[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Condi (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/8/2004 5:01:13 AM EDT
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The September 11 Commission is fixing to start. Its on CSPAN. www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS |
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The Commission is a joke....., they'll find nothing. [url]http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FD07Aa01.html[/url] excerpt: [blue]Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI wiretap translator, fluent in English, Turkish, Farsi and Azerbaijani and with top-secret security clearance, told Salon news publication that she is nothing but outraged: "Especially after reading Condoleezza Rice where she said, 'we had no specific information whatsoever of domestic threat or that they might use airplanes'. [b]That's an outrageous lie.[/b] And documents can prove it's a lie." Edmonds wants the commission to ask real questions to FBI director Robert Mueller when he testifies later this month: "Like, in April 2001, did an FBI field office receive legitimate information indicating the use of airplanes for an attack on major cities? And is it true that through an FBI informant, who'd been used [by the bureau] for 10 years, did you get information about specific terrorist plans and specific cells in this country? He couldn't say no." Edmonds' recent interviews also raise the fascinating possibility that al-Qaeda penetrated internal security both at the Pentagon and at the State Department. In this case, are the moles still in place?[/blue] and Part 2 here: [url] http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FD08Aa01.html[/url] excerpt: [blue][b]Conclusion[/b] The Karl Rove-designed campaign to re-elect Bush is in essence anchored on September 11. The Republican convention in New York will happen in the first week of September. Bush's speech will be on September 2 - to force the connection with the three-year commemoration of September 11. This whole affair is not about whether Clarke committed "perjury"; whether Rice was really up to her job; or whether George W Bush knew something and then "forgot" about it. The families of September 11 victims, US public opinion, the demonized Islamic world, the whole world for that matter, all everybody wants to know is what really happened on September 11. The only party that does not seem interested in getting to the bottom of it is the Bush administration. The official fable of 19 kamikaze Arabs turning Boeings into missiles with military precision, armed only with box cutters and a few flight lessons and directed from an Afghan cave by a satellite phone-shy bin Laden simply does not hold. The commission is not asking the really hard questions. Here are just a few - and they are far from being the most embarrassing. 1) The "stand down" order: Why, despite more than an hour's warning that an attack was happening, were no F-16s protecting US airspace? Documents easily available online reveal why the Pentagon could not act: because of bureaucracy. Why did the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) claim it took 25 minutes after the transponder was shut down to learn that Flight 11 - which hit World Trade Center Tower 1 - was hijacked? Why did fighters not take off from Andrews Air Force base just outside Washington to protect the Pentagon? 2) The pre-September 11 suspicious stock option trades in American Airlines and United Airlines were never fully investigated. Who profited? 3) What happened to the FBI investigation into flight schools - when it was proved that at least five of the 19 hijackers were trained in US military schools? 4) Why did Bush keep reading a pet-goat story for more than half an hour after the first WTC hit, and 15 minutes after Chief of Staff Andrew Card told him there had been an attack? 5) What really happened to Flight 93? An Associated Press story last August quoting a congressional report said the FBI suspected the plane was crashed on purpose. The FBI has a flight-simulation video of what happened: the video - as well as the black box - remain top secret. And as far as four "indestructible" black boxes are concerned, how come none were found, unlike Mohammed Atta's intact passport lying in the WTC rubble? 6) Why have no scientific experts examined the physical and mathematical evidence that a Boeing 757 could not have possibly "disappeared" without a trace after hitting the Pentagon? For the most exhaustive and practically incontrovertible analysis available on the net, see this report. 7) What remains of the very tight 1980s bin Laden-ISI-CIA connection? How much did the CIA know about what the ISI was up to? And how much did the ISI know about what al-Qaeda was up to? 8) What does Rice really know about the very close relations between Mahmoud and the top echelons of the Bush administration? The genie - the crucial information - is still in the bottle. (Copyright 2004 Asia Times Online Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact [email protected] for information on our sales and syndication policies.)[/blue] Mike |
| She is one great lady. She is one of the very few "political types" that I have absolute respect for, and trust implicitly. Very excellent cabinet choice--and I hope she does go further. She's also one of the very few that I would vote for to be President, with ZERO hesitation. She would NOT be the "lesser of two evils." That means she hasn't got a chance. [:(] |
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Quoted: She is one great lady. She is one of the very few "political types" that I have absolute respect for, and trust implicitly. Very excellent cabinet choice--and I hope she does go further. She's also one of the very few that I would vote for to be President, with ZERO hesitation. She would NOT be the "lesser of two evils." That means she hasn't got a chance. [:(] That pretty much sums up how I feel about her. And the most attrative thing about Condi is her mind. You would think with the kind of money she makes, plus the .gov health plan, she could get that gap in her teeth fixed. That alone would help her looks a lot. |
