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7/2/2025 2:35:10 AM EDT
Release date: September 12th.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1285190/Borderlands_4/










7/2/2025 2:36:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stitches1974][Edited] [#1]
Borderlands 4 - Official Gameplay Trailer | State of Play 2025


Borderlands 4 Pre-Order Prices, Bonuses & DLC Breakdown! // Let's Talk About It
7/2/2025 5:07:37 PM EDT
[#2]
If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.

"If You’re a Real Fan, You’ll Find a Way to Make It Happen."

With CEOs taking these stances, it's hard to invest my hard earned money on their products.

Had Randy Pitchford not made this statement, and the game came out to be $70, I may have purchased it. I love the borderlands series.

This leaves me with two options: Sail the high seas, or wait for a deep sale. Borderlands is known to have significant price drops during all of steam sales. Take Tiny Tina's Wonderland for example, released on Jun 23, 2022, it was featured on the Steam Autumn Sale in November 2022 for 50% off, $29.99.

That's a mere 5 months.

I highly anticipate this going on a deep sale of at least 35-50% off during the Spring sale in 2026.

Do I want to play it? Hell yeah, I always have fun playing BL with my friends. However, due to Pitchford's comments, I think I will wait. Or, you know, other options.

All he had to do was keep his mouth shut ...
7/2/2025 5:41:25 PM EDT
[#3]
The player characters aren't quite as DEI-bad as I was expecting.

They had a gay wedding in the last game, I wonder if they'll try and top it in this one.
7/2/2025 5:49:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:
The player characters aren't quite as DEI-bad as I was expecting.

They had a gay wedding in the last game, I wonder if they'll try and top it in this one.
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I skipped the last one and will skip this one too because of that shit
7/2/2025 6:55:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:
The player characters aren't quite as DEI-bad as I was expecting.

They had a gay wedding in the last game, I wonder if they'll try and top it in this one.
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Did we all just look at the same characters? DEI fest- they just threw you one pity character.
7/3/2025 12:56:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jatobi:
If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.

"If You’re a Real Fan, You’ll Find a Way to Make It Happen."

With CEOs taking these stances, it's hard to invest my hard earned money on their products.

Had Randy Pitchford not made this statement, and the game came out to be $70, I may have purchased it. I love the borderlands series.

This leaves me with two options: Sail the high seas, or wait for a deep sale. Borderlands is known to have significant price drops during all of steam sales. Take Tiny Tina's Wonderland for example, released on Jun 23, 2022, it was featured on the Steam Autumn Sale in November 2022 for 50% off, $29.99.

That's a mere 5 months.

I highly anticipate this going on a deep sale of at least 35-50% off during the Spring sale in 2026.

Do I want to play it? Hell yeah, I always have fun playing BL with my friends. However, due to Pitchford's comments, I think I will wait. Or, you know, other options.

All he had to do was keep his mouth shut ...
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Base game, for me, is 1,790 baht or $55.90. 3390 baht or 104.73 for the super deluxe edition. Not sure what price it is on the US site.
7/7/2025 8:49:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:
The player characters aren't quite as DEI-bad as I was expecting.

They had a gay wedding in the last game, I wonder if they'll try and top it in this one.
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Gay wedding

Top it

Heh

But yeah looks pretty excessively diverse to me, but everything is gay and diverse in the franchise. Gman's play test makes it look okay but I'll wait for reviews and a discount most likely.
"I may crossdress but I don't dress like a whore" - LittlePony

"I don't mind some dong" - Rustynutzz
7/9/2025 6:51:18 PM EDT
[#8]
At least 1 of the DRMs is kernel level which IMO is rife with hacking potential

Story needs to be better than BL3
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7/10/2025 3:37:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Loved 2. So many hours…
Got maybe 4 hours into 3. Was bad. Never looked back

Was gonna wait on 4 to see what people say. Planned on that before ol boy started his personal PR shitshow. Now deep sale if at all

7/10/2025 4:05:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blind_Squirrel:
Loved 2. So many hours…
Got maybe 4 hours into 3. Was bad. Never looked back

Was gonna wait on 4 to see what people say. Planned on that before ol boy started his personal PR shitshow. Now deep sale if at all

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Honestly, 3 is held together by side quests and backstory. Especially the Typhon DeLeon logs. It's worth it to do a full playthrough to find them all.

And the DLCs are mostly great. Even the gay wedding. The two dudes are perfect GDers.
7/10/2025 5:11:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:

Honestly, 3 is held together by side quests and backstory. Especially the Typhon DeLeon logs. It's worth it to do a full playthrough to find them all.

