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2/16/2012 5:01:45 PM EDT
Anyone deal with Botach Tactical?  I placed a order yesterday with them for some Magpul stuff because they have a 20% off coupon code.  Well today I got a email saying that 2 of the 3 items I ordered are on backorder with no ETA.  Wondering if I should cancel or just wait it out.
2/16/2012 3:03:29 PM EDT
[#1]
That's pretty typical of Botach. With that said I have ordered from them before with no issue but not everyone has the same luck with them. I would cancel and look elsewhere.
2/16/2012 3:04:51 PM EDT
[#2]
I just for the first time got the same email yesterday.



I had placed a ton of orders with them in the past with zero problems.



I ordered the AFG2 in black and I am in no hurry for it, so I will wait it out for a couple of weeks and see where this goes.
2/16/2012 3:05:08 PM EDT
[#3]
They are almost always backordered.. some guys were just saying it took 3 weeks to get there stuff.. (I think in your post even)...

I cancelled and went with DSGArms or 44mag (for mags)..

A decent place is CalsSportingArmory which I've also had good luck with..
2/16/2012 3:08:01 PM EDT
[#4]
What did you order? I placed an order with them yesterday as well but I havent gotten that back order email yet, but I also havent gotten a shipping tracking no either....
2/16/2012 3:08:06 PM EDT
[#5]
They have good prices on Badger Ordinance lefty charging handles. Which is my brand.

So I've ordered a few from them. I always call first to make sure they're in stock. Because it is, after all, Botach. They're happy to sit on your money for a couple months.
2/16/2012 3:12:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Botach USED to be a sight sponsor. Enough said!
2/16/2012 3:19:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
What did you order? I placed an order with them yesterday as well but I havent gotten that back order email yet, but I also havent gotten a shipping tracking no either....


I ordered a MOE CTR Stock, MOE grip plus & P Mag.  The stock & grip are on backorder.
2/16/2012 3:22:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Yeah, I'm waiting on an optic "2 to 3 weeks" Going on the three...

2/16/2012 3:23:25 PM EDT
[#9]
270 People have felt that Botach Tactical was bad enough to file a complaint with the BBB in the past 3 years.  Imagine how many others just either bitched about it in forums or quietly steamed?

This belongs somewhere other than the tech forums btw.
2/16/2012 3:27:46 PM EDT
[#10]
I've never had any problems with them.
On the other hand I've only ordered Pmags from them.
2/16/2012 3:27:56 PM EDT
[#11]
I have bought from Botach many times, never had any issues when items in stock.
A couple times things were not in stock and I waited, or cancelled, have never been done wrong by them and will order again with confidence.
Not everyone has the same luck with them as me, can't explain that, will not attempt to. Nobody is perfect...
2/16/2012 5:02:04 PM EDT
[#12]
To deal with Botach you have to call first and check to see if it's in stock.  If it is, order it immediately.  

I haven't ordered from them in a long time because they are a pain.  I'd order again but not if someone else has it in stock for a similar price.
2/16/2012 5:18:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Teh Debil
2/16/2012 5:19:42 PM EDT
[#14]
what ever happened to the nephew of the owner of botach   that was arrested for selling communist ammo from the '50's to the US army to supply the iraqi troops?

If I remember he was like 19 yrs old , but they couldnt connect it to his father or uncle as to how he won the contract from the army in the first place.
2/16/2012 5:26:35 PM EDT
[#15]
I have personally had no problems with Botach.
2/16/2012 5:30:51 PM EDT
[#16]

Wait!

They actually had one of your items in stock?!?


2/16/2012 5:33:55 PM EDT
[#17]
My personel experience is I have always gotten the stuff I paid for.

The details are.  
One order I made, 9 of 10 items came.  The 10th item took 8 more months.

Another order I made was for PMAGS with  20% off sale.  I ordered and they said the were back ordered.  

About 1 year and change later I noticed an unknown charge on my credit card, and about a week later I got a package in the mail, it was the PMAGS, I had completely forgot about ordering them.

I will not ever order from them again, so I can not recommend to anyone to use them.

As far as checking with them if an item is in stock, there online chat feature can not tell you if anything is in stock apparently they are only available to answer questions about products or something, maybe you will have better luck calling them?,if you can read thru this email and still even consider to use these dill holes
2/16/2012 5:41:52 PM EDT
[#18]
I've had a few orders through them and never had any issues. That said, I always contact them first to confirm if what I want to order is in stock.  They don't have an active inventory system on their website so not everything they show is in stock.  Botach gets bashed here worse than President Obama, even though places like SWFA and Optics Planet are favorites and they have the same inventory issues.
2/16/2012 5:43:25 PM EDT
[#19]
Ordered from them many times,my latest was msa/sordin supreme pro-x headphones.

