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7/23/2010 9:00:51 AM EDT
When did it become acceptable in journalism and ordinary conversation to refer to police officers as "cops?" It's cop, cop, cop, all the time. The way I was raised it was treated as slang and regarded as generally inappropriate. It was sort of like "niggah" in that if you were a lawman, family member, or otherwise intimate you cou could say it "in house," but it was otherwise very bad form. Nowadays I see lawyers called down every day, in court for using the term.

So is this just an oddity resulting from my realtionships with lawmen, or has the term crept into widespread use without losing its insulting character?
7/23/2010 10:11:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I believe it's an abbreviation from police were called constables hence Constable On Patrol = COP.

 
7/23/2010 10:13:03 AM EDT
[#2]




Quoted:

I believe it's an abbreviation from police were called constables hence Constable On Patrol = COP.


There are still Constables in Texas. They serve papers and shit.
7/23/2010 10:13:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Compared to the Arfcom favorite, JBT, it's pretty mild.  Doesn't bother me.  It's better than 'po-po'.
7/23/2010 10:15:12 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Compared to the Arfcom favorite, JBT, it's pretty mild.  Doesn't bother me.  It's better than 'po-po'.


What does JBT stand for?
7/23/2010 10:16:30 AM EDT
[#5]
I blame Fox
7/23/2010 10:17:13 AM EDT
[#6]




Quoted:



Quoted:

Compared to the Arfcom favorite, JBT, it's pretty mild. Doesn't bother me. It's better than 'po-po'.




What does JBT stand for?
Jack Booted Thug



7/23/2010 10:18:11 AM EDT
[#7]
How long has the show COPS been on air? Twenty-some years?
7/23/2010 10:18:13 AM EDT
[#8]
jack booted thug...dammit beat by exactly 1 minute





and it is better than pig

 
7/23/2010 10:19:40 AM EDT
[#9]
It's Bush's fault
7/23/2010 10:19:51 AM EDT
[#10]
My late father absolutely forbade the use of the word "cop" in reference to a Law Enforcement Officer.

He was not LE and never aspired to be but he was quite adamant that it was a term of disrespect.

He swore it hearkened back to hippies claiming "Policemen weren't worth a copper penny"

If a visitor used the term he treated it the same as cursing.  1 polite warning and then asked to leave.  If I said it I got my mouth washed out and my butt tanned
7/23/2010 10:21:42 AM EDT
[#11]
"Coppers" was an English slang term for their police,supposedly because their badges were made of copper.  It got shortened to "cop".  I don't take offense to it given the laundry list of other stuff we get called daily.  I really want someone to call me a JBT in real life so I can laugh in their face,I would find that hilarious.
7/23/2010 10:22:43 AM EDT
[#12]
It's less offensive than "pigs" or (and this is pretty much a local one) "Mormon Death Squad", though I have heard my cop friends self refer as both..
7/23/2010 10:23:28 AM EDT
[#13]





Quoted:



I believe it's an abbreviation from police were called constables hence Constable On Patrol = COP.  



I bet there are tons of these, but I learned in a NYC History course that Cop came from Coppers. They called them coppers because the uniform had copper buttons.

 






Not really sure if it's right, but both sound plausible...




ETA: I R gud speeler

 
7/23/2010 10:23:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Police aren't demanding of respect more than anyone else. Some are officers, some are cops, and some are pigs. That's determined on an individual basis... just like everyone else.

Besides, I don't see cop as being a deragotory term.
7/23/2010 10:26:08 AM EDT
[#15]
In a similar thought, when did they drop "Peace Officer" for "Law Enforcement Officer"?
7/23/2010 10:29:08 AM EDT
[#16]
Pigs
Heat
Copper
Flatfoot
Bulls
5-O
Fuzz
Barney
Dick
Gumshoe
Johnny Law
Popo
Roller
Jake

Pick another one you like better.
7/23/2010 10:30:07 AM EDT
[#17]
Where did the term "The Fuzz" come from. I've always wondered....
7/23/2010 10:42:29 AM EDT
[#18]
I don't have any problem with the name "Cop", but if they say it in a derogatory means then I will snap at them.  I do have a problem with people not calling me sir or officer or by my last name.  When I'm talking with somebody in uniform I do not want people using my first name unless you are family or close friends.