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Quoted: You are watching the first female presidentof the Untied States....[b]Dr.[/b] Condaleeza Rice If she ever ran for president, I would support her. However, as always, I'm suspicious of any politician's claims of support for the Second AMendment, though in Rice's own words she's a "Second Amendment Absolutist" |
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[B]Yes, Condi for prez, please.[/B] Let's tap on the brakes here a minute guys. What is her stand on the 2nd amendment and say abortion, affirmative action, open borders, the economy,etc. Some thought Collin Powell would be a good choice too but politically he seems to be a RHINO. She may indeed be a good future choice but lets not bless her with the nomination till we learn a little more. |
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Quoted: [B]Yes, Condi for prez, please.[/B] Let's tap on the brakes here a minute guys. What is her stand on the 2nd amendment and say abortion, affirmative action, open borders, the economy,etc. Some thought Collin Powell would be a good choice too but politically he seems to be a RHINO. She may indeed be a good future choice but lets not bless her with the nomination till we learn a little more. Good point. I read a short interview with her a couple of years ago. She was recalled, as a child, the time(s) her dad and neighbors took up their shotguns (and rifles too?) to defend their neighborhood from the local KKK. I would hazard she learned the importance of the Second Amendment at the sharp end of the stick. |
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Quoted: She is one great lady. She is one of the very few "political types" that I have absolute respect for, and trust implicitly. Very excellent cabinet choice--and I hope she does go further. She's also one of the very few that I would vote for to be President, with ZERO hesitation. She would NOT be the "lesser of two evils." That means she hasn't got a chance. [:(] TBK1, this time it's my turn to say you read MY mind, with the exception of the last sentence. I think she does have a chance. A VERY good chance. Just the fact she would be running would turn the left into such absolute fools that it would be comic. My concern is that, based on the little I've been able to listen to on the go (Benveniste and some other bitch (Feinstein?) on now at 1030 ET), is that the questions are being spun to make her look REALLY bad (not a big surprise), but also that the Left has apparently brought along a cheering section that has not been told to STFU yet. Appearances are everything. Substance, regrettably, means little. She is ALL substance, and I, too, would vote for her, based on what I know now, without hesitation. ETA: She would rip Hillary to shreds in an almost shameful manner, and would completely atomize John F'n Kerry. As much as I ADORE Dick Cheney, I think he should step aside and let Condi into the slot, because it would set her up for 2008 perfectly. I fear that, despite his absolute brilliance and incredible demeanor, Dick Cheney is unelectable because not enough of the idiots in the center would vote for him. What a waste of fine talent! [:(] |
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Quoted: jesus, bob kerrey is a major league asshole! he's obviously trying to politicize this, its shameful I almost started a thread on this fact. At the beginning of his time, when he was so complimentary about "what you have accomplished in your life"--I knew he was setting her up for major "prickdom." Asshole! [pissed] |
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Quoted: Quoted: She is one great lady. She is one of the very few "political types" that I have absolute respect for, and trust implicitly. Very excellent cabinet choice--and I hope she does go further. She's also one of the very few that I would vote for to be President, with ZERO hesitation. She would NOT be the "lesser of two evils." That means she hasn't got a chance. [:(] That pretty much sums up how I feel about her. And the most attrative thing about Condi is her mind. You would think with the kind of money she makes, plus the .gov health plan, she could get that gap in her teeth fixed. That alone would help her looks a lot. I agree with all of the above except for the gap remark. I find it attractive. Don't know why, but I just do. |
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Quoted: Quoted: ..........the Left has apparently brought along a cheering section that has not been told to STFU yet........ Yeah, that's starting to piss me off! And what's with these yes and no questions? This is a fucking Joke! Me too. I was listening on the radio this morning and the asshole would try to ask one question, but mix about 5 others in there. There were no clear-cut 'Yes or No' questions. And whenever she would try to answer, he would cut her off saying to answer yes or no. What a dipshit. Sometimes an answer needs a little 'history' behind it before it could truly be answered correctly and to make the questioner understand the answer. |
| This is what I would like to happen, If Bush wins with Cheney. About a year later, have Cheney resign for health reasons. Than have Bush appoint Rice as his new VP. Than she would be right in-line to smack that Klinton bitch in 2008. It could work, she would have the black vote and a good share of the women. |
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I think Condi Rice just laid a bitch slap on Richard Clark, they agreed on a few things, but when she said that Richard Clark never requested to give the President his vital information to her, man that kinda throws a wrench in his testimony. Why would you not got to the one person the President is sure to go to for advice? I think Condi is gonna save the 2004 election for us. Bush/Rice 2004 Rice/???? 2008-2012 |
