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Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Tell me, oh wise one, did these judges also assign seats, and in which room? Because we're all full. Sorry. You and the whole “xxx news organization isn’t listed in the constitution!!!!” crowd are just bypassing the point he’s making. Yes the WH can “assign seating” based on capacity and logistical needs. They can’t revoke it “over fake news” which is what is happening here. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: You and the whole "xxx news organization isn't listed in the constitution!!!!" crowd are just bypassing the point he's making. Yes the WH can "assign seating" based on capacity and logistical needs. They can't revoke it "over fake news" which is what is happening here. Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Tell me, oh wise one, did these judges also assign seats, and in which room? Because we're all full. Sorry. You and the whole "xxx news organization isn't listed in the constitution!!!!" crowd are just bypassing the point he's making. Yes the WH can "assign seating" based on capacity and logistical needs. They can't revoke it "over fake news" which is what is happening here. You don't think he 'could have said 'sorry, the room is full'? It's fun to watch how easily he slips a bur under so many saddles. |
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Originally Posted By Dirtydog: And you guys (NTs) are taking this whole thing too seriously. You really think T doesn't have access to legal advice? You don't think he 'could have said 'sorry, the room is full'? It's fun to watch how easily he slips a bur under so many saddles. Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Tell me, oh wise one, did these judges also assign seats, and in which room? Because we're all full. Sorry. You and the whole "xxx news organization isn't listed in the constitution!!!!" crowd are just bypassing the point he's making. Yes the WH can "assign seating" based on capacity and logistical needs. They can't revoke it "over fake news" which is what is happening here. You don't think he 'could have said 'sorry, the room is full'? It's fun to watch how easily he slips a bur under so many saddles. Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It’s fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. |
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Originally Posted By InflectionPoint: Nothing says confidence in what you’re doing like surrounding yourself with yes men only. Do you need a talking head to understand what he says? No. I don't. Personally, I'd rather him not open the room to anyone. State his case and walk out. All the news orgs will put their twist on it. I , and most people of sound mind can listen to his conferences and speeches and figure it out ourselves. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It’s fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. It's a failure to understand on your part. If everything is mhey, everything is mhey. Pretentious guilting doesn't work anymore, what with everyone playing by the same rules now. Everyone knows at this point it's a team sport. With only two teams- those who want to be left alone and those who want to control those wanting to be left alone. Truth, fairness and equity took a hike a long time ago. True libertarian ideas died with the development and rise of German idealism (authoritarianism replacing actual representative government) and the follow-on being the beginning of the 20th century, what with it's coercive/ violence-installed utopianism (which still finds favor despite historical facts). Most everyone is just waiting for the eventual fireworks to start. Having already picked a team. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It's fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Tell me, oh wise one, did these judges also assign seats, and in which room? Because we're all full. Sorry. You and the whole "xxx news organization isn't listed in the constitution!!!!" crowd are just bypassing the point he's making. Yes the WH can "assign seating" based on capacity and logistical needs. They can't revoke it "over fake news" which is what is happening here. You don't think he 'could have said 'sorry, the room is full'? It's fun to watch how easily he slips a bur under so many saddles. Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It's fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. |
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Originally Posted By realwar:  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_16-57-03__1__Ho-3829815.JPG Another day, another random X account with a retarded take. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It’s fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. Names some Presidential actions where he didn't listen to his legal counsel? |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Names some Presidential actions where he didn't listen to his legal counsel? Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By RCK1999: Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It’s fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. Names some Presidential actions where he didn't listen to his legal counsel? Tariffs Firing Lisa Cook Birthright citizenship The reflecting pool vandalism Appointing Alina Habba and Lindsay Halligan |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Tariffs Firing Lisa Cook Birthright citizenship The reflecting pool vandalism Appointing Alina Habba and Lindsay Halligan Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By RCK1999: Trumph has access to legal advice. He rarely, if ever, listens to it. It’s fun to watch the cult twist itself into pretzels trying to justify the indefensible behavior. Names some Presidential actions where he didn't listen to his legal counsel? Tariffs Firing Lisa Cook Birthright citizenship The reflecting pool vandalism Appointing Alina Habba and Lindsay Halligan Don’t forget Kennedy Center, yesterday’s media fiasco |