Cop came from Copper, and since the show "COPS" came on it has been used more and more.  I hear young kids calling us "Hey COPS!!!" Sometimes its annoying but it is better than alot of the other names we are called.  My son is taught Police Officer, Sheriff, Constable, Trooper, and all the other types.  He will be respectful to the badge just like my dad taught me.
7/23/2010 10:44:01 AM EDT
[#19]
The old radios they officers use to use.  They had alot of fuzz.

Same thing with 5.0.  It was the engine type in the old LTDs.
7/23/2010 10:47:53 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I believe it's an abbreviation from police were called constables hence Constable On Patrol = COP.

There are still Constables in Texas. They serve papers and shit.


serve papers my ass.. !


they are some mean sons of bitches when it comes to given out tickets..!

never seen one serve any papers     but i sure as hell do see them hidding all day behind a bush and a radar gun ,


bastards!





7/23/2010 10:50:46 AM EDT
[#21]




Quoted:

Pigs

Heat

Copper

Flatfoot

Bulls

5-O

Fuzz

Barney

Dick

Gumshoe

Johnny Law

Popo

Roller

Jake



Pick another one you like better.



bacon

Fuzz

smokey

Chip

the man



7/23/2010 10:52:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Compared to the Arfcom favorite, JBT, it's pretty mild.  Doesn't bother me.  It's better than 'po-po'.


how about one time or rolo ?
7/23/2010 10:55:43 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Pigs
Heat
Copper
Flatfoot
Bulls
5-O
Fuzz
Barney
Dick
Gumshoe
Johnny Law
Popo
Roller
Jake
MONKEY
Pick another one you like better.


EDIT
7/23/2010 11:00:24 AM EDT
[#24]
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:

Sport, Tiger, Chief, Skip/Skippy, Cowboy, Dude, Guy, Slim, Big Guy, Jack, Boy, Young lady, Champ, Tough Guy, Slick, Stretch, Darlin', Tex, Honey, Little Guy, Sweetheart, Stud, Turbo, Chum, Buckwheat, Bubba, Muchacho, Speedy, Kimo-Sabe, Cheech,  Doc,  Paps, Tulip, Snoop Dog, Scrappy,  Homeslice,  Scooter, Gus,  Corky,  Sparky, Cap'in, Pal,  Friend, Cool, Boss, Hoss, Lil' Camper, Scout, Bub, Missy, Buckaroo, Pilgrim, Mack, Hombre, Doll, Buddy, Bud, Ace, Bucko, Grandma, Gramps, Youngster, Guy, Hotrod,  Governer, Butch, Sugar, Sailor,  Hollywood, Chico, Lucky, Soldier, Zippy,  Flex,  Spunky, Beavis, Timmy, Homeboy, Princess, Hotshot, Comrade, Fella, Partner, Bro/Brah, Professor, Spanky, Amigo, Kid, Kiddo, Junior, Slugger, Son, Sonny, Killer, Sister, Mister, Ol' timer, Hero, Clyde, Rocky, Sunshine, Compadre, Trooper, Barney, Dog, Sherlock, Commander, Einstein, Tuffy, Sports Fan, Trigger, Cupcake, Pumpkin, G, Dawg, Stallion, Smalls.

7/23/2010 11:02:03 AM EDT
[#25]
Cops is the CoC four letter word for them.
























7/23/2010 11:04:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:

Sport
Tiger
Chief
Skip/Skippy
Cowboy
Dude
Guy
Slim
Big Guy
Jack
Boy
Young lady
Champ
Tough Guy
Slick
Stretch
Darlin'
Tex
Honey
Little Guy
Sweetheart
Stud
Turbo
Chum
Buckwheat
Bubba
Muchacho
Speedy
Kimo-Sabe
Cheech
Doc
Paps
Tulip
Snoop Dog
Scrappy
Homeslice
Scooter
Gus
Corky
Sparky
Cap'in
Pal
Friend
Cool
Boss/Hoss
Lil' Camper
Scout
Bub
Missy
Buckaroo
Pilgrim
Mack
Hombre
Doll
Buddy/Bud
Ace
Bucko
Grandma
Gramps
Youngster
Guy
Hotrod
Governer
Butch
Sugar
Sailor
Hollywood
Chico
Lucky
Soldier
Zippy
Flex
Spunky
Beavis
Timmy
Homeboy
Princess
Hotshot
Comrade
Fella
Partner
Bro/Brah
Professor
Spanky
Amigo
Kid/Kiddo
Junior
Slugger
Son/Sonny
Killer
Sister
Mister
Ol' timer
Hero
Clyde
Rocky
Sunshine
Compadre
Trooper
Barney
Dog
Sherlock
Commander
Einstein
Tuffy
Sports Fan
Trigger
Cupcake          
Pumpkin
G
Dawg
Stallion
Smalls



you ok with "studmuffin"?
7/23/2010 11:05:44 AM EDT
[#27]
I thought it came brom badges being made of copper in the old days, police were referred to as coppers because of this then it was shortented to COP.  

I've never really heard of this to be a derogatory slang for police.
7/23/2010 11:07:27 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:


snip



No problem, playa.

7/23/2010 11:11:52 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Pigs
Heat
Copper
Flatfoot
Bulls
5-O
Fuzz
Barney
Dick
Gumshoe
Johnny Law
Popo
Roller
Jake

Pick another one you like better.

bacon
Fuzz
smokey
Chip
the man



Kansas Law Dog!
7/23/2010 11:14:03 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

you ok with "studmuffin"?


I prefer that.

It won't fit on my nametag, though.
7/23/2010 11:14:52 AM EDT
[#31]


Cop = Copper= copper badge


I work with MANY MANY LEOs and 90% of them refer to themselves as COPs.




"You'll never catch me Coppers...meh meh"


7/23/2010 11:16:15 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
In a similar thought, when did they drop "Peace Officer" for "Law Enforcement Officer"?


This would be a much better discussion....


7/23/2010 11:19:33 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
The old radios they officers use to use.  They had alot of fuzz.

Same thing with 5.0.  It was the engine type in the old LTDs.


Nope, From the show Hawaii Five-O  "Book 'em, Danno!"
7/23/2010 11:23:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:

Sport, Tiger, Chief, Skip/Skippy, Cowboy, Dude, Guy, Slim, Big Guy, Jack, Boy, Young lady, Champ, Tough Guy, Slick, Stretch, Darlin', Tex, Honey, Little Guy, Sweetheart, Stud, Turbo, Chum, Buckwheat, Bubba, Muchacho, Speedy, Kimo-Sabe, Cheech,  Doc,  Paps, Tulip, Snoop Dog, Scrappy,  Homeslice,  Scooter, Gus,  Corky,  Sparky, Cap'in, Pal,  Friend, Cool, Boss, Hoss, Lil' Camper, Scout, Bub, Missy, Buckaroo, Pilgrim, Mack, Hombre, Doll, Buddy, Bud, Ace, Bucko, Grandma, Gramps, Youngster, Guy, Hotrod,  Governer, Butch, Sugar, Sailor,  Hollywood, Chico, Lucky, Soldier, Zippy,  Flex,  Spunky, Beavis, Timmy, Homeboy, Princess, Hotshot, Comrade, Fella, Partner, Bro/Brah, Professor, Spanky, Amigo, Kid, Kiddo, Junior, Slugger, Son, Sonny, Killer, Sister, Mister, Ol' timer, Hero, Clyde, Rocky, Sunshine, Compadre, Trooper, Barney, Dog, Sherlock, Commander, Einstein, Tuffy, Sports Fan, Trigger, Cupcake, Pumpkin, G, Dawg, Stallion, Smalls.



