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1/10/2018 9:27:10 PM EDT
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Bullshit.  Financial markets require high speed execution.
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Blockchain tech is the future of the financial markets.
Bullshit.  Financial markets require high speed execution.
Welll now I know that you have no idea what crypto can do.
1/10/2018 9:29:01 PM EDT
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I would imagine he knows a thing or two about investing, regardless of asset class, and that helps inform his opinion.  
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Lol, this thread exemplifies what I love most about Arfcom.  It’s a place where a below average joe ditch digger has no qualms about getting online and claiming to know more about investing than Warren Buffett, who is arguably one of the most successful investors of all time (and actually believes this to be true).  Hours of entertainment to be had
He states right in the article that he doesn't know what he's talking about but offers an opinion anyway.  
I would imagine he knows a thing or two about investing, regardless of asset class, and that helps inform his opinion.  
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0210/buffetts-biggest-mistakes.aspx

http://fortune.com/2015/02/28/warren-buffett-my-100-billion-blunder/

“HOUSING HOROSCOPE

The blunder: Buffett predicted in last year's letter that the U.S. housing recovery would begin within the next year and help fuel economic growth.

The explanation: Buffett doesn't mince words and says he was "dead wrong" about this one. But he says basic biology makes it unavoidable that the country will need more houses.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2
1/10/2018 9:32:01 PM EDT
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“Warren Buffett: I was wrong on Google and 'too dumb' to appreciate Amazon
Warren Buffett told shareholders at Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting that he missed his chance to invest in Google.
Buffett has largely avoided tech stocks because he said he didn't understand many of their business models.”
“The Oracle of Omaha also professed ignorance on other big technology stocks, whose rallies he missed because he didn't quite appreciate their value proposition at first glance.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/06/warren-buffett-admits-he-made-a-mistake-on-google.html
1/10/2018 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Welll now I know that you have no idea what crypto can do.
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I am a software developer and deal with crypto (security not coins) all the time.  I just don't buy into the hype.
1/10/2018 9:35:34 PM EDT
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I have around $300 "invested" in some alt coins. It's down huge from last week, but still up 300% plus from when I bought in three weeks ago. It's play money, and I wouldn't put anything but play money into it. If it grows 100% per year in the short term, I'll be happy. I'm not in the crowd that thinks a few hundred bucks will buy a Lamborghini or a house in a year.
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The ship may have sailed but a few hundred in BTC in 2010 could buy a hundred lambos now.
1/10/2018 9:35:46 PM EDT
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From 1999
Did he ever buy these stocks?

“Buffett won't invest in tech stocks
Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett doesn't plan to invest in firms such as Microsoft and Intel because he doesn't know the industry well enough.”

https://www.cnet.com/news/buffett-wont-invest-in-tech-stocks/
1/10/2018 9:45:38 PM EDT
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But what "problem" is crypto currently looking to solve?

My life is already pretty easy with cash and credit/debit cards.

You're examples of computers and the internet solved critical problems and/or improved life somehow.
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Crypto as it stands is way easier for people in destabilized/destabilizing nations to conceal their money.

No idea if that was the original goal of bitcoin or not. Guessing not.  But, people with money in shit countries where the government can take all your valuables at a whim.  Well, crypto they cant exactlly do that.

The value in crypto is the anonymity anywhere on the planet assuming someone is around to accept it as payment.
1/10/2018 9:59:31 PM EDT
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Crypto as it stands is way easier for people in destabilized/destabilizing nations to conceal their money.

No idea if that was the original goal of bitcoin or not. Guessing not.  But, people with money in shit countries where the government can take all your valuables at a whim.  Well, crypto they cant exactlly do that.

The value in crypto is the anonymity anywhere on the planet assuming someone is around to accept it as payment.
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All they have done is transferred the risk and gained additional counter-parties, these crypto coins have not mitigated their risk.
1/10/2018 10:03:28 PM EDT
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I agree. If you can't understand the premise/mission statement of an business model , stay away.

For those who got in when it was cheap... god bless.take your profits and run
1/10/2018 10:05:09 PM EDT
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He’s a smart man but I think he’s dead wrong about this.
1/10/2018 10:11:53 PM EDT
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Greater fool theory.