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Retarded? Huh, I think it's valid and shows how hypocritical Pelosi is. Why would you say otherwise? Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Originally Posted By Local: Another day, another random X account with a retarded take. Retarded? Huh, I think it's valid and shows how hypocritical Pelosi is. Why would you say otherwise? Is meeting with Pelosi in her office the same as the president or his staff holding a press briefing? |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Is meeting with Pelosi in her office the same as the president or his staff holding a press briefing?  |
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Originally Posted By Dirtydog: It's fun to watch how easily he slips a bur under so many saddles. It really is. I think it's hilarious. |
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Originally Posted By Dirtydog: lol, there just so many things I'd like to say. Originally Posted By Dirtydog: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Is meeting with Pelosi in her office the same as the president or his staff holding a press briefing? Why not say it then? |
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Retarded? Huh, I think it's valid and shows how hypocritical Pelosi is. Why would you say otherwise? It isnt a valid comparison. There are plenty of areas in the whitehouse where recording isn't even legal and reporters are not allowed. No one is challenging that. The press breifings are not the same thing. The valid comparison would be if Pelosi was hosting regular press breifings in her office and didn’t permit conservative outlets in because she didn’t like their editorial stance. If Fox or whoever thought that was happening they would be well justified in sueing. |
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Impressively stupid move... It's a bad look and definitely won't help us in the midterms. It will get shot down in court based on existing case-law and there will likely be a successful civil lawsuit that goes with it, which is embarrassing for Trump. This does nothing but feed the sheep that are more interested in "pWnInG lIbRoLs!" than getting actual results... |
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Originally Posted By Local: Does that help? When considering things written about public figures, like the president, the bar for proving things like libel is extraordinarily high. I can't see how anything CNN or whoever has written about him is remotely close to anything like illegal. It might be incorrect, but that doesn't actually matter. Reporting the news is still first amendment protected speech. It isn't remotely that simple. This has been tried in court several times over the span of decades and the courts have found consistently that if the Whitehouse is going to have press briefings it can't bar specific news outlets or specific reporters from those without good reason because of 1st and 5th amendment issues. Not liking what they report isn't good enough. Alleging that the news being reported isn't factual isn't good enough. If the administration wants to take this court they can, but they'll probably loose. That's fine with me. The courts should revisit such decisions from time to time and see if their reasoning still holds up. |
| Press briefings have limited space at the Whitehouse, if I was Trump, I'd kick legacy media out on the fact their irrelevant compared to far more popular media outlets. I'd rather see Hasan Piker at a press briefing than some dumbass from CNN. |
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: When this inevitably gets overturned because it's already been decided in court they'll be screaming about activist judges. So it gets overturned. So what? It'll be atleast a few days or a couple of weeks before that happens. That's a few days without CNN in the White House. Until then, they can go get fucked and peddle their bullshit from the sidewalk where they belong. You guys really need to learn to accept the small wins. |
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: So it gets overturned. So what? It'll be atleast a few days or a couple of weeks before that happens. That's a few days without CNN in the White House. Until then, they can go get fucked and peddle their bullshit from the sidewalk where they belong. You guys really need to learn to accept the small wins. Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: When this inevitably gets overturned because it's already been decided in court they'll be screaming about activist judges. So it gets overturned. So what? It'll be atleast a few days or a couple of weeks before that happens. That's a few days without CNN in the White House. Until then, they can go get fucked and peddle their bullshit from the sidewalk where they belong. You guys really need to learn to accept the small wins. You think a few days without them in the WH will make any difference? Relative to the bad optics on this going into the midterms? 
