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Posted: 7/22/2008 9:17:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 9:20:18 PM EST by Tolip]
Two questions-

Which one of your guns would you take with you if you were heading to a national park for 5 days, where you may encounter bears, mountain lions, snakes, criminals, etc ?

If you could buy any single gun before your trip, which would it be?


There isn't a huge probability you'll run into anything dangerous; the gun will be "just in case." It needs to be concealed, and you need to carry it along with 50 lbs of additional gear.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:19:25 PM EST
My 1911.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:20:40 PM EST
50 pounds of gear? Holy smokes thats heavy.

I would carry my 5" 1911 .45

Or maybe a s&w .44 mag
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:20:42 PM EST
Glock 20 (10 mm)
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:21:38 PM EST
I would take my XD9 because that's the only handgun I have at the moment. (I know...)

I would buy one of those S&W 500s with the 4 inch barrel.

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:21:49 PM EST
Scandium framed S&W .44mag.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:21:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
Glock 20 (10 mm)


I was trying to think of a better weapon to carry than a Glock 20... I haven't been able to yet.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:22:06 PM EST
G34 with the G26 as backup.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:22:12 PM EST

Which one of your guns would you take with you if you were heading to a national park for 5 days, where you may encounter bears, mountain lions, snakes, criminals, etc ?


I recently obtained a Remington 870. That is about the smallest caliber I'd consider in dealing with bears.


If you could buy any single gun before your trip, which would it be?


One of the larger Marlin lever actions: 444, MAYBE as small as a .44 Magnum.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:25:07 PM EST
Well, I'd feel safest with my .44, but it might be a bit heavy.

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:26:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:

Which one of your guns would you take with you if you were heading to a national park for 5 days, where you may encounter bears, mountain lions, snakes, criminals, etc ?


I recently obtained a Remington 870. That is about the smallest caliber I'd consider in dealing with bears.


If you could buy any single gun before your trip, which would it be?


One of the larger Marlin lever actions: 444, MAYBE as small as a .44 Magnum.


Do you think you would be able to pull it out of your pack quickly enough if you needed it?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:41:01 PM EST

My Yugo Underfolder
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:49:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tolip:

Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
Glock 20 (10 mm)


I was trying to think of a better weapon to carry than a Glock 20... I haven't been able to yet.


Me either, stuck with a nine for now though
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:49:56 PM EST
Model 65-3

I would but a .44 if I hadda buy one.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:52:09 PM EST
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:54:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)


Maybe that's why it's going to be "concealed".

I took my Beretta 96 on my last backpacking trip. Open carry.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:56:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)


This is simply a hypothetical.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:56:40 PM EST
I don't usually worry about the animals as much as I do other humans. For me, I usually carry my EDC Glock 23C. If I was really concerned I would take a S&W 500 w/ 4" barrel.

BTW - 50 lbs for 5 days is a lot. Break it down for us if you don't mind. I'm curious as to what you are taking.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 9:58:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Arcteryx:
I don't usually worry about the animals as much as I do other humans. For me, I usually carry my EDC Glock 23C. If I was really concerned I would take a S&W 500 w/ 4" barrel.

BTW - 50 lbs for 5 days is a lot. Break it down for us if you don't mind. I'm curious as to what you are taking.


I did 80 lbs for 5 days. <shrug>
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:01:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tolip:

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)


This is simply a hypothetical.


Gotcha
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:04:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Arcteryx:
I don't usually worry about the animals as much as I do other humans. For me, I usually carry my EDC Glock 23C. If I was really concerned I would take a S&W 500 w/ 4" barrel.

BTW - 50 lbs for 5 days is a lot. Break it down for us if you don't mind. I'm curious as to what you are taking.


50lbs isn't all that bad, but maybe I should have just said "a heavy pack." I wanted to emphasize that the added weight of a minigun may be a bit much.

As I said, this is hypothetical.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:14:15 PM EST
As for the weight, my pack was 45lbs on my last trip and it was quite heavy. I'm going to try to get it under 40lbs for the next trip.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:23:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By badfish274:

Originally Posted By Arcteryx:
I don't usually worry about the animals as much as I do other humans. For me, I usually carry my EDC Glock 23C. If I was really concerned I would take a S&W 500 w/ 4" barrel.

BTW - 50 lbs for 5 days is a lot. Break it down for us if you don't mind. I'm curious as to what you are taking.


I did 80 lbs for 5 days. <shrug>




/sarcasm

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:24:52 PM EST
LAR Grizzly .45 Win. Mag.

