Posted: 7/31/2006 5:05:13 PM EDT
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Any Fathers here running a buisness and owe Child support,I am starting my own buisness and need to open a bank account to keep track of the cash flow..etc..etc. Everytime I have opened a savings or regular account...... if you've been there you know what happens. I'm off to the Child Support Division wensday to see what I can do. But I sure could use some advice from anyone that has dealt with this. TIA. |
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I think you need to lawyer up. I take it your primary objective is to protect the operating cash of the business so you can keep it open? A lawyer will better know the details for how to make this work. First suggestion is to make sure the account has the business name listed and the business' tax ID instead of your SSN. This may or may not help with seizure. At some point a paper trail will come back to you no matter what. The other thing that would make it easy is to try and work out an amicable payment plan to get caught up child support and otherwise avoid account seizure issues. |
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If you're looking for a reduction, you need a lawyer for that, don't you? Even if you're just trying to figure out the collection part, a family law attorney could help you there, too. If you're having any visitation blockages, keep good written records of any shenannigans -date, time of any calls, visits, etc. That doesn't change your obligation, though - the interference is another issue. Same for any problem with the kid(s) living conditions or evidence that the support is being spent for the other parent's personal entertainment rather than for the kids. That said, I don't think a lot of judges are interested in picking through how every payment was spent, and rightfully so. For instance, the other parent probably pays auto insurance. The kid(s) need to be hauled around, so that's indirectly supporting them. You really need to be more expository about what you're looking to find out. And frankly, though there are some good attorneys on the board, this is a place where you'll also get A LOT OF LOUSY ADVICE FROM NON-ATTORNEYS!!! 
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I have a novel idea ----------- PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT!!!!!! That money is to take care of a child you created and yet you are looking at ways to hide your assets and not pay for taking care of your flesh and blood child... Just remember, food, clothes, and all the other neccesites are bought with money and that money comes from child support and if you are not paying your child support then you are directly taking food and other necessities right out of your childs mouth. I hope the state takes all your assets, revokes your business license, revokes your drivers license, and anything else they can do all the way up to throwing your ass in jail cause i'm sick and tired of people who pop out kids and then dont think they have to support them. If anyone wants to flame me thats fine but that just shows how everyone is quick to make kids and then expects the state instead of THEM to pay for them which directly costs me money right out of my check.... thats right, by YOU not paying child support the damn govt takes more moeny out of my check, to pay for your damn kids!!! oh and BTW, i dont even have any kids but i'm sick of deadbeat parents who arent responsible and i'm left to foot the bill. Hopefully the state catches up with you as i'm sure they will!!!! |
You don't have any facts, so your presumptive remarks aren't even WORTHY of a flame, more like a  on YOU.
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Here's another novel idea . You open a business and get divorced . Then have some court appointed accountant look over 90 days of banking history and decide that you can afford $4700 a month !!!!!! Then you can go back to court 6 times trying to prove that the accountant was a retard because there are some months where you're not even making $3000 a month in net profit ...... Oh and you still have to pay the $4700 while you're fighting it for a year  _______________________________________________________________________ My advice to the original poster is to work it all out before you go to court , Owning a business usually involves seasonal highs and lows . You need at least 3 years worth of records to get a decent average of profits . Since you don't have 3 years of records you need to get it written into the agreement what percentage you need to pay PER MONTH based on the numbers generated !! All I can say is , Good Luck
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Hey AZBrew, Wow.........just fucking WOW........!!! And for ALL.I'm not trying to get out of anything.I pay out the ass as it is .I am talking about going from employee to employer...owning your own buisness and taking the step from relying on a company check to hoping the fucking phone rings and you can support your family and how the system works in regards to what percentage they take and how to keep a bank account that isn't siezed. The Ultimate goal is to pay off the past and move on to better things. And if you don't know anything (AZBREW) cause your scenario does'nt apply.Shut the FUCK UP and spend more time at the range. |
Not in my state . My biz was opened as an LLC and I wasn't even drawing a salary . I was deferring it back into building the biz and living off an expense account . The laws vary by state , but from what I've been told . None are too friendly when ANY business is involved . |
I have a novei idea----------LEARN THE FACTS!!!!!!! My wife met a new guy and moved out while I was at work, next time I saw her she was preggers again. about 15 months after that I got a letter from her wanting child support so we set up an agreement between us. After a year she wanted more so she took me to court (Judge said I was over paying and reduced). anyway, not to long ago I ran into the putz she left me for, she did the same to him and is on her 3rd kid by 3 differnt guys. My point, she has kids, gets tierd of the relationship and leaves, I should not have to pay (I do and would make the payments tho) anything, she left and took my daughter, I DID NOT LEAVE HER. The system needs to be alot more fair. one more thing, I'm sick and tired of assholes like you who think you know everybodys situation to the point you can decide their fate, grow up, get a life and find out whats what before passing judgement. |
And if that is impossible, then what? In the last case I got drug into the father was ordered to pay more than his net pay. There was no way he could pay it even if he didn't spend a penny on food or housing. This was for a kid that wasn't even his. The poor guy married my niece and she had a child with another father while they were married. She's a nice and honest person otherwise, but when in court she turned into a lying demon. Maybe you should ask about the situation before jumping to conclusions.z |
