Posted: 9/14/2008 5:27:56 PM EDT
Here's a quote from his post: 
My hat's off to him for putting together such a comprehensive kit but I have to wonder if he is insane or just plain stupid. |
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How did he get the Morphine? Edit: I scrolled down further, more WTF
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Owning all of it is great if you know how to use it. He admits that he doesn't know how to use most of it. I'd be willing to bet that he doesn't even know how to use as much as he thinks he does. Maybe he's hoping that someone who does know how to use it will show up. |
He says later on it's a sort of sustainability pack for his neighborhood, but I still can't see how he got all the controlled stuff prescribe to him, like he says. |
Something like half of his BoB, but that's probably because his BoB has two full spare tires and a few gallons of gas or something like that. |
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Morphine? Seriously? WTF? Not the mention the damn Cric kit, ET tubes and laryngoscope with miller and mac blades. Whole damn IV setup. Hell he only needs a few more meds and a monitor and this douche could work a code. Sad part is his kit is laid out and better stocked than any of the ones in my department. Damn tackle boxes lol. |
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I think you'd need a month, drilling with that pack for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, to really know where everything is. So where's the fold-up operating table and collapsible operating light?  Does it have optional kits for knee and elbow replacement surgery?  Heck, does it have a heart transplant kit and full suite of CICU life support equipment, plus respiratory therapy equipment? How about a fold-up physical therapy/rehab suite? Pocket gym, anyone? CJ |
| Sad thing is that he has all of the gear and doesn't know how to use most of it. If he doesn't know how to use a pulse-ox then what the hell is he doing with intubation and airway equipment. Not to mention all of the drugs that he has that he probably has no clue on dosages. He could seriously hurt someone worse by trying to help.hair.gif |
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I carried a lot of stuff as a new EMT many years ago (Jeez - has it really been that long?), including some items that were well outside my scope of practice at the time. That said, I'd at least received training on indications, contraindications, and proper use, kept them buried deep in my "worst" case, and didn't blab about them on teh intarweb. Sounds like the guy who posted a CLS kit for sale in the EE a few months back... including morphine styrettes.    I let the nice mods over there know that those should probably not be listed here, nor sold without Rx.
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well, to say he is insane or stupid is wrong, when he could have a competent medical professional close at hand that lacks the proper tools. Granted the knowledge needed for some of his equipment is vast and requires practice to be good, not having anything would suck worse than giving it a try. I don't think "most" of it is too hard to figure out, some of it is though. |
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The guy says in his post that he has several doctors and people with training to use this stuff close by. If he has the money to buy it all I see no problem with him having this lit, especially if he lets the ER doc next door know about it. If anything goes down in the neighborhood, it sounds like they will be pretty well off. Just a ? How much would a kit that comprehensive cost? It looks like something like that could run well into the thousands. |
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Damn! The man has some serious funds tied up in that bag. Kudos for how well he has it organized but I would be leery of the controlled drugs. I've got a Blackhawk Stomp II that is pretty full, but not like that (course I know how to use everything in it and have it paired down to what I need and what I can improvise with- no controlled drugs in mine though, I don't feel like getting raped in prison).
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My wife got most of that prescribed to her as she fought cancer. We were trying to find one that could be managed by anti-nausea meds and still suppress her pain well. Maybe he had a similar illness. |
It is easy, I bought some not long ago. Although a potential felony pop may make the idea of buying it for a FAK a little bit less than a good idea. He better have some good prescrips if he wants to carry all that around. The morphine isn't anything compared to the Oxycodone in there. That stuff is way popular on the street here. Joe |
I'm not up on all of the DEA/FDA regs but I'm pretty sure that perscriptions only make possession of such drugs legal within the circumstances that they are perscribed for. For example, IV morphine perscribed for pain control due to colon cancer is not intended to be put into a FAK for later use on trauma patients. I'd be amazed if he found a doctor willing to risk his DEA number so that this guy could have narcotics that he isn't qualified to dispense. |
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If he actually knew what he was doing I wouldn't have any problem with that stuff. The narcotics are still highly illegal for him to have, and if he got caught with them that would be BAD. The problem is, he DOESNT know how to use them. I went to school for 2 years before they would let me play with some of that stuff. Things like intubating and starting IVs are perishable skills that need constant practice. I would guess the guy has never started an IV or intubated, even on a practice dummy. I'm a paramedic and I wouldn't carry half that stuff on my own because the big red box will show up before I got a chance to use that stuff in an off duty situation, and in the case the big red truck won't, most of that stuff is only a short term solution anyway. Plus the liability on using that stuff is HUGE, because somehow I doubt that Good Samaritan laws will cover him if he tries to use that stuff. |
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Unless you are really remote or outside normal EMS areas, WTF? Might be a good ALS kit in a forward combat or remote area. I have never seen morphine or Oxy in a personal kit and we all know some real wanna bees. Screams illegal and when someone gets jammed up, he's done for. Just trying to help sorry about the OD What's he going to do once he gets a tube in? No bag valve mask or vent???? That patient doesn't need any teeth anyway.  Where is his O2 and Monitor? No Defib? You can stick a Heartsaver on there somewhere!!
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