Originally Posted By builderbob12:
didnt someone warn that the truth was keeping him up at night  and was scared it might break some people mabe the suicides are from finding the truth

Originally Posted By Herc:
So we're up to 30 years, and NASA/Nuclear has turned into pretty much anybody worldwide?

This is too far reaching, it's like the Alaskan triangle. "Most missing persons cases in Alaska are inside the triangle!" oooohhhh scary, but we don't define what percentage of cases, or the exact corners of the triangle. The first and third largest cities in AK are two corners and the second largest is smack dab in the middle. If the Anchorage corner is drawn a bit generously, you can include 80-90% of the population inside the triangle. As a result you would expect the vast majority of missing person cases inside the triangle, after all you need people for them to go missing.

What we are seeing with the scientists is how a coverup works, adding people who's deaths had nothing to do with an outside influence, or who are completely unrelated is the ammo needed to make the whole thing go away. It's not necessarily the people behind the coverup adding the nonsense, it's just people who are interested who think quantity is more important than quality. After that it's easy to make it go away, just steer the investigation to focus on the people who were legit deaths and away from the handful of questionable cases.

The key cases are going to be the HVAC tech, the Custodian, the guy who's obituary said "in lieu of flowers, donate to Alcoholics Anonymous." and the guy who had chronic hip and back pain, was being treated for depression with suicidal tendencies, told people he was going to kill himself and was found with the gun still in his hand. Take those four cases, point out how this is hurting the families yada yada yada, story is over.

Originally Posted By brass:


Could be something like that.    They know everything about you, what you like, what you hate, and what you hold dear.   They control almost all the information a person consumes, so they can find the buttons and then start pushing them and once paranoia starts, it self perpetuates and then they give another phone call or visit to push them over the edge when they find the next message in 2 hours and then they're over the edge to suicidal and don't trust anybody and don't want to be alive.

Reminds me of a movie, was it Enemy Of The State?   Anyway, congressman won't vote and so he's sent a letter from his doctor say8ing he tested positive for HIV and he kills himself.   Then they find out he didn't have HIV.  That was back from before the Internet knew everything about everybody.   No matter who you are or how cold and stalwart you are, the profiles known about you from birth to present give them ways to twist emotions and push buttons far better than the most vindictive wife, and the wife needs a few years to learn the really touchy buttons which cause irrational reactions, while the profile data has that as a bullet point at on the  top of your profile.

Richard Doty is the best example with Paul Bennewitz where they fed fake signals and more to and drove him paranoid and then suicided and he just says "that's how it works" with no guilt.

Originally Posted By sq40:


Please tell me you arent and HVAC tech at Los Alamos or something.

But in all seriousness, there are probably a few of these that are legitimate suicides or accidents or medical. No doubt. But the people involved here are important enough, and in great enough numbers to warrant a federal investigation.  It’s not a joke or something to blow off. These are people.

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Not suspicious at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd8DONTrgXY

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Would-be UFO whistleblower died of accidental drug overdose after agreeing to testify to Congress By Shane Galvin

Would-be UFO whistleblower died of accidental drug overdose after agreeing to testify to Congress
By Shane Galvin

An Air Force veteran who agreed to testify before Congress about secret government UFO programs died just months before the hearings of an accidental drug overdose, The Post has learned.

Matthew James Sullivan, 39, died at his home in Falls Church, Va., on May 12, 2024 from a lethal mix of alcohol, alprazolam, cyclobenzaprine and imipramine, according to the Northern District Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

Alprazolam is generic Xanax, an anti-anxiety medication; cyclobenzaprine is a powerful prescription muscle relaxant that works on the central nervous system; imipramine is a drug for children used to treat anxiety and bedwetting.

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Originally Posted By brass:


< GD >Coincidence.  The government is huge, therefore - the number of people wanting to testify on this topic  is also huge and so this means nothing.  < / GD >

Originally Posted By brass:


I've got a few books on that, best is "How to lie with statistics" which is free online but worth buying the paper book which shows the common tricks of changing scales on graphs without mentioning it or even no labels on the axis, not mentioning sample size or standard deviation which means you can say any number you want as a percentage and it can be shown correct with a little cherry picking after the fact to justify an argument.

We all had a HUGE class on it with Covid, the holy wars over the fake statistics were gruesome and the number of people believing news was gospel vs those who would think something is a lie just because the news said it.   Hence an entire sub-forum because people didn't want to learn, they wanted to panic and parrot their favorite talking head without reading and really understanding, on both sides of the issue.    Truth was, if they were put on a vent, they died, that was like over 90% chance with the standard deviation and case studies in the public document.   The news just says "fake news!" and didn't address it beyond that since that's all they had to say as too many were still 100% faithful to the men in the box.

