[ARCHIVED THREAD] - IDPA bans the Sig P320 (Page 2 of 7)
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Quoted: Probably a good question. Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this. I have four Sig pistols. I have Sig red dots and weapon lights. They will never see another penny from me. If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin' Of course, much has to do with military contracts i suppose This |
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Quoted: It's already begun. People have been talking about their LGS refusing to take in P320s and pulling them off the shelves. One online retailer in the big thread has pulled all P320s from available inventory. Gun Broker has no-reserve starting at $0.01 P320s now, too. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first. Online retailers have already begun removing them from available inventory. It's just a matter of time, now. That is going to be the nail in the coffin. When dealers start refusing to sell them. It's already begun. People have been talking about their LGS refusing to take in P320s and pulling them off the shelves. One online retailer in the big thread has pulled all P320s from available inventory. Gun Broker has no-reserve starting at $0.01 P320s now, too. I am a dealer myself. I would think some might see it a possible liability, but hard to say. With how everyone and their mom are suing manufacturers these days, it is only matter of time before the dealers are next. Hey, you sold me this gun and it went off on its own. On a side note, you know Sig isn't going to have your back. Hell, they might even sue dealers who are refusing to sell them. Large dealers, like Proven, have contracts with them. Sig's response has been as bad as you can in this situation. They have done more damage themselves than the 320 itself. |
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Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first. Hypothetically, say somebody purchases a 320, and B O O M, the pistol mysteriously fires uncommanded, and the guy gets shot. How long until lawyers step in, and start suing LGS for selling Sigs that have a now well documented issue and history (albeit not officially proven) of firing. Seems like LGS will cease selling them soon, to cover their asses. |
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Quoted: Not unless there is a P320 switch that can be installed. Otherwise Glock switch will dominate. Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling that the P320 is going to be prolific in certain dense , ahem, urban areas in the near future. Not unless there is a P320 switch that can be installed. Otherwise Glock switch will dominate. Bruh, the Sig don't need no switch, naw mean. You just shake it like it's hot. |
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Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first. https://www.davidsonsinc.com/firearms/pistols?brand_id=Sig%20Sauer&caliber=9mm%20Luger&in_stock=1&product_list_order=low_to_high&product_list_limit=30 |
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Quoted: Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first. https://www.davidsonsinc.com/firearms/pistols?brand_id=Sig%20Sauer&caliber=9mm%20Luger&in_stock=1&product_list_order=low_to_high&product_list_limit=30 That's the one I was thinking of earlier. |
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Quoted: It's already begun. People have been talking about their LGS refusing to take in P320s and pulling them off the shelves. One online retailer in the big thread has pulled all P320s from available inventory. Gun Broker has no-reserve starting at $0.01 P320s now, too. My most local shop yanked new and consignment P320s from the gun case earlier this week. |
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Quoted: So, does Sig USA make it past 2028 ? Quoted: So, does Sig USA make it past 2028 ? Probably. Glock pulled the exact same shit (no recall, plus a class-action lawsuit) and they made it through the storm. Grok3 (DeeperSearch): A significant aspect of the controversy is a class action lawsuit filed in August 2019 by David Melian and Christopher George, case number 2:19-cv-04872, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona. The lawsuit alleges that certain Glock models, including the Glock 21, suffer from an "unsupported chamber defect" due to a feed ramp that is too long, causing insufficient support at the 6 o'clock position. This defect, according to the plaintiffs, exerts unreasonable pressure on the round, leading to "blowouts" or "kabooms," described as dangerous situations where the round or casing separates and dislodges, potentially causing severe injuries such as blindness, leg injuries, hearing loss, and thumb/finger pain. The lawsuit claims Glock failed to warn consumers and continues to market these handguns as safe, despite reports from law enforcement and individual lawsuits, including a 2015 $1 million claim by a hunter and a 2008 incident where a Florida police department ceased using Glock .45 guns after two explosions. Do you see any similarities? |
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Quoted: Might replace the HiPoint as the weapon of choice. Had the same thought yesterday. Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling that the P320 is going to be prolific in certain dense , ahem, urban areas in the near future. Might replace the HiPoint as the weapon of choice. Had the same thought yesterday. Project EBTson |
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Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they're the first. A large multi-state gun dealer I use has had 40+ listed on their GunBroker page, which was previously limited to used guns. They've already lowered the prices from the auctions that ended in the last week. |
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No P320 huh. Interesting. |
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This obviously wouldn't stop all the issues, but would rule out items caught in the trigger guard (unless the trigger safety was a 5 MIM part that failed). Attached File |
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Quoted: I am a dealer myself. I would think some might see it a possible liability, but hard to say. With how everyone and their mom are suing manufacturers these days, it is only matter of time before the dealers are next. Hey, you sold me this gun and it went off on its own. On a side note, you know Sig isn't going to have your back. Hell, they might even sue dealers who are refusing to sell them. Large dealers, like Proven, have contracts with them. Sig's response has been as bad as you can in this situation. They have done more damage themselves than the 320 itself. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first. Online retailers have already begun removing them from available inventory. It's just a matter of time, now. That is going to be the nail in the coffin. When dealers start refusing to sell them. It's already begun. People have been talking about their LGS refusing to take in P320s and pulling them off the shelves. One online retailer in the big thread has pulled all P320s from available inventory. Gun Broker has no-reserve starting at $0.01 P320s now, too. I am a dealer myself. I would think some might see it a possible liability, but hard to say. With how everyone and their mom are suing manufacturers these days, it is only matter of time before the dealers are next. Hey, you sold me this gun and it went off on its own. On a side note, you know Sig isn't going to have your back. Hell, they might even sue dealers who are refusing to sell them. Large dealers, like Proven, have contracts with them. Sig's response has been as bad as you can in this situation. They have done more damage themselves than the 320 itself. My dealer’s one and only planned stop at SHOT this year was at Sig. He’s going to be in a tough spot unless Sig relents on the P320. |
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Quoted: They need to cancel that contract with prejudice and go run to Quoted: Quoted: If it weren't for that pesky DOD contract they probably would. Sig is a little bit pregnant on this one. They need to cancel that contract with prejudice and go run to 
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What does this picture mean? |
IMHO, and yeppers opinions are totally like buttholes  , this is the very one, the specific variant that .mil shoulda adopted. I think these first came out around that time following the change to the 320. I personally just love everything about it. And she's a longer barrel, I think a 5. 
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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - IDPA bans the Sig P320 (Page 2 of 7)
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