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Attached File Two of my Skorpions. Hey, at least they're East German. Attached File |
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Really considering buying one without a receiver. I’m adding my pennies for a 3D printers and this would be a great project to go along with my Flux and Recover. Loaded up with some Underwood defensive ammo, this would be a reasonably capable defensive firearm that fits in a manbag. |
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Quoted: Holy crap I didn't need to see this.  Are there any build threads here? Use recoil assembly to hammer in the barrel. Drill and pin. Build up lower, I used one of the gun disassembly animations on YouTube as a reference. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think I need to rivet the trigger guard or something. Go shoot it. I should stamp mine so I can get more of the Klobb experience. I built it in about an hour I think. |
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Quoted: But not easy to find. I’ve seen 1 box on the shelf in 2 years, and I had a gun store employee say nobody makes ammo in that caliber anymore Quoted: Quoted: They are fun, and .32 is easy to suppress. But not easy to find. I’ve seen 1 box on the shelf in 2 years, and I had a gun store employee say nobody makes ammo in that caliber anymore I just put a few boxes in everytime I place an order with SG Ammo. A lot of options out there. |
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Quoted: Am I smoking crack? If one were so inclined: Barrel for 120 https://bowmanarms.com/shop-all/vz-61-barrel-5-5-suppressor-spec/ Parts kit for 139 https://bowmanarms.com/parts-kits/vz-61-klobb-kit-base-model/ Then 3d print one of the already extant receiver stls... I dunno, 5 bucks in plastic? OTD for $264 before taxes/tax stamps? Looks like at least one of these receiver designs will let you use AR fcg parts, too. https://odysee.com/@TheGatalog-PrintableFramesReceivers:9/CZAR-Vz61-v1.0:3 Print one of the versions with a 1913 rail on the back and buy or print a brace to save on taxes |
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Quoted: But not easy to find. I’ve seen 1 box on the shelf in 2 years, and I had a gun store employee say nobody makes ammo in that caliber anymore Only companies making it anymore are ones nobody has heard of like Federal, Remington, Hornady, PMC, CCI, Magtech, Winchester, Speer, PPU, S&B, Fiochi, Underwood, Buffalo Bore. Sounds like your gunstores suck. |
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Quoted: So is Bowman compromised or was it on your side? Quoted: Quoted: FYI, the virtual card I used to order decided to make a purchase on amazon. So watch the card you used to order for hanky business. So is Bowman compromised or was it on your side? Virtual cards are usually generated for ONE merchant (I advise everyone to use these for all online purchasing) so when one is compromised it's either at the merchant (99.999999%) or theoretically at the issuing bank/card company (pretty much never). |
Built mine up today. The tortort receiver will not allow use of the rate reducer without additional milling. I already had to mill the slot for the auto sear - didn’t want to set up for another operation - and to be honest, I’d rather it shoot faster  Now I’m just waiting for ammo to show up. 
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Quoted: Are the Tortort receivers available without the parts kit? Kharn Yes https://m13industries.com/index.php?route=product/product&language=en-gb&product_id=160&path=20_84 |
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Is Bowman arms a member or sponsor here? I recieved my "kits" today and have some issues. Shipped in a plastic bag, spring and shit hanging out, barrels shipped loose in the same bag bouncing around exposed threads, who knows whats missing or what's there. Top it off with one reciever arrived, out of two ordered, wheres the other one? Who knows... They've had my $1058 for 3 weeks now and this is what I get after the wait? Is this normal for them? Called the shop left a message. |
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Quoted: Is Bowman arms a member or sponsor here? I recieved my "kits" today and have some issues. Shipped in a plastic bag, spring and shit hanging out, barrels shipped loose in the same bag bouncing around exposed threads, who knows whats missing or what's there. Top it off with one reciever arrived, out of two ordered, wheres the other one? Who knows... They've had my $1058 for 3 weeks now and this is what I get after the wait? Is this normal for them? Called the shop left a message. Thats crazy. My kit came nicely packed up in a feed sack. Barrel was in its own container. I got my receiver from a different vendor before they made this deal. |
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Quoted: Thats crazy. My kit came nicely packed up in a feed sack. Barrel was in its own container. I got my receiver from a different vendor before they made this deal. This. I ordered some more odds and ends. My barrel was wrapped in plastic inside a vz61 holster, the parts kit in a bag inside a feed sack, and the pile of mags bundled together with about 5 miles of clear packing wrap. All this was inside a big bubble mailer wrapped in black plastic. |
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I had a few of these made locally if anyone is interested. Anodized and aluminum with a 4th slot added and QD sling mount. Pictured is the original prototype. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: I installed the rate reducer. I know it's not needed. There was no fitting or problems. I used a RT lower for the build. https://i.postimg.cc/157KpdC1/Tk-1-lower012.jpg They kind of over engineered the rate reducer.  |
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Quoted: I had a few of these made locally if anyone is interested. Anodized and aluminum with a 4th slot added and QD sling mount. Pictured is the original prototype. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/374700/Scorp_1_jpg-3545787.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/374700/Scorp_2_jpg-3545788.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/374700/Scorpion_mounts_jpg-3545794.JPG I feel like that's something Snake Plissken would fly into New York with in his stealth glider. Do want. |
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Quoted: I feel like that's something Snake Plissken would fly into New York with in his stealth glider. Do want. I have 3 Scorps that I bought from the Chattanooga importer. No fitting issues on all three but the recess is a snug fit. With varying tolerances, may or may not need minor fitting. Obviously for the model already threaded for the factory stock/plate hardware. |
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Quoted: 380 requires possible different upper and possibly different lower. I believe the major difference is in the feed ramp. Czechpoint has 22LR uppers every now and then. Wish I had a tortort but I had to deal with that asshole at recon for my lower. Jerry? Old man is great to deal with. |