I use a holster set-up that is on the hip belt of my Gregory backpack so the pistol is always with me. Carry another for use in camp or while fishing.

I also used to have a P-tex scabbard for my backpack that would mount alongside using the straps. It was difficult to access, but I could do it with practice. Loaned it to a 'buddy' and it never came back.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:26:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)


Correct you aren't. That said I've never been turned away when I've told the Ranger at the Entrance Station that I had a pistol locked and unloaded. I've also never had a Ranger express any interest at all in anything he couldn't see in a pack or a vehicle.


I would consider my Ruger Vaquero in 45 with Cor-Bon and probably have the M-92 Winchester Clone in 45 also. Possibly the 870 if not going to be hoofing much.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:29:28 PM EST
I'd have an excuse to run out and find myself a nice 4" M29 to match the 6" I already own. If I couldn't find one, I'd load up some heavy 180 grain hard cast loads for my M28.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:32:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 10:33:01 PM EST by Leadbetter]

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
I didn't think you were allowed to carry in National Parks...only National Forests.

(not trying to sound difficult or like an ass, just been doing a lot of research on the topic because I was curious myself.)


Correct you aren't. That said I've never been turned away when I've told the Ranger at the Entrance Station that I had a pistol locked and unloaded. I've also never had a Ranger express any interest at all in anything he couldn't see in a pack or a vehicle.


I would consider my Ruger Vaquero in 45 with Cor-Bon and probably have the M-92 Winchester Clone in 45 also. Possibly the 870 if not going to be hoofing much.


How exactly am I wrong?

You can of course have a firearm locked in your vehicle.

Carrying it is a whole different story.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:34:16 PM EST
my 1911

if I could go to BUY one, a 10mm 1911.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 10:51:18 PM EST
This is my custom 44 Magnum Ruger Redhawk. It's main job in life is a hiking/camping/home defense gun and is why I had it built. It'll take down ANYTHING I choose to shoot with it in North America.

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:30:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 11:32:34 PM EST by Dave_A]
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....

Weapon is for emergencies only - I'm not packing a cannon...

If I actually thought I would encounter hostile critters... 18" Moss 500, folding stock... In the pack....
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:31:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....


9mm would slightly annoy a brown bear.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:33:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....


9mm would slightly annoy a brown bear.


All pistol calibers are inadequate for bear...

The chance of getting attacked by a bear would not be my primary concern...

Meth-heads & having a survival weapon if lost are more likely problems...

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:34:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....


9mm would slightly annoy a brown bear.


All pistol calibers are inadequate for bear...

The chance of getting attacked by a bear would not be my primary concern...

Meth-heads & having a survival weapon if lost are more likely problems...



Fair enough.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:39:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....

Weapon is for emergencies only - I'm not packing a cannon...

If I actually thought I would encounter hostile critters... 18" Moss 500, folding stock... In the pack....


9mm is a very poor choice for a possible bear/lion encounter backpacking gun. The shotgun would be great but getting it out of the pack when a pissed off bear charges you out of the bush would be near impossible. Packing a good big bore on your hip is your only real option, now just choose your favorite big bore caliber.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:42:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By jaflowers:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
HK USP 9mm, drop-leg holster....

Weapon is for emergencies only - I'm not packing a cannon...

If I actually thought I would encounter hostile critters... 18" Moss 500, folding stock... In the pack....


9mm is a very poor choice for a possible bear/lion encounter backpacking gun. The shotgun would be great but getting it out of the pack when a pissed off bear charges you out of the bush would be near impossible. Packing a good big bore on your hip is your only real option, now just choose your favorite big bore caliber.


Like I said...

I'm more likely to have meth-cook problems than critter issues...
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:43:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
All pistol calibers are inadequate for bear...



Come on Dave, you know that quite a few black and brown bears have been easily taken down with big bore handguns over the last 80 years. They are not even remotely "inadequate" and at times on the small black bears, they are a bit overkill.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:43:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

I'm more likely to have meth-cook problems than critter issues...


True, I'll go with you on that one.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:45:03 PM EST
As for my answer to this thread, a smaller frame 357 revolver.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 11:50:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By jaflowers:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
All pistol calibers are inadequate for bear...



Come on Dave, you know that quite a few black and brown bears have been easily taken down with big bore handguns over the last 80 years. They are not even remotely "inadequate" and at times on the small black bears, they are a bit overkill.


Pistol bear kills are, quite simply, luck...

I've heard of both species being taken down with 9mm and .40SW service pistols (park rangers, cops, etc)...

Doesn't mean I'd call those 'adequate' calibers...
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