Bitcoin was initially propped up by the Silk Road and money laundering in Asian countries.

It hasn't really gained popularity as a real currency and it's actually started losing places that accepted it because of long transaction times and high fees.

Taxes, regulation and reality are about to come crashing in.
1/10/2018 10:14:42 PM EDT
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He must have already sold all of his.
1/10/2018 10:15:44 PM EDT
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https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0210/buffetts-biggest-mistakes.aspx

http://fortune.com/2015/02/28/warren-buffett-my-100-billion-blunder/

“HOUSING HOROSCOPE

The blunder: Buffett predicted in last year's letter that the U.S. housing recovery would begin within the next year and help fuel economic growth.

The explanation: Buffett doesn't mince words and says he was "dead wrong" about this one. But he says basic biology makes it unavoidable that the country will need more houses.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2
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Lol, this thread exemplifies what I love most about Arfcom.  It’s a place where a below average joe ditch digger has no qualms about getting online and claiming to know more about investing than Warren Buffett, who is arguably one of the most successful investors of all time (and actually believes this to be true).  Hours of entertainment to be had
He states right in the article that he doesn't know what he's talking about but offers an opinion anyway.  
I would imagine he knows a thing or two about investing, regardless of asset class, and that helps inform his opinion.  
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0210/buffetts-biggest-mistakes.aspx

http://fortune.com/2015/02/28/warren-buffett-my-100-billion-blunder/

“HOUSING HOROSCOPE

The blunder: Buffett predicted in last year's letter that the U.S. housing recovery would begin within the next year and help fuel economic growth.

The explanation: Buffett doesn't mince words and says he was "dead wrong" about this one. But he says basic biology makes it unavoidable that the country will need more houses.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2
Yep, he’s human.  It would be unreasonable to expect to him to be right 100% of the time.  It would also be unreasonable for most people to expect themselves to be right more often than him about investing.

These are the same reasons I go to a surgeon for surgery and a mechanic for major auto repairs.  I expect that a professional, while not perfect, will generally know more about these subjects than I do.  Plus it’s just darn hard to perform surgery on yourself
1/10/2018 10:17:03 PM EDT
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740billion dollar is not a bubble . The current housing market , student loans , stock market is a bubbble
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Yes, let the 90 yr old guy inform me on cutting edge technology.
You don't need to know a damn thing about tech to know a classic bubble when you see it.
740billion dollar is not a bubble . The current housing market , student loans , stock market is a bubbble
Yeah, but those are safe investments because they're backed by the banks who have in the past caused those bubbles, been bailed out, and given bonuses and high fives to their CEOs for a job well done in wrecking the average American. Surely, this time is different.
1/10/2018 10:18:24 PM EDT
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He may be right, he may be wrong, but he's #3 richest man in the world, and he didn't get there and stay there by being stupid.  And I am sure he had missed more boats than he care to remember, but I doubt he loses sleep over them.
1/10/2018 10:23:38 PM EDT
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He may be right, he may be wrong, but he's #3 richest man in the world, and he didn't get there and stay there by being stupid.  And I am sure he had missed more boats than he care to remember, but I doubt he loses sleep over them.
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He got there because he has a lot of discipline and he invests like a girl.  His advice is perfect for 98% of your own portfolio, but every once in a while you have to roll the dice.   And the fact that cc is a badass cool technology is icing on the cake.
1/10/2018 10:24:39 PM EDT
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Bitcoin = “A fool and his money are soon parted.”
1/10/2018 10:38:02 PM EDT
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Yep, he's human.  It would be unreasonable to expect to him to be right 100% of the time.  It would also be unreasonable for most people to expect themselves to be right more often than him about investing.

These are the same reasons I go to a surgeon for surgery and a mechanic for major auto repairs.  I expect that a professional, while not perfect, will generally know more about these subjects than I do.  Plus it's just darn hard to perform surgery on yourself
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Lol, this thread exemplifies what I love most about Arfcom.  It's a place where a below average joe ditch digger has no qualms about getting online and claiming to know more about investing than Warren Buffett, who is arguably one of the most successful investors of all time (and actually believes this to be true).  Hours of entertainment to be had
He states right in the article that he doesn't know what he's talking about but offers an opinion anyway.  
I would imagine he knows a thing or two about investing, regardless of asset class, and that helps inform his opinion.  
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0210/buffetts-biggest-mistakes.aspx

http://fortune.com/2015/02/28/warren-buffett-my-100-billion-blunder/

"HOUSING HOROSCOPE

The blunder: Buffett predicted in last year's letter that the U.S. housing recovery would begin within the next year and help fuel economic growth.