Had them in 3 days coast to coast!
2/16/2012 5:43:53 PM EDT
[#20]







Quoted:




what ever happened to the nephew of the owner of botach   that was arrested for selling communist ammo from the '50's to the US army to supply the iraqi troops?
If I remember he was like 19 yrs old , but they couldnt connect it to his father or uncle as to how he won the contract from the army in the first place.




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/world/asia/27ammo.html?pagewanted=all






 











 
2/16/2012 5:45:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Very typical. I've placed numerous orders with them and never had a problem. The times I had placed orders and some of the items were backordered, my credit card was only charged for the items shipped. I did call them to cancel a few items that were backordered with no problems.
2/16/2012 5:46:47 PM EDT
[#22]
These guys get bashed here pretty regularly.  I recently ordered 3 M&P-9 mags which are a little hard to find especially at good prices.  I received my 3 mags in just a few days at a great price new in box.  I have never had a bad experience personally and have ordered several times in the past.
2/16/2012 5:48:59 PM EDT
[#23]
I got in on the Micro T-1 / Magnifier combo last summer and it shipped the same day.  

I order batteries from them regularly.  I usually get an email the next day saying the item is backordered, but it always ships after another day or two.  
Results seem pretty mixed, but try ordering one item at a time (free shipping on virtually everything anyway).  I haven't had any bad experiences with them and their CS via email has been pretty good.
2/16/2012 5:49:26 PM EDT
[#24]
The one and only time I ordered from them, they shipped my Glock mags within a week. That was last January, it took until May with repeated phone calls to get my 870 sidesaddle.
2/16/2012 5:50:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Just ordered a Peltor headset that is normally 400 bucks for only 89 shipped, it took 3 days to get.
2/16/2012 5:59:57 PM EDT
[#26]
I have been pleased with botach up until my last order. My wife bought me a GoPro from them on Dec 11 (my only Christmas present). Until last week, every time I would check the staus of the order, I was told 1-2 weeks. Finally, last week they told me to order it somewhere else. from now on, I'm not down with the backorder list at botach. In stock? Fine. Backorder? Forget it.
2/16/2012 6:03:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
These guys get bashed here pretty regularly.  I recently ordered 3 M&P-9 mags which are a little hard to find especially at good prices.  I received my 3 mags in just a few days at a great price new in box.  I have never had a bad experience personally and have ordered several times in the past.


They used to have problems but IMO no longer do; but they are having trouble overcoming their once bad reputation.

I have not had any problems with any of my orders, even from quite a while ago.
2/16/2012 6:16:44 PM EDT
[#28]
I've ordered "IN Stock" items from Cabelas and the next day I've gotten a "discontinued" e-mail.
2/16/2012 6:17:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Anyone deal with Botach Tactical?  I placed a order yesterday with them for some Magpul stuff because they have a 20% off coupon code.  Well today I got a email saying that 2 of the 3 items I ordered are on backorder with no ETA.  Wondering if I should cancel or just wait it out.


Well whats the damn CODE???  
2/16/2012 6:18:15 PM EDT
[#30]
I had 1 order with Botach,  I cancelled the order.  Will not order again.
2/16/2012 6:18:18 PM EDT
[#31]
I buy magazines from them fairly often, due to great sales (discounts).  This subject concerning backorders and slow processing comes up often in other forums also.  The easiest thing to do, is call them at their number, ask them if they are in stock, ready to ship, and order that way.  Works for me.
FT
2/16/2012 6:31:42 PM EDT
[#32]
This
Quoted:
To deal with Botach you have to call first and check to see if it's in stock.  If it is, order it immediately.  

I haven't ordered from them in a long time because they are a pain.  I'd order again but not if someone else has it in stock for a similar price.


Other wise, this.

Quoted:
Teh Debil


2/16/2012 6:38:25 PM EDT
[#33]
My only experience with them was for some Glock 19 mags.  They came fast, and with no issues.  I was nervous ordering from them as I have heard they are pretty hit or miss.
2/16/2012 7:08:26 PM EDT
[#34]
RE: BOTACH TACTICAL:
I have made over 20 orders from this firm. I rate them as good as highly as any vendor I have dealt with from this forum (+1)

Yesterday, I ordered 3 Kelty products yesterday at a great price 65% off.
I placed the order, asking if they were in stock, they said yes. I got an email confirmation after the buy.
They called today (from CA to FL) to confirm the freight I wanted and I got an air bill emailed to me about 3 hours later, too.
The products will arrive on Monday via UPS. My experience couldn't be any better and I am a nobody to them (in all reality).

My concern is that if there is no firm release date for a product that I wanted, then I would have to pass, as Botach Tactical supplies bigger firms than me [alone].
Instant gratification, when one is seeking a great deal for a brand name product isn't always possible.