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I'm listening to the excerpts on Rush's show. Even if you take into account the possibility that Rush is selecting quotes that make her look good, it is quite clear that my earlier impression was wrong (no surprise - I'm terrible at gauging these things). Apparently, she really handed the libs their asses on a plate! Way to go Condi! [beer] I loved this woman from the first instant I saw her. I'm glad I was RIGHT on that account! [:D] ETA: Is it just me, or does this woman just [b][i]exude[/i] "DON'T FUCK WITH ME!"[/b]? [img]http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/Rice_911panel3.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.foxnews.com/images/121863/19_2_040804_rice3_911.jpg[/img] I don't know about you, but I would [b][i]NOT[/i][/b] want to have this woman pissed at me, especially in the position I hope she one day holds: the [i]Presidency[/i]. |
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Quoted: I agree with all of the above except for the gap remark. I find it attractive. Don't know why, but I just do. It does give her a "down-to-earth" look. Which, of course, is missing in most politicos. I make some fun of her teeth, but they say a whole lot about her. Like, she's into substance not fluff. Something else that's strange to politicos. You're right Zaphod. She would be one President you would not want pissed at you. Sorta' our version of Margaret "The Iron Maiden" Thatcher. What's not to love. [:D] |
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Quoted: Interesting hearing a bunch of white males singing the praises of a black woman to the highest decibel. Very interesting observation. BTW, this WASP says "Condi, 2008!" or SCOTUS. Hey! There's a slogan in there somewhere... "WASPS love Rice!" Interesting indeed. I've been accused on this board of "spewing woman-hating bullshit." It was silly then, and silly now, but nevertheless the accusation was made. Dr. Rice just exudes qualities that bespeak of a depth and dignity rarely held by the vast majority of people--men or women. She is a class act. Period. |
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Quoted: She is the key to President Bush re-election. Because of that jerk Dick Clark, she will sway black votes toward President Bush. If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. I've heard numerous blacks call her an uncle tom. Sad, really, for people to be SO stupid. |
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[b]The Bush White House has taken many steps, including enacting the USA Patriot Act, Rice said, to better protect the homeland. [red]"We have to be right 100 percent of the time. They [terrorists] only have to be right once,"[/red] she said.[/b] There are about 150 million sheeple in this country that need to understand that statement. Go Condi! CMOS |
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Quoted: Interesting indeed. I've been accused on this board of "spewing woman-hating bullshit." It was silly then, and silly now, but nevertheless the accusation was made. Dr. Rice just exudes qualities that bespeak of a depth and dignity rarely held by the vast majority of people--men or women. She is a class act. Period. Wow! You're right! We DO think alike! [:D] Amen, brother! |
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Condi is the 'real thing',she don't have to suck ass or lay down for anybody.The Lady is a PROFESSIONAL.Anyone who can go into a rattlesnake nest like that,kick lying liberal ass,take names(kommie kerry)and come out smelling like a fresh rose,has my nod.That is one tough,smart"I did my fucking homework" woman.Glad she is in our corner. She sure makes the "What happened to the dumb nigger bitch?"liberals look just like what they are...a bunch of 'massas' who come to kick some dumb weepy broads ass an went home cryin,without their dorks.Fuck 'em.Condi rules. Condi knows what having firearms in the house means to the average folks in the real world.It means you can say NO to someone/anyone trying to subujugate you.This is what is meant by homeland defense. |
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Quoted: Condi is the 'real thing',she don't have to suck ass or lay down for anybody.The Lady is a PROFESSIONAL.Anyone who can go into a rattlesnake nest like that,kick lying liberal ass,take names(kommie kerry)and come out smelling like a fresh rose,has my nod.That is one tough,smart"I did my fucking homework" woman.Glad she is in our corner. She sure makes the "What happened to the dumb nigger bitch?"liberals look just like what they are...a bunch of 'massas' who come to kick some dumb weepy broads ass an went home cryin,without their dorks.Fuck 'em.Condi rules. Condi knows what having firearms in the house means to the average folks in the real world.It means you can say NO to someone/anyone trying to subujugate you.This is what is meant by homeland defense. It's becoming a little bit clear why she didn't want to testify. Condi could of been doing more important things, like her job, instead of kicking thier asses at the 9/11 Commission. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Missed the name of the 2nd guy, but the big dick was pissing both she and I off. Saw part of it, only Condi going one on one with the evil Dick Clark. Saw she was owning him...so watching it wasn't necessary. The actually had Clark & Condi in their together? BTW, I'm another white male who would vote for Condi. And I'm a big fan of Clarance Thomas as well--one of the best all time Supreme Court justices. |
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I give her a TON of credit... (admission) I didn't know her from anyone before she was appointed by Bush... honestly I was afraid it was a ploy to get minority votes. She has distinguished herself as the real deal... She is smart, dignified, and a [i]lady[/i] I would not mind sharing conversation with. Good for her. jim |
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That whole panel is nothing but a waste of time. It doesn't matter what she has to say, she'll always be demonized by the liberals. Look at the poll on the frontpage of [url]http://www.sfgate.com[/url]. There's all the proof you need, that people are closed minded, and couldn't care less what she has to say. |