The explanation: Buffett doesn't mince words and says he was "dead wrong" about this one. But he says basic biology makes it unavoidable that the country will need more houses."

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2
Yep, he's human.  It would be unreasonable to expect to him to be right 100% of the time.  It would also be unreasonable for most people to expect themselves to be right more often than him about investing.

These are the same reasons I go to a surgeon for surgery and a mechanic for major auto repairs.  I expect that a professional, while not perfect, will generally know more about these subjects than I do.  Plus it's just darn hard to perform surgery on yourself
But when you present yourself as a bastion of investing then STFU about stuff you dont know about.  Especially after youve gotten trounced on the same topic in the recent past.  He cant understand investing in google, Amazon, microsoft but hes still running his mouth today about cryptos?  Lol what a joke. If I was as miopic as he, in such a position I would hire someone to advize me of my deficincies.  What I wouldnt do is spew a bunch of horse shit and cost my investors lots of money.  But hey I guess thats the difference.
1/10/2018 10:46:16 PM EDT
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Lol.  Please direct us all to your investment tips that yield a minimum 100% rate of return this year. Thanks.
1/10/2018 11:02:48 PM EDT
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IN this thread, we find out who has no idea what "Bitcoin" really is.

First, it isn't just "Bitcoin" and second, it isn't just currency.

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Yup so many clueless people .... Crypto and blockchain go so much deeper than most realize .... Let them miss out
1/10/2018 11:15:31 PM EDT
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Lol.  Please direct us all to your investment tips that yield a minimum 100% rate of return this year. Thanks.
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Did you cash out?  If not, you didn't return shit.
1/10/2018 11:21:14 PM EDT
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Did you cash out?  If not, you didn't return shit.
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Lol.  Please direct us all to your investment tips that yield a minimum 100% rate of return this year. Thanks.
Did you cash out?  If not, you didn't return shit.
Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
1/10/2018 11:21:37 PM EDT
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Yup so many clueless people .... Crypto and blockchain go so much deeper than most realize .... Let them miss out
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Crossfit, now with blockchain technology.  
1/10/2018 11:22:32 PM EDT
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Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
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Thats the way to do it.
1/10/2018 11:24:02 PM EDT
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Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
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P.S. Hopefully your smart enough to realize that these cryptos will be the Enrons of tomorrow.
1/10/2018 11:24:37 PM EDT
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Crossfit, now with blockchain technology.  
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Do you even lift bro?
1/10/2018 11:26:10 PM EDT
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Greater fool theory.

Bitcoin was initially propped up by the Silk Road and money laundering in Asian countries.

It hasn't really gained popularity as a real currency and it's actually started losing places that accepted it because of long transaction times and high fees.

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This is early times yet.  All of these problems will either be sorted out as the technology expands, or not.

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the water quite yet.
1/10/2018 11:26:24 PM EDT
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Do you even lift bro?
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Yes, my record is immutable.
1/10/2018 11:27:55 PM EDT
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Don't "invest" in Bitcoin unless you're willing to ride the market out.  Don't use money you can't afford to lose (investing 101).

It's a gamble, but a lot of things are.
1/10/2018 11:29:34 PM EDT
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P.S. Hopefully your smart enough to realize that these cryptos will be the Enrons of tomorrow.
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Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
P.S. Hopefully your smart enough to realize that these cryptos will be the Enrons of tomorrow.
I’m hodling the Enron, Amazon, pets.com, Apple and intel of the crypto world in my portfolio right now.

If they all go to zero my life doesn’t change.
But I know this. Blockchain or whatever it morphs into will be around just like the internet today.
1/10/2018 11:33:52 PM EDT
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I’m hodling the Enron, Amazon, pets.com, Apple and intel of the crypto world in my portfolio right now.