And the DLCs are mostly great. Even the gay wedding. The two dudes are perfect GDers.
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The bitching back and forth does remind me of some threads here

I can't even count how many times I played through 3 mainly for the weapons. 2 had the better story though IMHO.

4 will be greatly improved if Lorelai isn't in it
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"I don't mind some dong" - Rustynutzz
8/16/2025 9:15:56 AM EDT
[#12]
More info about the game.

https://kotaku.com/borderlands-4-split-screen-coop-switch-2-amon-skill-tree-2000618064

Split-screen co-op returns

There are over 30 billion guns

Borderlands 4 has “more passive perks than all the previous Borderlands combined”
8/16/2025 8:51:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deerhurst][Edited] [#13]
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:

Honestly, 3 is held together by side quests and backstory. Especially the Typhon DeLeon logs. It's worth it to do a full playthrough to find them all.

And the DLCs are mostly great. Even the gay wedding. The two dudes are perfect GDers.
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I agree. BL3 story was weak. The DLCs and side stuff was worth it. Still better than presequal in my opinion.
8/18/2025 9:12:50 AM EDT
[#14]
I did a playthrough of 2 and 3 over the past month. The gunplay, movement and skill trees are 100 times better than 2.

Borderlands 2 scaling in uvhm past 72 and the op levels are broke after the big update when they raised the level cap to 80 and op levels to 10.

The writing in 3 blows, mayhem levels are a lot more "user friendly" than OP levels, now that you can re roll anointments on your gear and guns, farming is a lot less tedious. I guess since they added the reroll option, they culled the legend drop rates.  

I bought the super deluxe BL4. Im kinda hyped on all the cool movement stuff that's been advertised, the new loot system looks good but I'll wait and see what the story brings. I've read that the writing is a little darker so we'll see.
8/21/2025 7:40:28 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm bricked up even thinking about playing this
9/10/2025 12:11:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NorWester][Edited] [#16]
Preloading (PS5) right now. 28.168 GB.

eta looked in the library info and its actually 65 and change.
9/10/2025 12:14:20 PM EDT
[#17]
They still using kernal level DRM?
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9/10/2025 11:56:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By craig24680:
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Kernel level DRM BS? Yup, I'm out. Won't be buying BL4 then.
9/11/2025 8:08:34 AM EDT
[#19]
No PC preload on steam?
9/11/2025 8:19:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigAJ:
No PC preload on steam?
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Doesn't appear to be.

I preordered on greenmangaming, and I don't even have a key yet, even though the game releases on steam in less than 3 hours.  If it's not obvious, I am pretty ticked about it.
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9/11/2025 9:54:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:


Doesn't appear to be.

I preordered on greenmangaming, and I don't even have a key yet, even though the game releases on steam in less than 3 hours.  If it's not obvious, I am pretty ticked about it.
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I ordered elsewhere, I have my key activated, no pre-load.

Sucks
9/11/2025 2:03:58 PM EDT
[#22]
So what is this game like?

I played Borderlands 2 when it came out, skipped 3, and don't really remember much.

Everything I read online just talks about the different characters, skills, and weapons, but doesn't really explain the core game much. How does multiplayer work?
9/11/2025 2:15:42 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
So what is this game like?

I played Borderlands 2 when it came out, skipped 3, and don't really remember much.

Everything I read online just talks about the different characters, skills, and weapons, but doesn't really explain the core game much. How does multiplayer work?
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I'm like 30 minutes into playing, but it seems more like 2 than 3 to me (which is a good thing).

If you liked 2, you'll like 4.

Multiplayer should work just like it did in 2.  I see the multiplayer menu, but I don't ever play any multiplayer on my first playthrough because I like to do the story at my own pace.


It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child.
9/12/2025 5:30:42 AM EDT
[#24]
So far the game is pretty fun. I only have maybe two hours in it, but it’s already miles ahead of BL3.

Playing on PC, game runs pretty stable. Running everything maxed out. We will see how it does later on in the game. The people that seem to be having issues are on systems they have no idea how to build properly or older hardware.
9/12/2025 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:


I'm like 30 minutes into playing, but it seems more like 2 than 3 to me (which is a good thing).

If you liked 2, you'll like 4.

Multiplayer should work just like it did in 2.  I see the multiplayer menu, but I don't ever play any multiplayer on my first playthrough because I like to do the story at my own pace.


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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
So what is this game like?

I played Borderlands 2 when it came out, skipped 3, and don't really remember much.

Everything I read online just talks about the different characters, skills, and weapons, but doesn't really explain the core game much. How does multiplayer work?


