversion court thing where we had a pretend trial with some lawyer at his office. I lost and filed the petition to have the case restored to the court's calendar for a real trial. That was in 1997, so anytime now we should get a trial date (my client told me to forget about it since it seemed like a bit of a railroad job to him)
7/24/2017 5:56:27 PM EDT
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The "judges" are unpaid volunteers, and given the title of "Judges pro Tempore."  They are usually middle ages lawyers trying to burnish their resume.  Unlike misdemeanor justice court judges, they must be lawyers.  The small claims court is not a court of record, and if you lose you can appeal to the district court for a trial de novo.  But there is no appeal from district court.

The state constitution guarantees a jury trial, so the case gets removed to district court if a jury is requested.

I have only had a few cases in there, but it is a very strange thing to have a judge trying a case who you are litigating against in another court.
7/24/2017 5:58:39 PM EDT
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The "judges" are unpaid volunteers, and given the title of "Judges pro Tempore."  They are usually middle ages lawyers trying to burnish their resume.  Unlike misdemeanor justice court judges, they must be lawyers.  The small claims court is not a court of record, and if you lose you can appeal to the district court for a trial de novo.  But there is no appeal from district court.

The state constitution guarantees a jury trial, so the case gets removed to district court if a jury is requested.
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I worked or a guy who was occasionally a American Arbitration Association arbitrator. He got paid something for it, not much, he did seem to enjoy playing judge.
7/24/2017 6:06:15 PM EDT
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Interesting.

The jurydooty, I has it this month.
7/24/2017 6:08:13 PM EDT
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My wife serves as a substitute judge in Virginia. But if she were a full time judge her name would have to be removed from the firm's name.  

See page 11 of the link for information on how states handle the issue.

http://www.ncsc.org/~/media/Files/PDF/Topics/Center%20for%20Judicial%20Ethics/Publications/EthicalIssuesforNewJudges.ashx
7/24/2017 6:22:38 PM EDT
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Not a judge, a "Traffic Hearing Officer".
7/24/2017 6:48:18 PM EDT
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Yeah, I do traffic tickets sometimes. They are fairly simple. Usually the people who hire me do it because it costs less to hire me than to take time off work. Or they just don't want to deal with the hassle.
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Yeah, I do traffic tickets sometimes. They are fairly simple. Usually the people who hire me do it because it costs less to hire me than to take time off work. Or they just don't want to deal with the hassle.
I had 3 tickets since I started driving 10 years ago, I used the same firm with decent results in the past... But for some stupid reason I really wanted to try this myself, as a personal challenge. I felt I had a decent case, not sure how well it would have worked out though. The officer described the car I was driving as a 4 door sedan, I was in a convertible. He said I was doing a 55 in a 35, my AAA app said 39-41 (before slowing down) and I was approaching a red light to make a turn. The car in front of me went through a yellow at a decent speed (I think he confused me with him). The officer was on the side of the road in a store, behind trees.

Not sure how well it would have went if the officer showed up (the reason it was dropped). I felt I had enough reasonable doubt for 20 over... The judge noticed I was from out of town and had a clean record, so he dismissed it. I also talked with someone before I went in, because I requested a accommodation for my sensory issues (I am on the spectrum), the judge was more then accommodating I felt (I thought it was going to be ignored, I never received a reply in the mail). I gave her a note from my therapist, same one I use in school for sensory issues. They complied and even moved me up, so I went right after the attorneys (I didn't expect that).

The clerk girl also gave some of my notes to judge before I went up. Not sure why, but he did read them before calling me up... He explained my options and offered a plea if I wanted to do a no contest, parking ticket or something (basically a reduced fine and no points). I plead not guilty, as I had a good feeling the officer was not in (in fact, comes to find out he lives down the road from my parents property and I noticed his car when I left for court). The judge said okay and the bailiff went back in the other room and came back saying the officer was not in. DISMISSED,

I don't know if I would do it again though, the anxiety is not worth it... I have a new respect for lawyers and police for dealing with the idiots.

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Interesting.

The jurydooty, I has it this month.
There was none. Just offenders in the middle, lawyers to the left, and cops in a separate room. The judge or magistrate, clerk, bailiff, and some random girl at the front.
7/24/2017 6:54:40 PM EDT
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My wife serves as a substitute judge in Virginia. But if she were a full time judge her name would have to be removed from the firm's name.  

See page 11 of the link for information on how states handle the issue.

http://www.ncsc.org/~/media/Files/PDF/Topics/Center%20for%20Judicial%20Ethics/Publications/EthicalIssuesforNewJudges.ashx
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I will probably read this later, as I am curious. But basically she can't be a named, how about being a unnamed partner? I know on my sister's case, she had a senior partner if I recall and wasn't' named.
7/24/2017 7:07:22 PM EDT
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"County Judges" in Texas don't have to be attorneys or even legally certified for any position.

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In Texas, a Justice of the Peace and the Municipal judges do not have to be lawyers either.   The JOP are elected and Municipal judges are appointed.  They are often Lawyers and if they are not, the law limits some of their powers (mostly certain types of warrants)   The Municipal judges are often lawyers with other full time jobs who do it as a resume builder.  In the bigger cities is can be a full time job.

As a cop who ends up in municipal court from time to time (because municipal court is mostly for traffic stuff)  I much prefer a lawyer judge. They certainly have personalities that are obvious in how they do things, but at least they do things according to the system we are all trying to deal with.  There is something to be said for people who do things by the rules.  You know what to expect and what you need to do.
7/24/2017 7:11:03 PM EDT
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In Arizona, the Justice of the Peace does not have to be a lawyer.  The Pro Tem JP does.  City/Magistrate judges are attorneys.  As are the pro tems.

My wife worked as a Pro Tem Judge for two different cities. 
7/24/2017 8:29:01 PM EDT
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I will probably read this later, as I am curious. But basically she can't be a named, how about being a unnamed partner? I know on my sister's case, she had a senior partner if I recall and wasn't' named.
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If she becomes a full time judge appointed by the General Assembly her name will have to be removed from the firm.

But not as a substitute judge.  In my area being a substitute judge is usually required before you are considered qualified for a full time appointment.
7/24/2017 8:44:29 PM EDT
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If she becomes a full time judge appointed by the General Assembly her name will have to be removed from the firm.

But not as a substitute judge.  In my area being a substitute judge is usually required before you are considered qualified for a full time appointment.
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We use "Senior Judges" here, which are retired judges who fill in.
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7/24/2017 9:31:36 PM EDT
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Not a judge, a "Traffic Hearing Officer".
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I just reread this and what 103 wrote, that makes sense after looking it up. I do recall him telling someone they have an option of contesting or something along those lines; bringing it up in a higher court I believe.
7/24/2017 9:46:05 PM EDT
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I just reread this and what 103 wrote, that makes sense after looking it up. I do recall him telling someone they have an option of contesting or something along those lines; bringing it up in a higher court I believe.
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I would imagine unless you are in a very sparsely populated county (and a very slow county court) you had a THO.  They can hear all non criminal traffic violations with the exception of a few non criminal traffic violations that require a mandatory appearance before a county judge.