If they all go to zero my life doesn’t change.
But I know this. Blockchain or whatever it morphs into will be around just like the internet today.
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Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
P.S. Hopefully your smart enough to realize that these cryptos will be the Enrons of tomorrow.
I’m hodling the Enron, Amazon, pets.com, Apple and intel of the crypto world in my portfolio right now.

If they all go to zero my life doesn’t change.
But I know this. Blockchain or whatever it morphs into will be around just like the internet today.
This is the correct answer.  Just like the tech bubble, there will be winners.  I'm just hoping I'm in one or two of them.
1/10/2018 11:37:21 PM EDT
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Buffett's opinion is probably based on the housing bubble
1/10/2018 11:38:15 PM EDT
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I use pandora all the time. It's already free, with ads and limited skips of course.

What else? If something will actually make life better I'm all for it. But I'm just not seeing it yet...
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Oh, so just because you don't see it must mean that it doesn't exist.  I get it...  
1/10/2018 11:39:43 PM EDT
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Crypto is gambling. Not investing.

A few people got lucky and made a lot of money.  A few people will make a little bit of money.  Most people will lose everything they put into it.

An investment needs a real world backing. Currency has governments and a nations economy behind it.  Metals have a real barrier to production

If you could mine physical gold from a hope pc system it would not take long for it to become completely worthless.

There is nothing to limit the number of crypto currency and nothing making any one of them extremely unique. They will end up being more of an easy transfer medium like PayPal than an actual currency
1/10/2018 11:40:38 PM EDT
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I’m hodling the Enron, Amazon, pets.com, Apple and intel of the crypto world in my portfolio right now.

If they all go to zero my life doesn’t change.
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Tech is always changing and morphing thats a given.  And we certainly will see elements of the bitcoin movement advanced into the future.  However, I don't think there is a future in Bitcoin or the alt coins we see today.  This technology is nothing more than a novel process of (mostly) existing technology, but it is highly inefficient and laughable if it wasn't taken so serious.  Distributed architectures are great during times of innovation and growth, but centralization will eventually result to solve the legitimate concerns that plague these coin networks, and quite frankly any decentralized model.  The philosophy of bitcoin is all bullshit, and I fear that people don't understand monetary history.
1/10/2018 11:43:37 PM EDT
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Tech is always changing and morphing thats a given.  And we certainly will see elements of the bitcoin movement advanced into the future.  However, I don't think there is a future in Bitcoin or the alt coins we see today.  This technology is nothing more than a novel process of (mostly) existing technology, but it is highly inefficient and laughable if it wasn't taken so serious.  Distributed architectures are great during times of innovation and growth, but centralization will eventually result to solve the legitimate concerns that plague these coin networks, and quite frankly any decentralized model.  The philosophy of bitcoin is all bullshit, and I fear that people don't understand monetary history.
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I’m hodling the Enron, Amazon, pets.com, Apple and intel of the crypto world in my portfolio right now.

If they all go to zero my life doesn’t change.
But I know this. Blockchain or whatever it morphs into will be around just like the internet today.
Tech is always changing and morphing thats a given.  And we certainly will see elements of the bitcoin movement advanced into the future.  However, I don't think there is a future in Bitcoin or the alt coins we see today.  This technology is nothing more than a novel process of (mostly) existing technology, but it is highly inefficient and laughable if it wasn't taken so serious.  Distributed architectures are great during times of innovation and growth, but centralization will eventually result to solve the legitimate concerns that plague these coin networks, and quite frankly any decentralized model.  The philosophy of bitcoin is all bullshit, and I fear that people don't understand monetary history.
Pretty sure economist Hernando de Soto knows monetary history.

““About 80 percent of the world’s population is unable to enter into the modern global economy due to lack of visible and standardized property records. Billions of people have resources that cannot easily be transformed into productive capital” Hernando de Soto said in a statement. “Blockchain is a powerful tool to solve these structural issues, which are some of the principal causes of poverty and conflict.”
https://investorplace.com/2017/12/overstock-com-working-on-blockchain-project/
1/10/2018 11:48:13 PM EDT
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Because if you tried to make it worthless, it's backed up by a nuclear arsenal.