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:.... died just months before the hearings of an accidental drug overdose, The Post has learned

Originally Posted By cherenkov:
I'm a nuclear scientist, My wife keeps on reading these stories with a look on her face like "Is today my lucky day?"

Originally Posted By cherenkov:
I'm a nuclear scientist, My wife keeps on reading these stories with a look on her face like "Is today my lucky day?"

Originally Posted By cherenkov:
I'm a nuclear scientist, My wife keeps on reading these stories with a look on her face like "Is today my lucky day?"

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
The only problem with your “attention seeking whores” guote is that these people know they will lose everything and possibly even the lives of their family members once they publicly testify.  Look at any of the whistleblowers just about and see the fear in their eyes.  Dillon Borlan, for example.  Any of them really.  Most lose their government jobs, their pensions, their ability to get employment anywhere.  That’s not the kind of attention anyone wants.  I feel whole heartedly most are doing this as a service to the world at large that needs to know the truth about our very existence on this planet.  True patriots that aren’t afraid to tell it like it is.  One or two?  Yeah that’s a possible statistic, but 13 not counting untold how many before these we don’t even know about.  Nope I’m not buying that argument especially when you have Jake Barber and many others openly saying they know about murders that have happened to silence this.  About the only way these whistleblowers have now stayed alive IS BY BECOMING A PUBLIC FIGURE!

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
The only problem with your “attention seeking whores” guote is that these people know they will lose everything and possibly even the lives of their family members once they publicly testify.  Look at any of the whistleblowers just about and see the fear in their eyes.  Dillon Borlan, for example.  Any of them really.  Most lose their government jobs, their pensions, their ability to get employment anywhere.  That’s not the kind of attention anyone wants.  I feel whole heartedly most are doing this as a service to the world at large that needs to know the truth about our very existence on this planet.  True patriots that aren’t afraid to tell it like it is.  One or two?  Yeah that’s a possible statistic, but 13 not counting untold how many before these we don’t even know about.  Nope I’m not buying that argument especially when you have Jake Barber and many others openly saying they know about murders that have happened to silence this.  About the only way these whistleblowers have now stayed alive IS BY BECOMING A PUBLIC FIGURE!

Originally Posted By brass:


There was that addition to the Whistleblower protection program that was being pushed a couple years ago which would have them keep their salary util retirement if they truthfully testified in a whistleblower protected area, which this topic has now been covered so they get some info.  Just a matter of getting the permission to speak about it beyond SCIF meetings with elected officials.   I don't know how that bill went, but the biggest reason people weren't coming out of the woodwork was losing a living, this included Lue Elizondo but he kind of changed tack a bit I suppose to keep the income.   Others didn't and are doing random stuff to stay alive.  I know it's taxpayer money and paying people to do nothing is "wrong", but these people are like Paul Revere to get us to understand the new reality.  They've been forced to lie for decades, and that is a sin in religion so there's a line crossed where they're forced to do something against their religion.  There's a whole lot of other stuff that is protected and paid because somebody was insulted, I don't see this small number of people as breaking the bank.  From appearances before/after the disclosure process, it seems to be extremely high stress as they appear to age several years for every one that goes past.

Hope they're still going to be hounding the different legal/voting methods of releasing this information, and if not, I hope those who have the information archive dump it to several places simultaneously and then set u several magnet torrents on it so trying to chase it down to delete it would be impossible after the first hour - AKA "Catastrophic Hard Disclosure"

At the same time, they might be fair weather patriots and income overrides any beliefs they hold dear.   Who knows.

Originally Posted By Eponymous:
One of the bodies of the 11 mysteriously missing persons that had potential ties to U.S. nuclear secrets or rocket technology has been discovered by a hiker in a New Mexico national forest.

Police have identified the remains of Melissa Casias, 54, a missing Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) worker. Her disappearance became part of a wider swirl of speculation over scientists and lab-linked employees who vanished or died under unclear circumstances that spurred President Donald Trump's attention and a House Oversight Committee investigation.

The New Mexico State Police Investigations Bureau was informed Thursday that the hiker found Casias in the McGaffey Ridge area of the Carson National Forest with a handgun alongside her remains, according to a NMSPBI Facebook post late Saturday night.

"The cause and manner of death have not yet been determined," according to police, which noted the Office of the Medical Investigator (OMI) identified the remains as those of Casias and are conducting "further anthropological examination."

