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Posted: 3/16/2006 8:00:02 PM EST
History reveals nations can be conquered by the use of one or more of three methods.

The most common is conquest by war. In time, though, this method usually fails, because the captives hate the captors and rise up and drive them out if they can. Much force is needed to maintain control, making it expensive for the conquering nation.

A second method is by religion, where men are convinced they must give their captors part of their earnings as "obedience to God." Such a captivity is vulnerable to philosophical exposure or by overthrow by armed force, since religion by its nature lacks military force to regain control, once its captives become "disillusioned".

The third method can be called economic conquest. It takes place when nations are placed under "tribute" without the use of visible force or coercion, so that the victims do not realize they have been conquered. "Tribute" is collected from them in the form of "legal" debts and taxes, and they believe they are paying it for their own good, for the good of others, or to protect all from some enemy. Their captors become their "benefactors" and "protectors".

Although this is the slowest to impose. It is often quite long lasting, as the captives do not see any military force arrayed against them, their religion is left more or less intact, they have freedom to speak and travel, and they participate in "elections" for their rulers. Without realizing it, they are conquered, and the instruments of their own society are used to transfer their wealth to their captors and make the conquest complete.

So, are were being "conquered" by our Debt, and deficits combined???......number 1&2 doesn't really apply, I don't think.......
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 8:08:28 PM EST
What about being overrun with immigrants of the illegal kind?
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 8:14:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
What about being overrun with immigrants of the illegal kind?

That was my first thought.

For nearly all of human history - when one tribe or group or nation wanted to take over the territory and treasures of another, they FIRST sent their warriors or army to do battle.

Well, welcome to the NEW way of conquering a nation and moving your people into their land - forget about ever needing an army or military, just send in unarmed men, women and children by the thousands every day!

Only a "cold-hearted" nation would want to fight or block thousands of poor unarmed people from flooding in and TAKING our terrority, right?

Make no mistake, this is an invasion of our nation! Almost 10,000 invaders every day! Only they don't need tanks, artillery and infantry to first clear the way - they just skip the "war" part and just send over thousands of huddling families who then STEAL living space, social services and entry-level jobs from our citizens and then they have idiots in our country and our government who cry and bend over backwards for them and undercut OUR effort to protect our nation from being flooded over with ILLEGAL foreign invaders.

What would we do if these invaders were ARMED and wearing MILITARY UNIFORMS coming across the border and DEMANDING that you accept them, house them, educate them, pay for their family's medical care and we communicate to them in THEIR native language!? Who needs an army to take over America when so many fools here are willing to just GIVE away their land, jobs, money and country to foreigners illegally flooding in?
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 8:40:56 PM EST

So, are were being "conquered" by our Debt, and deficits combined???......number 1&2 doesn't really apply, I don't think.......

Yep. Fortunately for us, the debt is not controlled by a single country. But, the countries that do hold a large portion of our debt can control us like puppet masters.. If I was president, I would cut descressionary spending to $0 and take all of that money and pay down the debt. After the debt was paid of, then we could start a new with a balanced budget. I believe that Clinton was the last president that stood a chance of reducing the debt. Now it will just keep running up and up until the buble bursts.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 8:53:44 PM EST
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