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1/22/2020 12:12:56 PM
Posted: 9/18/2009 7:23:11 AM EST
Anybody remember President Andrew Jackson? His political party?

Betrayer of the very people who saved his life at Horshoe Bend, AL?

What is that John Mellencamp once sang:

Some people ain't no damn good
You can't trust 'em, you can't love em
No good deed goes unpunished


Aptly describes the Democratic Party of the US
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:31:21 AM EST
I have no use for him either.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:51:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 7:53:45 AM EST by Shootist_Jeff]
You mean the only President to eliminate US debt?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:56:29 AM EST
Ya know, Jackson did some shitty stuff, but at least he understood that they Judiciary was the the least dangeraous branch. I am tired of executives and legislatures (on all levels of government) bowing down to Judges who refuse to obey the Constitution or the expressed will of the people. Every once in a while we need an executive who will tell the judiciary to FOAD or follow the Constitution. I don't agree with what Jackson did to the Cherokee but there is much wisdom in the quote "Marshall made his decision...now let him enforce it."
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:57:48 AM EST
My point is Democrats screw over their friends and allies and always have.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 8:07:10 AM EST
My favorite President
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 10:45:02 AM EST
I would argue that a democrat in jacksons day was a totally different animal than what we have now, but if he were alive today i would give you 100 bucks to say it to his face.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 10:47:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 10:48:12 AM EST by -Duke-Nukem-]
I wonder what Gen. Jackson would do about how Wall Street and our banking institutions are behaving today, as compared to how Bush and Obama have dealt with them in the last year or so?

Heh.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 10:58:44 AM EST
Jackson was a hero. His loyalty was to the American people, not Indians.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:29:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By BamaTrapper:
Jackson was a hero. His loyalty was to the American people, not Indians.


So you support what he did to the Cherokee Nation after they saved his arse at Horseshoe Bend??

Nice
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:42:05 PM EST
I believe the Cherokee people, of all tribes, were the ones we could have coexisted with. They actually adopted the settlers way of life. What happened to them was a travesty.

That being said, it's pretty cool when a United States President beats the living shit out of a would-be assassin with his cane!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:44:14 PM EST
His nickname was "jackass". Hence the symbol of the Democrat Party.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:47:18 PM EST
Jackson wasn't perfect, but he did fight the bankers who were trying to take over America. He succeeded in killing the 2nd National Bank, and he paid off most of the national debt. When Jackson left office, the debt was only $36,000 dollars.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:50:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By BamaTrapper:
Jackson was a hero. His loyalty was to the American people, not Indians.


So you support what he did to the Cherokee Nation after they saved his arse at Horseshoe Bend??

Nice


It's called war. There are winners and losers. Nice has no place in a struggle between civilizations when survival is at stake. Nice cultures finish last. We are going to learn that the hard way.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:58:20 PM EST
Why are you guys talking about me? I didn't do nuff'n
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:00:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By BamaTrapper:
Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By BamaTrapper:
Jackson was a hero. His loyalty was to the American people, not Indians.


So you support what he did to the Cherokee Nation after they saved his arse at Horseshoe Bend??

Nice


It's called war. There are winners and losers. Nice has no place in a struggle between civilizations when survival is at stake. Nice cultures finish last. We are going to learn that the hard way.



There was no war between the US and the Cherokee.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:02:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By BamaTrapper:
Jackson was a hero. His loyalty was to the American people, not Indians.


So you support what he did to the Cherokee Nation after they saved his arse at Horseshoe Bend??

Nice

This emigration should be voluntary, for it would be as cruel as unjust to compel the aborigines to abandon the graves of their fathers and seek a home in a distant land. But they should be distinctly informed that if they remain within the limits of the States they must be subject to their laws. In return for their obedience as individuals they will without doubt be protected in the enjoyment of those possessions which they have improved by their industry.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:04:42 PM EST
I have no beefs with Old Hickory.
I'd take him over Carter/ Hussein anyday...
If you can make that comparison
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:15:16 PM EST
As with every Jackson thread, I'm forced to point out that the trail of tears occurred 1.5 years after his presidency.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:18:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By killingmachine123:
As with every Jackson thread, I'm forced to point out that the trail of tears occurred 1.5 years after his presidency.

But he's the one who signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830 into law.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:30:48 PM EST
I am a direct decendent of him. Watch it!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:34:03 PM EST
Andrew Jackson was the best president in American history. If I had lived back then I would have been a Democrat and I would have voted for him both times.
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