Casias, from Taos, New Mexico, and Anthony Chavez worked at LANL, a leading nuclear research facility in New Mexico, and both were among those marked as suspiciously missing by FBI and House Oversight investigations.

"The New Mexico State Police extend their deepest condolences to the Casias and Mondragon families during this difficult time," the agency wrote in its release.

Casias was reported missing June 25, 2025, after she failed to arrive at work and did not return home after visiting her daughter at work, police said. Her family later found that her purse, identification and cellphones had been left behind, prompting concern for her welfare and a missing person investigation.

State police said the investigation remains active and ongoing.

In an April 20 letter to FBI Direct Kash Patel, the House Oversight Committee said it was investigating "recent unconfirmed public reporting" alleging that people connected to "U.S. nuclear secrets or rocket technology" had died or vanished in recent years.

"Public reports raise questions about a possible sinister connection between a string of mysterious deaths and disappearances which began in 2023," House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., and Rep. Eric Burlison, R-Mo., wrote in a release seeking information from federal agencies.

The committee’s release said the reported cases included the two LANL, two affiliated with NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, an MIT scientist who worked on nuclear fusion – shot by the Brown University mass shooter – a pharmaceutical researcher and a government contractor who worked at a nuclear weapons component production facility.

Authorities have not announced any link between Casias’ death and the other cases and speculated they were not linked. The House letters also described the reporting under review as unconfirmed.

Casias’ disappearance had prompted a Missing Endangered Advisory from New Mexico authorities after she was last seen in the Taos area. She was 53 years old at the time.

The discovery in Carson National Forest now closes the search for Casias, but not the investigation into how she died and whose handgun was found beside her.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/hiker-discovers-body-missing-new-mexico-nuclear-lab-worker-police-say

Originally Posted By Birddog15:




"with a handgun alongside her remains"  Sounds like suicide.  Sad.

Originally Posted By brass:


I doubt it.   Suicides almost always want to be found rather than eaten by animals and rotted away for a year before being found.

Lots of times they'll dial 911 and pull the trigger or go to a hotel so it doesn't mess up their house.  She could have sent a text o somebody on delay send and been found that way, it all hinges on history of handgun and manner of death.  Shot in the back of her had 4 times for example.

Originally Posted By Birddog15:
Most people have their bodies cremated after they die.  This means that the average person doesn't care much about what happens to their meat after they are gone from it.

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:

https://t.co/X6TSEr98SI

General Mike Flynn  (@GenFlynn) May 5, 2026

Is This Where All The Scientists Have Gone?
Over the past several years, a quiet pattern has emerged that deserves far more attention than it has received. It began in July 2023 with the death of Michael David Hicks, a research scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory who worked on the DART Project and Deep Space 1. His cause of death was never publicly released. The following July, JPL principal researcher Frank Maiwald died in Los Angeles at 61. Again, no cause of death was disclosed then in June 2025, JPL aerospace engineer Monica Jacinto Reza vanished in the Angeles National Forest. She was hiking with a companion, thirty feet ahead, when she smiled, waved, and simply ceased to exist. She has never been found. That same month, Melissa Casias, an administrative staffer with security clearance at Los Alamos National Laboratory, disappeared while walking along a New Mexico roadside, her phone factory-reset and left behind. In December 2025, MIT's Dr. Nuno Loureiro, director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center and one of the world's foremost fusion physicists, was shot to death at his home near Boston. In February 2026, Caltech astrophysicist Carl Grillmair was shot on his front porch by a stranger with no apparent motive. Finally, the case that cracked the story open: retired Air Force Major General William Neil McCasland, former commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the facility long rumored in intelligence circles to house recovered Roswell materials, walked out of his Albuquerque home on February 27, 2026, leaving his phone, prescription glasses, and wearable devices behind. He has not been seen since. The full documented list of cases can be reviewed here. At least eleven individuals connected to classified nuclear, aerospace, and advanced propulsion research are now dead or missing. The White House has confirmed a formal investigation. The FBI is spearheading the effort. The House Oversight Committee has demanded briefings from the FBI, the Department of Energy, NASA, and the Department of Defense. President Trump himself called it "pretty serious stuff." These are not fringe allegations. This is the federal government confirming, on the record, that something is very wrong.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/limk_jpg-3757796.JPG

Originally Posted By brass:


"aerospace engineer Monica Jacinto Reza vanished in the Angeles National Forest. She was hiking with a companion, thirty feet ahead, when she smiled, waved, and simply ceased to exist. "

WTF, are these EBEs going home or something?