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Originally Posted By Local: It isnt a valid comparison. There are plenty of areas in the whitehouse where recording isn't even legal and reporters are not allowed. No one is challenging that. The press breifings are not the same thing. The valid comparison would be if Pelosi was hosting regular press breifings in her office and didn’t permit conservative outlets in because she didn’t like their editorial stance. If Fox or whoever thought that was happening they would be well justified in sueing. Funny how she has media photo ops and interviews in her office when it suits her. |
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: So it gets overturned. So what? It'll be atleast a few days or a couple of weeks before that happens. That's a few days without CNN in the White House. Until then, they can go get fucked and peddle their bullshit from the sidewalk where they belong. You guys really need to learn to accept the small wins. Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: When this inevitably gets overturned because it's already been decided in court they'll be screaming about activist judges. So it gets overturned. So what? It'll be atleast a few days or a couple of weeks before that happens. That's a few days without CNN in the White House. Until then, they can go get fucked and peddle their bullshit from the sidewalk where they belong. You guys really need to learn to accept the small wins. I guess if you consider it a distraction that takes some of the coverage away from the shitshow of a Iran war then you can call it a win. Personally I think 24/7 news probably has time to cover both so it isn't even a very effective distraction. |
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Originally Posted By BFskinner: I guess if you consider it a distraction that takes some of the coverage away from the shitshow of a Iran war then you can call it a win. Personally I think 24/7 news probably has time to cover both so it isn't even a very effective distraction. No, it's not a distraction. It is a big FU to these news companies that all suck ass. Maybe they will be back in, maybe not. |
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Originally Posted By dalegribble87: Hasn't he done a plethora of one on one interviews with the retarded mainstream media since 2016, more than any modern president? Including sit down interviews with incredibly hostile "journalists". The idea that Trump hides from the media is absolute horse shit. He's just made the decision that catering to failing corporate media outlets isn't getting the reach, not to mention they act like they're on a crusade to drum up whatever spin, propaganda and outright hoaxes regarding him. That's not journalism. |
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Originally Posted By dalegribble87: Hasn't he done a plethora of one on one interviews with the retarded mainstream media since 2016, more than any modern president? Originally Posted By dalegribble87: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: What a colossal pussy. Hasn't he done a plethora of one on one interviews with the retarded mainstream media since 2016, more than any modern president? So? His stated explicitly that he's doing so because he doesn't like their coverage. Just like a little petulant bitch would. If he doesn't like the coverage then he can sack up and counter their coverage. |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: So? His stated explicitly that he's doing so because he doesn't like their coverage. Just like a little petulant bitch would. If he doesn't like the coverage then he can sack up and counter their coverage. Yeah and what's wrong? Having people around who are just dickheads trying only to get sound bites to fabricate some new propaganda piece? All these corporate media outlets have a long history of doing just that. Again that's not journalism. It's propaganda. |
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Obama locked out news groups and favored others so no protesting this is new. https://x.com/finaltelegraph/status/2101624550425243665?s=61&t=kxZ0lCHT5PtfVXRtpASqnQ While due process may be getting short shrift I think Trump easily shows how much the Press puts into fake news. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: Yeah and what's wrong? Having people around who are just dickheads trying only to get sound bites to fabricate some new propaganda piece? All these corporate media outlets have a long history of doing just that. Again that's not journalism. It's propaganda. Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: So? His stated explicitly that he's doing so because he doesn't like their coverage. Just like a little petulant bitch would. If he doesn't like the coverage then he can sack up and counter their coverage. Yeah and what's wrong? Having people around who are just dickheads trying only to get sound bites to fabricate some new propaganda piece? All these corporate media outlets have a long history of doing just that. Again that's not journalism. It's propaganda. And he can put his big boy pants on and counter them. Only an intellectual coward would want to only get questions they like. |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: And he can put his big boy pants on and counter them. Only an intellectual coward would want to only get questions they like. |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: And he can put his big boy pants on and counter them. Only an intellectual coward would want to only get questions they like. I'm not sure press conferences are required. He should do a dailey press release. Problem solved, no hurt feelings from "the press". |
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Originally Posted By Federov: Yeah and what's wrong? Having people around who are just dickheads trying only to get sound bites to fabricate some new propaganda piece? All these corporate media outlets have a long history of doing just that. Again that's not journalism. It's propaganda. It doesn’t matter what you think it is. Calling it propaganda doesn’t change how press credentials work under the law. |
| One of the issues is that the Left is clogging up the news stream to such an extent that the real news can't break through. I'm cool with Trump filtering out some of the worst offenders (don't worry, there are still plenty or Orange Man Bad fake news orgs at the WH) in order to give real reporting a fighting chance. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: It doesn't matter what you think it is. Calling it propaganda doesn't change how press credentials work under the law. Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Federov: Yeah and what's wrong? Having people around who are just dickheads trying only to get sound bites to fabricate some new propaganda piece? All these corporate media outlets have a long history of doing just that. Again that's not journalism. It's propaganda. It doesn't matter what you think it is. Calling it propaganda doesn't change how press credentials work under the law. One out of every five respondents who applied for a credential was denied by a credentialing organization at least once. Certain categories of applicants are more likely to be denied than others: freelance journalists were significantly less likely to receive media credentials than employed journalists. Photographers were more likely to be denied than non-photographers. Respondents who identified themselves as activists were more likely to be denied than those respondents who did not. |
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Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Except the Whitehouse property is We The People's property. Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Originally Posted By gotigers: good And this is NOT a 1stA violation. They can cover the whitehouse from the street. No constitutional guarantee to be on the whitehouse property. Except the Whitehouse property is We The People's property. Military bases are also We The People’s property. I would not suggest you try entering secured areas. The WH is a sensitive and secured area. Don’t try forcing your way into it. |
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