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Posted: 10/16/2009 10:55:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2009 3:37:08 PM EST by GoatBoy]
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 10:57:45 AM EST
FAIL

Link Posted: 10/16/2009 10:58:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2009 4:06:39 AM EST by AmericanPatriot]
Edit : Removed Ray Charles can't see s**t, fail fixed.
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 11:12:46 AM EST
Stupid question but...what kind of lower can I use on this?
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 11:15:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2009 12:40:51 PM EST by bushmaster]
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 11:49:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By agillig:
Stupid question but...what kind of lower can I use on this?

5.56 Max overall length 2.260"

7.62x39 Max overall length 2.200"
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 2:11:58 PM EST
Funny....I was just looking into a 7.62x39 upper this morning. Timely.
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 3:36:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot:

Originally Posted By agillig:
Stupid question but...what kind of lower can I use on this?

5.56 Max overall length 2.260"

7.62x39 Max overall length 2.200"


You will need different magazines, though.
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 6:14:59 PM EST
Where can you get these magazines, I looked on the bushmaster site.

Moreover, let me get this straight, this upper will plug-n-play on my .223 lower? No special bufferspring etc? Also, includes bolt/carrier/charging handle?
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 4:58:10 AM EST
JUNK!
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 5:23:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By TXGUNNER308:
JUNK!


Why do you say that?

if you are going to post something good or derogatory about a product at least back it up with a reason..
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 5:35:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 2:50:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Northwind:
Where can you get these magazines, I looked on the bushmaster site.

Moreover, let me get this straight, this upper will plug-n-play on my .223 lower? No special bufferspring etc? Also, includes bolt/carrier/charging handle?


You can get mags from Arfcom site sponsor 44Mag.com.

No modifications to your lower should be required. Standard buffer and spring should suffice.

I'm not sure if the upper being offered includes a bolt and charging handle. The 7.62x39 does use a different bolt than a .223.
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 5:25:31 PM EST
is the barrel chrome lined?
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 2:02:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Northwind:
Where can you get these magazines, I looked on the bushmaster site.

Moreover, let me get this straight, this upper will plug-n-play on my .223 lower? No special bufferspring etc? Also, includes bolt/carrier/charging handle?


Says right there you can one get with, or without all of that.
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 11:06:59 AM EST
How well do these work with millsurp steel cased ammo?
Link Posted: 10/19/2009 4:37:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By TXGUNNER308:
JUNK!

The first gun I ever bought was a Bushmaster during the ban era. Since then, I've modified the crap out of it, but aside from not working with Rock River's 2 stage trigger, I've never had any issues with it. Definitely not junk.
Link Posted: 10/19/2009 4:38:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/19/2009 10:42:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/19/2009 10:43:54 AM EST by MadRich]
Originally Posted By bushmaster:
We do offer the mags Part# 8448670-39 26rd $35.95 ea.

5 and 10rd mags will also be avail...

The 7.62x39 barrels do have a chrome lined bore & chamber.



Some other info I would like to know that your website does not show.
Twist rate?
M4 extensions?
Does the price include BCG? there's no options for it, just says handle. is it carry handle or charging handle?
Where are the bolts from? do I have to modify it to use steel case ammo?
Link Posted: 10/20/2009 5:46:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2009 5:48:28 AM EST by Turboguy1]
Originally Posted By Northwind:
Where can you get these magazines, I looked on the bushmaster site.

Moreover, let me get this straight, this upper will plug-n-play on my .223 lower? No special bufferspring etc? Also, includes bolt/carrier/charging handle?


Magazines: Use the CProducts ones. They're the best in the 7.62x39 caliber. I tried and failed for years to fine magazines that were remotely reliable in my 7.62x39 AR15, then they come out with these last year or thereabouts. They're awesome and WORK! CDNN has them or you can just order them direct from C Products.

Link!
http://www.cproductsllc.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22_36

do I have to modify it to use steel case ammo?


You shoudn't. I've run steel and brass through mine without a hiccup. Granted mine is the 20" from a different manufacturer, but if a DPMS will eat it, a Bushy shuldn't have an issue.

Yes the upper will plug and play on your standard .223 lower receiver, no hassle or screw around. Push pins in, insert magazine, pull charging handle, rock and roll. There could be slight differences between receiver manufacturers though. Example: My DPMS 7.62x39 upper receiver will not fit on my RR lower, but vice versa works fine. I don't know if there could be any conflicts regarding Bushmaster vs. other manufacturers.

I always laugh at people that are here on AR15.com who forget that the AR15 magazine well is quite a bit longer than the rounds you're feeding it, unless you're throwing those 88 grainer VLD bullets that you've got to single load anyway. 7.62x39 will happily fit into not only the magazine, but your magwell too.

My only beef with this upper is that I absolutely hate the M4 profile barrel. What's the step for? I don't see too many people outside the military running a grenade launcher on an M4. What's wrong with either just going pencil barrel or CAR barrel?
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 2:35:49 AM EST
So maybe Bushmaster can clear this up for us, this is a complete upper with BCG yes? What is the length of the barrel, with flash hider? Chrome lined? And no issues with soviet ammo types? If we could get a straight answer on that it would be great, not a "my dpms shoots it fine i dont see why a bushy wouldnt". Thats apples and oranges in my eyes. I think this upper will make my CMMG a sweet little piggy rig for when i get back to the States.


Rock
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 5:15:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By bushmaster:
We do offer the mags Part# 8448670-39 26rd $35.95 ea.

5 and 10rd mags will also be avail...

The 7.62x39 barrels do have a chrome lined bore & chamber.



Has a chrome lined bore and chamber. They also say that it is longer than their M4 barrel to make it legal to sell to you. That would lend itself to being at least 16 inchs.

What I see is that it is a great carbine upper with chrome lined chamber and barrel that will pin onto your regular AR lower assembly and shoot. Pretty simple.
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 6:20:42 AM EST
Ok so can we determine if it includes BCG or not?
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 11:09:22 AM EST
According to the email I received it does come with the semi-BCG.
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 11:11:48 AM EST
Similar to our M4 Type Carbines, but with additional barrel length to make them legal for sale to individuals. Available in both A3 and A2 versions, with or without bolt, carrier, and charging handle. Ships with a 26 rd Mag.


Does that answer your question? Or are you asking if the PRICE includes the BCG, which would be a really good question.
Link Posted: 10/22/2009 12:01:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2009 4:40:57 AM EST by bushmaster]
Link Posted: 10/23/2009 8:46:47 PM EST
Are these still available, whats the ship time, anyone already have one, how do the mags feed and what do they look like, anyone have any serious positive/negative about these?

Link Posted: 10/24/2009 4:05:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2009 4:07:30 AM EST by AmericanPatriot]
Free bump from a Bushmaster supporter

ETA : * Told a friend who was in the market for this, he ordered one and told me there are only 1500 planned production. True/False? *



Link Posted: 10/26/2009 6:03:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2009 11:16:00 PM EST
Any law enforcement discounts?
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 4:39:42 PM EST
Trying to decide between this or a new K-Var.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 11:34:05 AM EST

Jarrod,
I left you a voice message to see if this offer was still valid. Please let me know.


Thanks!
Bigfeet
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:24:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Blackwind:
Trying to decide between this or a new K-Var.


+1

Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:40:17 PM EST
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