So noted........Skippy















7/23/2010 11:26:48 AM EDT
[#35]
Back in the Sir Robert Peel days, they were referred to job-title wise as "Constable On Patrol"  Shortened to "COP"  Add to that that a slang term for the action of Taking or Grabbing was the Verb "to Cop" (cop a feel, cop a walk, cop a plea), and the Constables "Took" people to jail, they were referred to as "Coppers"  IIRC the Copper badge thing was a Myth.
7/23/2010 11:30:16 AM EDT
[#36]
http://www.wisegeek.com/why-are-police-officers-called-cops.htm



Police officers are often referred to as cops, but the word origins of cop are something of a debate.  It is known that up until the 1970s, cop was something of a slang term, and one would refer to cops more properly as policemen, or police officers.  Some argue that the term cop is shortened from "copper" and derives from the tin or copper badges worn by a policeman.  Others say cop is an abbreviation for constabulary of police.  
General consensus on the word origins of cop however suggest that the term is based more on the policeman’s job than on his clothing or job title.  In Latin the verb capere can be defined as "to capture.”  In French, the verb is caper.  "To cop”
in English is to seize or to take.  This defines some of what a police
officer does.  He or she seizes or takes crooks or stops their crime
"capers.”






Some also believe that the Dutch word kapen, which also
loosely translates to "to steal or take,” is related to policemen being
called coppers or cops.  Essentially the police force was there to take
criminals off the streets.  Since the Latin, Dutch and French terms are
all similar, and since American English especially derives language from
German, French and Latin, the specific language origin of kapen or
capere creates a ready path to coppers or cops.





 
7/23/2010 11:37:11 AM EDT
[#37]
So there is no universally accepted basis for the origins of the word and it is OK to use "in house" but it is considered derogatory?



That doesn't seem to make sense honestly, especially since most LE agencies would probably love to be featured on the show "COPS".
7/23/2010 11:41:39 AM EDT
[#38]
Being called a "Cop" doesn't bother me.  The only time I get mad about it's use, is when a parent is with their kid, points at me in uniform and says "Look, it's a cop, you better behave or he'll lock you up".    This happens almost daily.
7/23/2010 11:42:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Being called a "Cop" doesn't bother me.  The only time I get mad about it's use, is when a parent is with their kid, points at me in uniform and says "Look, it's a cop, you better behave or he'll lock you up".    This happens almost daily.


If it makes you feel any better, that has been going on for at least 40 years.
7/23/2010 11:43:47 AM EDT
[#40]





Quoted:





Quoted:


Being called a "Cop" doesn't bother me.  The only time I get mad about it's use, is when a parent is with their kid, points at me in uniform and says "Look, it's a cop, you better behave or he'll lock you up".    This happens almost daily.






If it makes you feel any better, that has been going on for at least 40 years.



I've been dealing with it for about 25 years, lol



Sometimes I wonder how much trouble I would get in if I tell them "If you raise your kids right, I won't have to lock them up"?





 
7/23/2010 11:45:52 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:

Sport, Tiger, Chief, Skip/Skippy, Cowboy, Dude, Guy, Slim, Big Guy, Jack, Boy, Young lady, Champ, Tough Guy, Slick, Stretch, Darlin', Tex, Honey, Little Guy, Sweetheart, Stud, Turbo, Chum, Buckwheat, Bubba, Muchacho, Speedy, Kimo-Sabe, Cheech,  Doc,  Paps, Tulip, Snoop Dog, Scrappy,  Homeslice,  Scooter, Gus,  Corky,  Sparky, Cap'in, Pal,  Friend, Cool, Boss, Hoss, Lil' Camper, Scout, Bub, Missy, Buckaroo, Pilgrim, Mack, Hombre, Doll, Buddy, Bud, Ace, Bucko, Grandma, Gramps, Youngster, Guy, Hotrod,  Governer, Butch, Sugar, Sailor,  Hollywood, Chico, Lucky, Soldier, Zippy,  Flex,  Spunky, Beavis, Timmy, Homeboy, Princess, Hotshot, Comrade, Fella, Partner, Bro/Brah, Professor, Spanky, Amigo, Kid, Kiddo, Junior, Slugger, Son, Sonny, Killer, Sister, Mister, Ol' timer, Hero, Clyde, Rocky, Sunshine, Compadre, Trooper, Barney, Dog, Sherlock, Commander, Einstein, Tuffy, Sports Fan, Trigger, Cupcake, Pumpkin, G, Dawg, Stallion, Smalls.



