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AR15.COM
8/27/2006 2:40:42 PM EDT
The thread about red-light-runner cameras ticketing city employees made me wonder about this.

This may vary from state to state, and certainly from city to city, but WTF are there cameras (NOT red-light-running cameras) at every damned intersection?  Above each direction of travel, both ways, all four sides.  And usually one underneath the traffic light post that is a rotational camera.

WTF are all the cameras for??????????

ETA:  I call BS for 'traffic accidents'.  Plenty of people have cell phones.  I don't buy that reason.
8/27/2006 7:21:06 PM EDT
[#1]
btt
anyone?
8/27/2006 7:24:34 PM EDT
[#2]
flow optimization.  Supposedly the engineers watch the intersections and give longer greens to lanes that start to back up.
8/27/2006 7:25:24 PM EDT
[#3]
opticom system, allows fire department to change the lights with a strobing light box set to a specific frequency
8/27/2006 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
flow optimization.  Supposedly the engineers watch the intersections and give longer greens to lanes that start to back up.


That is what the Gubmint wants you to think...........runs out ot buy more tinfoil.



Quoted:
opticom system, allows fire department to change the lights with a strobing light box.


No, he is talking about cameras.
8/27/2006 7:40:06 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:


WTF are all the cameras for??????????





To generate revenue.




Vulcan94
8/27/2006 7:49:24 PM EDT
[#6]
incrementalism.(sp?) to get you used to the idea of being watched. in every move you make.

look at europe, they're being watched in every place except their own house, and only on the inside at that!.
8/27/2006 8:18:07 PM EDT
[#7]
It's just a matter of time until they know where we are all of the time.... It's for our safety and the childrens safety of course.
8/27/2006 8:26:58 PM EDT
[#8]
It's only a matter of time when we get RFID tags implanted. Then they won't need the cameras.
8/27/2006 8:28:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Those cameras "see" approaching traffic and change the lights accordingly, instead of sensors in the pavement.
8/27/2006 8:34:18 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
flow optimization.  Supposedly the engineers watch the intersections and give longer greens to lanes that start to back up.


That is what the Gubmint wants you to think...........runs out ot buy more tinfoil.



Quoted:
opticom system, allows fire department to change the lights with a strobing light box.


No, he is talking about cameras.


No he's probably talking about the opticon system,which look kind of like cameras,  there really aren't all that many cameras in most areas.

I'm for the cameras to eliminate more of the idiots on the road.  I just came home and some bozo ran a red light right in front of me.  The police car sitting next to me, took it from there.
8/27/2006 8:35:57 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
incrementalism.(sp?) to get you used to the idea of being watched. in every move you make.

look at europe, they're being watched in every place except their own house, and only on the inside at that!.


So does this mean you want to eliminate all patrol units. After all they might see what you do and you don't get to know where they are all the time.  That's even more unfair???
8/27/2006 8:48:34 PM EDT
[#12]
The tiny little cameras are low-rez traffic control cameras.  Instead of induction sensors under the pavement, they use cameras to detect the presence of cars, so the traffic lights know when to change.  You may notice that sometimes that a light won't turn yellow until the last car in a stack gets through the intersection, and that it will extend the yellow for a while.  That's the traffic control software using the camera input to adjust the lights.

This is different from the Opticom system, which uses strobes on emergency vehicles to force the system to switch to green, allowing the emergency vehicles a clear path.

-Troy
8/27/2006 8:57:06 PM EDT
[#13]
I have a problem with them.

For at least 10 years now, software has been available to police depts and god knows who else that will log/process over 3,000 license plates per hour. That's a little too Orwellian for me. That, and you don't need cameras facing right at the windshield of every side of an intersection to control traffic. Nor, do you need a "traffic" camera that points right at the POL (petrolium, oil, and lubricants, aka gas, diesel and jet fuel) tank farm just outside Detroit Metro Airport along I94.

If they aren't being abused yet, they will.