I'm like 30 minutes into playing, but it seems more like 2 than 3 to me (which is a good thing).

If you liked 2, you'll like 4.

Multiplayer should work just like it did in 2.  I see the multiplayer menu, but I don't ever play any multiplayer on my first playthrough because I like to do the story at my own pace.


https://i.imgur.com/8ypfDfU.jpeg
Thanks. Just picked it up. Playing as Rafa.

I just saw in a quick guide video that states multiplayer world/campaign progression doesn't save for anyone except the host until a later update. You get all your loot and such but gotta replay the missions.

Gonna stick to solo for a bit.
9/12/2025 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Thanks. Just picked it up. Playing as Rafa.

I just saw in a quick guide video that states multiplayer world/campaign progression doesn't save for anyone except the host until a later update. You get all your loot and such but gotta replay the missions.

Gonna stick to solo for a bit.
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So that is wrong.

I have not played solo at all. I've been playing with a couple streamers since launch. We started fresh and have progressed together.  I checked singleplayer, and progression is the same as where I logged out. So it definitely progresses in multiplayer.
9/12/2025 9:31:58 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By jatobi:



So that is wrong.

I have not played solo at all. I've been playing with a couple streamers since launch. We started fresh and have progressed together.  I checked singleplayer, and progression is the same as where I logged out. So it definitely progresses in multiplayer.
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Originally Posted By jatobi:
Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Thanks. Just picked it up. Playing as Rafa.

I just saw in a quick guide video that states multiplayer world/campaign progression doesn't save for anyone except the host until a later update. You get all your loot and such but gotta replay the missions.

Gonna stick to solo for a bit.



So that is wrong.

I have not played solo at all. I've been playing with a couple streamers since launch. We started fresh and have progressed together.  I checked singleplayer, and progression is the same as where I logged out. So it definitely progresses in multiplayer.
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Seems like it only works if you play with people at your world/campaign status?


9/12/2025 9:42:27 PM EDT
[#28]
No idea.

I just know that 4 of us were playing together, and the 3 of us that weren't host kept progress.

They even completed the very first open world main story mission without me because I had to leave for an hour.  I came back and logged in, and joined up for the rest of the night.  When I logged over to singleplayer to check, I was where we currently were in the story. Which was roughly 3 or 4 MSQ in.

I'll have to check POIs.  Not sure, didn't look, but map was revealed.
9/13/2025 6:59:49 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394169/IMG_4434_jpeg-3623281.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394169/IMG_4435_jpeg-3623282.JPG

Seems like it only works if you play with people at your world/campaign status?


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As I recall, this how it worked in Borderlands 2 or very similar.
9/13/2025 7:19:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigAJ:
As I recall, this how it worked in Borderlands 2 or very similar.
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The issues with progress is difficulty settings.

If you're on one difficulty, such as hard, and someone is in there with you and they leave but theirs is set to normal, they will not have the progression unless they are on hard as well.

ETA:

Also:  Before you think the POI's arent explored in your own world, go to them.  Mine wasn't showing up, I couldn't see my other fast travel locations.  Once I got into that zone, they popped up.
9/17/2025 7:06:39 AM EDT
[#31]
I redeemed one of the gold keys early and got a damn assault rifle that shoots rockets automatically without having to switch to secondary fire LOL

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9/17/2025 4:31:32 PM EDT
[#32]
The pruple shotguns with the rocket under barrels are apparently broke right now and do a metric fuckton of damage. I wouldn't know because I can't get one to drop.
9/17/2025 7:01:06 PM EDT
[#33]
man, they did real good with this one. I'm about 7 hours in and It feels like playing BL2 all over again for the first time.

the movement is fantastic, and the open-world traversal is great.

the humor is more akin to BL2.

I'm gonna be playing a shit-ton of this over the years.
9/19/2025 12:51:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Any chance this will run on a 1080ti?
9/19/2025 3:12:10 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared:
Any chance this will run on a 1080ti?
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40 fps on lowest settings.
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9/19/2025 4:31:58 PM EDT
[#36]
I've been reading that apparently optimization is horrible. Even poor frame rates with 5080s at 1080p.


The CEO or whatever it is is basically telling people that if they want to call themselves a gamer they need to pay crazy prices for the game and buy top tier hardware.


I'll probably be passing for a while. I'll think about it when I can find it second hand somewhere.
9/19/2025 5:56:19 PM EDT
[#37]
I have a ROG gaming laptop and haven't had any problems.