Dude...that's like, a lot of words, Dog.
7/23/2010 11:56:03 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Being called a "Cop" doesn't bother me.  The only time I get mad about it's use, is when a parent is with their kid, points at me in uniform and says "Look, it's a cop, you better behave or he'll lock you up".    This happens almost daily.


If it makes you feel any better, that has been going on for at least 40 years.

I've been dealing with it for about 25 years, lol

Sometimes I wonder how much trouble I would get in if I tell them "If you raise your kids right, I won't have to lock them up"?
 


I've always wanted to say that but I want to keep my badge.
7/23/2010 11:56:25 AM EDT
[#43]
WHy does it matter as long as you don't use a derogatory name?
7/23/2010 12:02:50 PM EDT
[#44]





Quoted:



WHy does it matter as long as you don't use a derogatory name?



When the complaint is filed, it would fall into the "Conduct On Becoming of an Officer" category.   If the complaint is sustained, it would earn you a unpaid vacation.





 
7/23/2010 12:02:52 PM EDT
[#45]
I say we adopt a new acronym.



Dedicated

Individual

Criminal

Killer





DICK for short.
7/23/2010 12:11:00 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't mind cop, but please don't call me:

Sport, Tiger, Chief, Skip/Skippy, Cowboy, Dude, Guy, Slim, Big Guy, Jack, Boy, Young lady, Champ, Tough Guy, Slick, Stretch, Darlin', Tex, Honey, Little Guy, Sweetheart, Stud, Turbo, Chum, Buckwheat, Bubba, Muchacho, Speedy, Kimo-Sabe, Cheech,  Doc,  Paps, Tulip, Snoop Dog, Scrappy,  Homeslice,  Scooter, Gus,  Corky,  Sparky, Cap'in, Pal,  Friend, Cool, Boss, Hoss, Lil' Camper, Scout, Bub, Missy, Buckaroo, Pilgrim, Mack, Hombre, Doll, Buddy, Bud, Ace, Bucko, Grandma, Gramps, Youngster, Guy, Hotrod,  Governer, Butch, Sugar, Sailor,  Hollywood, Chico, Lucky, Soldier, Zippy,  Flex,  Spunky, Beavis, Timmy, Homeboy, Princess, Hotshot, Comrade, Fella, Partner, Bro/Brah, Professor, Spanky, Amigo, Kid, Kiddo, Junior, Slugger, Son, Sonny, Killer, Sister, Mister, Ol' timer, Hero, Clyde, Rocky, Sunshine, Compadre, Trooper, Barney, Dog, Sherlock, Commander, Einstein, Tuffy, Sports Fan, Trigger, Cupcake, Pumpkin, G, Dawg, Stallion, Smalls.



Dude...that's like, a lot of words, Dog.


yo bleed
7/23/2010 12:13:45 PM EDT
[#47]
That ain't no cops gun Franky.


7/23/2010 12:14:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
"Coppers" was an English slang term for their police,supposedly because their badges were made of copper.  It got shortened to "cop".


This is the way I learned 'cop.'

I've never known it to be a term of disrespect, although I always used 'officer' in court.
7/23/2010 12:17:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
When did it become acceptable in journalism and ordinary conversation to refer to police officers as "cops?" It's cop, cop, cop, all the time. The way I was raised it was treated as slang and regarded as generally inappropriate. It was sort of like "niggah" in that if you were a lawman, family member, or otherwise intimate you cou could say it "in house," but it was otherwise very bad form. Nowadays I see lawyers called down every day, in court for using the term.

So is this just an oddity resulting from my realtionships with lawmen, or has the term crept into widespread use without losing its insulting character?


To guess about the time the released a TV show that has lasted I think 22 seasons now called COPS
7/23/2010 12:20:27 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:





Quoted:

I believe it's an abbreviation from police were called constables hence Constable On Patrol = COP.


There are still Constables in Texas. They serve papers and shit.


Yep my rendition order was delivered by a constable wearing the worst suit jacket I had ever seen.



It was like someone went back in time, found the worst 70's couch ever then made a jacket from it.





 
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