What makes a bitcoin valuable? A bunch of weebs on the internet who are gonna put their fedoras on and type real fast on their keyboards while breathing heavy?
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Why is the USD valuable?
Because if you tried to make it worthless, it's backed up by a nuclear arsenal.

What makes a bitcoin valuable? A bunch of weebs on the internet who are gonna put their fedoras on and type real fast on their keyboards while breathing heavy?
That's fucking funny right there.  Our own damn government is doing a wonderful job of making it worthless all by themselves.
1/10/2018 11:48:26 PM EDT
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Depends on whether or not that guy is Warren Buffet
1/10/2018 11:52:26 PM EDT
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I'm not into crypto, but I don't think you understand what federal reserve note actually is, either.
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My thoughts exactly. There isn't shit backing the US dollar.
1/10/2018 11:53:03 PM EDT
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Depends on whether or not that guy is Warren Buffet
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Yes, let the 90 yr old guy inform me on cutting edge technology.
Depends on whether or not that guy is Warren Buffet
I sure wouldn't have taken his advice on Google, Microsoft or Apple.  He admits he knows nothing on tech yet offers an opinion.  My guess is he see this as a competitor to some of his businesses, like the railroads versus the pipelines, and is trying to stem the tide.
1/10/2018 11:58:13 PM EDT
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Pretty sure economist Hernando de Soto knows monetary history.

““About 80 percent of the world’s population is unable to enter into the modern global economy due to lack of visible and standardized property records. Billions of people have resources that cannot easily be transformed into productive capital” Hernando de Soto said in a statement. “Blockchain is a powerful tool to solve these structural issues, which are some of the principal causes of poverty and conflict.”
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He is digging deeper than economics with that statement.  In other words, he expects the savior of blockchain technology to heal the world's moral dilemmas.  He may be a swell guy, but it ain't going to happen.
1/10/2018 11:59:38 PM EDT
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I have such a crush on all the nation-state Fiat currency backers. Aren’t they just the cutest little starry eyed innocents?
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You sure do spell "dumb asses" awfully strange.  
1/11/2018 12:08:47 AM EDT
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If crypto is so valuable, you should be trying to convince others to sell so you can buy low. If you have to convince me to buy it, it's a pyramid scheme.

Think about it like Colt Pythons. If Warren Buffett came out and said Colt Pythons are worthless, a lot of savy gun people would be happy and welcome the message. No one has to convince you that Colt Pythons are valuable.
1/11/2018 12:16:11 AM EDT
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Been playing with house money for awhile.

BRB going to check my Enron stock.
P.S. Hopefully your smart enough to realize that these cryptos will be the Enrons of tomorrow.
I'm sure he's at least smart enough not to use "your" instead of "you're", but please continue to enlighten us with your brilliance.  It's amusing, really it is...  
1/11/2018 12:17:09 AM EDT
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I'm sure he's at least smart enough not to use "your" instead of "you're", but please continue to enlighten us with your brilliance.  It's amusing, really it is...  
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Yes you can attack his spelling, but please attack his message.
1/11/2018 12:18:56 AM EDT
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I watched that video earlier. He says Bitcoin will come to an end which I agree will happen. It's old and outdated compared to other crypto and blockchain alternatives out there. It will die a slow death, and may go way higher before it does. However it will be replaced with better, faster, cheaper options that are growing right now.

However Buffet is an idiot. He talks about wanting to buy puts on bitcoin, but says he wouldn't because he doesn't understand it.

The Tech is here to stay. What part and who is the real question.
1/11/2018 12:21:28 AM EDT
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The same thing was said about the dot-com boom. The smart money got in, made a killing, and eased out before the whole thing blew up in people's faces.
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Dot-com bubble is a bad example.  Many of those business models were vindicated 10 years later, and to a stunning degree.

...or maybe it's a good example.  
1/11/2018 12:22:53 AM EDT
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When you buy a stock you buy a piece of that company.

When you buy bitcoin what do you get?
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Do you invest in stocks?
When you buy a stock you buy a piece of that company.

When you buy bitcoin what do you get?
Rich!  
1/11/2018 12:24:22 AM EDT
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Do you invest in stocks?
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When you buy bitcoin what do you get?
Rich!  
1/11/2018 12:26:36 AM EDT
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This thread crashed the crypto markets.

Thanks a lot guys

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