For example:
When I orderd my OBR from LaRue, I didn't get a release date, but I purchased the OBR just the same; paid in full in advance. I got it when it was done being built.
About 12 months ago, I had to wait a few months from Botach for an Aimpoint T-1 with an OEM mount and 16 windowed P-Mags, but the troops were being supplied these RDSs at that same time; I'd rather wait, given those circumstances. I paid about $150.00 less than anywhere else for the T-1 and got about $425.00 worth of MAGPUL's finest at that price, too

I find Botach to be honest, trustworthy and my packages always arrive in great shape. Some people need to learn how to conduct business like adults, it seems.

2/16/2012 7:12:05 PM EDT
[#35]
I have ordered from them a half dozen times. Never had any issues. CS rep called me once to confirm payment when I used a AmEx gift card someone gave me.






Prices are usually as good or better than you will get anywhere else. Always been satisfied with my purchases.
2/16/2012 7:12:52 PM EDT
[#36]
My last only order took 7 weeks.

eta: I will say though they didnt charge my card until the items shipped
2/16/2012 7:14:30 PM EDT
[#37]
You should always call first to see if they are in stock.
2/16/2012 7:15:42 PM EDT
[#38]
I ordered some TruGlo TFO's from them about 6 weeks ago. Didn't call ahead. Backordered email came 3 days later. Backordered 1 week, shipped out at the time the email stated, no problems in transit, had them in about a week and a half. Every other order I've placed with them has been fine.
2/16/2012 7:16:41 PM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


I've ordered "IN Stock" items from Cabelas and the next day I've gotten a "discontinued" e-mail.


Ordered a half dozen Surefire 6P LEDs on clearance from Galls last year. They were crazy cheap, something like  $15-$20 each. Order was cancelled without an email explaining why shortly thereafter. Finally got a letter apologizing for allowing me to place an order when they shouldn't have and they would be unable to fill my order.

 



Galls also effed up crediting my account when I returned something...sent me an invoice for something I returned two months prior.







In comparison my Botach experiences have always been great.






2/16/2012 7:42:09 PM EDT
[#40]
I ordered from them one time, after that experience I won't be ordering from them again.  A cheap price on an item you want isn't worth what they put me through, and this was for something they claimed was in stock, they lied, they do that a lot.


 
2/16/2012 8:50:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Some people need to learn how to conduct business like adults, it seems.



I think that sums up Botach beautifully.

I made an order where I had all but 2 of the items arrive together (all items billed at the same time),  one of them came the next week.  For the last item, I waited...and waited, finally calling after about 4 weeks,  the girl says it is in the mail.  Waited, waited.....never came, called back, They showed to order as closed and that I recieved all items, end of conversion.  They could not provide any proof of the item sent, but they sent it.  Then after several months a Botach tread came up like this and I related my story for the masses,  someone from Botach was creeping thru the forum and posted his info and that he would make everyones issues with Botach go away.  I sent him the order number and he sent missing item from the order. I thought man, Botach is turning things around.  Then the emails started, he wanted to use my name promoting Botach to the people running AR15.com to get back in the door with them.
2/17/2012 1:07:13 PM EDT
[#42]
I called them several times trying to cancel my order but they never answered.  I emailed them asking to cancel my order yesterday & they responded back today saying that it was cancelled.  So now I have to shop around for some good pricing on Magpul items that are in stock.  Thanks fellas for the help!!!
2/22/2012 2:13:58 PM EDT
[#43]
Sorry to bring this up top again, but I got some Botach awesomeness to share. I ordered an LMT FA bolt carrier group and an LMT tac charging handle on DECEMBER 8TH. Yes it has been on back order this whole time. It is for an SBR that I am waiting on the stamp for so I wasn't really sweating the wait, plus I'm a cheap bastard and wanted free shipping. Anyway I got confirmation the other day that my package was on its way,ok fine. I get it and open it up and behold a carrier not a complete carrier group but a carrier, no bolt, no pins no charging handle WTF! I called and I don't think they understand that they didn't give me what I paid for. I did get a back order email saying my charging handle was still two weeks out, the same message I got when I ordered way back in December . You can say I learned my lesson and will send back what they gave me and spend my money elsewhere.
2/22/2012 2:25:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Typical of them.
2/22/2012 2:31:22 PM EDT
[#45]
A while back Botach asked an arfcommer for product samples then copied the product and brought their own to market.  (no he didn't have a patent because it wasn't cost effective.  Even so, that was a shitty thing for them to do.) That on top of the horrendous service I got the one time I ordered from them keeps me from ordering from them again.
2/22/2012 2:36:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Google "Botach" and let us know what you find.
 
3/22/2012 3:20:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Do not click on this link.
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