I really like it so far and it more like BL2 than BL3 which is a good thing.  It isn't perfect and I think it lacks a lot of the humor and heart of the earlier versions particularly since there doesn't seem to be any other characters that are interesting.
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9/19/2025 5:58:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
I have a ROG gaming laptop and haven't had any problems.

I really like it so far and it more like BL2 than BL3 which is a good thing.  It isn't perfect and I think it lacks a lot of the humor and heart of the earlier versions particularly since there doesn't seem to be any other characters that are interesting.
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Last couple of games dipped toes into DEI
How's this one?
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9/19/2025 7:02:04 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By craig24680:



Last couple of games dipped toes into DEI
How's this one?
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Originally Posted By craig24680:
Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
I have a ROG gaming laptop and haven't had any problems.

I really like it so far and it more like BL2 than BL3 which is a good thing.  It isn't perfect and I think it lacks a lot of the humor and heart of the earlier versions particularly since there doesn't seem to be any other characters that are interesting.



Last couple of games dipped toes into DEI
How's this one?

None I've noticed.
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9/19/2025 8:07:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:

40 fps on lowest settings.
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Originally Posted By ChaosSquared:
Any chance this will run on a 1080ti?

40 fps on lowest settings.


Not surprising, but damn. Guess my gaming days are pretty much over.
9/20/2025 4:52:30 AM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared:


Not surprising, but damn. Guess my gaming days are pretty much over.
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Even then, a 2070 is the posted minimum for the game.

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 / AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT / Intel Arc A580
9/20/2025 3:45:19 PM EDT
[#42]
You guys keeping up on all the Shift rewards? I think I have 11 Gold Keys so far. I only used the 1 and got that legendary assault rifle I posted about earlier. It's sadly been replaced by a simple green assault rifle due to lagging behind after leveling up a bit.

I think they usually post the codes on X. I just grab em off Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlandsshiftcodes/
9/20/2025 4:34:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
You guys keeping up on all the Shift rewards? I think I have 11 Gold Keys so far. I only used the 1 and got that legendary assault rifle I posted about earlier. It's sadly been replaced by a simple green assault rifle due to lagging behind after leveling up a bit.

I think they usually post the codes on X. I just grab em off Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlandsshiftcodes/
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https://www.ign.com/wikis/borderlands-4/Borderlands_4_SHiFT_Codes
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9/20/2025 6:35:16 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
You guys keeping up on all the Shift rewards? I think I have 11 Gold Keys so far. I only used the 1 and got that legendary assault rifle I posted about earlier. It's sadly been replaced by a simple green assault rifle due to lagging behind after leveling up a bit.

I think they usually post the codes on X. I just grab em off Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlandsshiftcodes/
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Yeah, save your keys for level 50.
9/21/2025 7:48:04 AM EDT
[#45]
Which is why I have stuck with Borderlands 2.  I don't care if Borderlands 3 base edition is $2.99 on some crazy Steam deal, I'm not supporting the gayification or the pushing of DEI BS in video games or tabletop RPGs.
9/21/2025 9:14:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AV1611:
Which is why I have stuck with Borderlands 2.  I don't care if Borderlands 3 base edition is $2.99 on some crazy Steam deal, I'm not supporting the gayification or the pushing of DEI BS in video games or tabletop RPGs.
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BL2 is the only one I've played, but AFAIC, it's nearly perfection. I should start playing again. VR version is a blast, except jumping off high things makes my stomach turn
9/21/2025 9:21:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AV1611:
Which is why I have stuck with Borderlands 2.  I don't care if Borderlands 3 base edition is $2.99 on some crazy Steam deal, I'm not supporting the gayification or the pushing of DEI BS in video games or tabletop RPGs.
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The worst borderlands game for dei IMO is the tiny tinas wonderland
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9/21/2025 1:17:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By craig24680:


The worst borderlands game for dei IMO is the tiny tinas wonderland
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Yup. Closely followed by BL3.


Looks like no BL4 for PS4 so I'll wait and see if they patch it so it gets a little more optimization and maybe get it for PC in a year or two.


Otherwise, if it were for PS4 I'd wait until a used copy popped up locally.
9/21/2025 2:34:50 PM EDT
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I believe you that Tiny Tina's Wonderland had DEI, but for the life of me I can't remember it.
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9/21/2025 2:38:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:


I believe you that Tiny Tina's Wonderland had DEI, but for the life of me I can't remember it.
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Originally Posted By craig24680:


The worst borderlands game for dei IMO is the tiny tinas wonderland


I believe you that Tiny Tina's Wonderland had DEI, but for the life of me I can't remember it.



Screenshot so you're saved from reddit

Character creation they ask pronouns
And I believe one of the main NPC was some lbgqt thing


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