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4/7/2017 1:39:37 PM EDT
Anybody else work with rfids and have much working knowledge of EPC2? I'm here in northern Africa right now, and had about 1000 active tags get shut off during shipment from Turkey to Egypt. The access codes on the p400 passives was stored in an unusual place in the user memory (by design) and when reviewing in taglab, they weren't wiped to 0000s, but restored to default. So I'm at a loss. What the hell could return a bunch of gen 2 EPC2 chips to default? Never seen anything like this before. As a fun side note, I was forced to come up with a field activation kit, and field engineering is always fun.
4/7/2017 2:54:59 PM EDT
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With all the different people here, I figured someone else would.
4/8/2017 12:36:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Worth one last try.
4/8/2017 12:42:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Sorry I know nothing about those. 
4/8/2017 12:53:30 PM EDT
[#4]
No idea but bump for op.
4/8/2017 12:55:22 PM EDT
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4/8/2017 1:01:12 PM EDT
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What class of gen 2 chips?  

Was it verified correct prior to shipment?  (Nobody checked if verified after write)

Was it locked to prevent accidental changes?

From an issue I heard about on Gen 2 class 4 some have had unintentional resets iirc

By no means an expert. Wife still uses them in current role in Africa and I did in past as well.  (Sub-Saharan)
4/8/2017 1:09:17 PM EDT
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Free bump.

I  have a coworker who may know but won't be able to check with him until Monday.
4/8/2017 1:12:25 PM EDT
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Default in the user memory space, or default in the ID space?

I haven't dealt with them much, just playing around at hobby level.   I know the new ones come with a few kilobytes of storage, is that what you are referring to?

Either way, if all of them (how many?) were reset, I'd contact the manufacturer and see what they know, they might want a sample if it was a deliberate re-write if password was unknown.
4/8/2017 1:18:30 PM EDT
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Solar flare?


Did a transformer blow?

They used for inventory and all together or spread out over an area?


Sabotage?
4/8/2017 1:41:06 PM EDT
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What class of gen 2 chips?  

Was it verified correct prior to shipment?  (Nobody checked if verified after write)

Was it locked to prevent accidental changes?

From an issue I heard about on Gen 2 class 4 some have had unintentional resets iirc

By no means an expert. Wife still uses them in current role in Africa and I did in past as well.  (Sub-Saharan)
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Active so different "class" structure, the p400 passive is only there as a default bank and to call to write to the active. These were verified on and processed out of the gate readers in Turkey. Boom they arrive in egypt and by the time we get them after the customs delay we have inactive chips. We've been storing our on off commands in the user memory bank because it's a lot harder to guess correctly in 2k bits instead of 128 for the standard RPC bank. Locked, not changed on the last four like most do, and no kill command was used because I can still talk to them. I honestly can't process what could have happened. The omni powers are the best chips on the market and should stand up to any type of interference.
4/8/2017 1:44:17 PM EDT
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Default in the user memory space, or default in the ID space?

I haven't dealt with them much, just playing around at hobby level.   I know the new ones come with a few kilobytes of storage, is that what you are referring to?

Either way, if all of them (how many?) were reset, I'd contact the manufacturer and see what they know, they might want a sample if it was a deliberate re-write if password was unknown.
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Little over 1,000 tags spread out over 6 weeks. All the shipments before, fine. The newer shipments from this week, fine. Early February to now? Completely reset. First thing I did was run the id's to see if it was a production batch; nope. Nothing in sequence. It lined up with shipments as wellong, and I really don't believe the Egyptian government is capable of this.
4/8/2017 1:50:22 PM EDT
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