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When it comes to CS I would rather move to another country than deal with that crap. The .gov idiots are too much for my heart to handle. They have never heard of the term common sense. CS is second only to the IRS in who can ruin your world. Again I would move to another country before going though their crap. |
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A little story. You see I raised two children not of my blood. The natural sperm donor had no desire to truly know the children, or support them. My children suffered for this. They knew they where sired by another. One that didn't even send birthday cards. I was there. Anyone who does not support the children they brought into the world is the most craven of cowards. Make excuses all you like. Hide behind all injustices that you have heard of. Understand that those same children, when they mature will recognize you for what you are. At least mine did. Get off the high horse. Stand with your feet firmly planted on the ground, look into that small face with trusting eyes, and do the right thing. |
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I am gonna assume they have attached your wages. Go to court, with an attorney. BTDT. The system is in dire need of overhaul, the powers that be know this but domestic relations is at the very bottom of the legal list of things to do in the grand scheme of things. |
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I don;t have time now but I have a horror story. Anyone who believes the system is fair or who spouts off on it's your obligation without knowing the facts has a thing or two to learn. $30K in legal fees just to enforce visitation. Never missed a CS payment (in fact I'm ahead but that;s a whole different level of BS). Bomber |
DUDE GET A LIFE!!!! I'm sick of people like you whom only see words like father,child support,and something to do with money automatically jump on their moral podium talking smack about something they don't have all the info on. From the ideas behind some of your words i can understand why you were probably banned from the democratic underground but now that you are here please read everything before you preach. example: show me a deadbeat dad that is voluntarily going down to the c/s office to discuss the matter and i will show you a virgin dancing in a titty bar! |
Do you realize that almost nothing you suggested actually helps the children involved? My wife's ex, the father of my three step-daughters, is over $90,000 behind in child support. The state took his driver's license. He lost his job and couldn't even send the tiny amount he had been sending. It also made the rare visits the girls were receiving from their (biological) father even rarer. Yes, we would like for him to pay child-support, but taking away his driver's license and other suggestions haven't helped. On the other side. I recently caught up on my own child-support payments for my son. You can't imagine how frustrating it was to lose my house to foreclosure at the same time my ex was scheduling a cruise to the Bahamas and griiping about me being behind on support. For the original poster: If you can, lawyer up. If not, some states have forms on-line that allow you to do quite a bit on your own. My ex and I just renegotiated new child-support obligations and new visitation guidelines and filed all the paperwork ourselves. Cost me 0$ in lawyer fees. |
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Child support is a touchy issue with me. You see, I have paid my support faithfully since 2000. I have watched my ex build a new home, buy expensive jewelry, and buy a new SUV while I have to scrimp and save just to be able to go to the range. I have to drive an old truck and am living in a mobile home. Yuck. There is never enough money to make ends meet. Due to the stress of all of this I have developed high blood pressure and now have to take meds daily. If the kids were benefiting from the money I would have no problem. The problem is that my children were left to their own devices. There was/is no parental supervision. I have tried in vain to fight this in court but they always side with the ex and nothing is done. Fuck social services and fuck the court system. Thank God I only have 3 more years of support to go. Sorry for the rant but it is a touchy subject. |
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Since everyone else is chiming in.. I guess I'd better. I ran a Father's rights/Men's rights group for about 10 years. Most men don't have a clue about nor do they care father's Rights/Men's rights. Those who scream "Pay Your Support" the loudest don't have a clue and deserve to have the worst of the Family Support act of 1988 visited upon them, they will then be the first to belly up to the bar and whine about why nobody fixed the problem before their life and their children's lives were destroyed.  |
I've heard this story more than once, and I believe it. I've only been divorced for a couple of weeks, but I've been paying my ex-wife support for a couple of months now. We didn't use lawyers. We filed the paperwork ourselves and we agreed on ALL the terms. The social workers tried to make her think that she had to go through the Child Support Enforcement Division, but in my state if you both agree on the terms you do not have to do that. I told her that I'd be happy to write her checks all day long, but I'll be DAMNED if I cut a single check to the State. They deduct fees. They don't give a damn about the kids, just keeping their empire going. So we ironed that out and now I just have the money from my check direct-deposited into hers on that same day. She never has to ask for money that way, and I don't have to cut checks. It works well for us. But we are BOTH being adults about it SO FAR and we both are just wanting to make sure that our kids come first. In fact, we treat each other better now and are a little closer to being friends -- which we never were in 18 years together. But I've known people who've been through this where one of the parties was total scum and just used the kids for money and power. They took their child support and spent it all on themselves and the kids suffered. Yeah, people should pay their child support, but the parent who receives it should damn well make sure their kids are taken care of. If they do NOT do that, then it wouldn't matter if they got a million bucks in child support... little or none of it would end-up benefiting the children. I have NO use for selfish parents like that. And when some poor guy is barely making it while the ex-wife is taking vacations and living the high life... that's just CRAP! 
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Are all your ideas are this intelligent(or as lacking)? I hope you end up paying for someone elses kid too. If you or go LLC or get Inc., isan't the business seperate from your personal accounts, aslong as you don't interchange the two when buying things for yourself or business? |