[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fox News confirms Michael Cohen strikes plea deal with prosecutors (Page 4 of 12)
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I bet Mr Trump wishes he wasn't so cheap over the hush money paid to the whores, pennies in his piggybank in the scheme of things. Of course the only thing Mr Trump loves better than paying off whores is paying off whores from somebody else's piggybanks. |
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DOH! "Berman is a Trump appointee with ties to Rudy Giuliani who donated money to the 2016 Trump campaign, and is a longtime Trump ally and supporter." RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! Quoted:
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Deputy US Attorney speaking now. I think the US Attorney recused himself...  
ETA: He did. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-attorney-trump-appointee-recused-michael-cohen-investigation/story?id=54365546 "Berman is a Trump appointee with ties to Rudy Giuliani who donated money to the 2016 Trump campaign, and is a longtime Trump ally and supporter." RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! I don't think it was the political donations (that's not exactly uncommon) - it was the fact that Trump "interviewed" him for the job - which is highly unusual. It was the right thing for him to do to even avoid the appearance of conflict. |
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Quoted: Politicians really don't want this to happen... Otherwise every single one of them is going to violate campaign finance law... Trump has paid people off for years..before ever running for president...but because he is running a campaign..now it's against the law? lol https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/tony-podesta-under-investigation-following-special-counsel-referral.html Federal prosecutors said to be investigating lobbyist Tony Podesta after special counsel referral Christine Wang| @christiiineeee Published 7:58 PM ET Tue, 31 July 2018Updated 8:47 AM ET Wed, 1 Aug 2018CNBC.com Federal prosecutors in New York are following a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller's office, NBC News reports.The individuals being investigated include former lobbyist Tony Podesta, former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig. |
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Copy of the Cohen plea agreement:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement |
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Michael Cohen
Verified account @MichaelCohen212 @HillaryClinton when you go to prison for defrauding America and perjury, your room and board will be free! Would it be considered bad form to go to the Trump Rally with signs bearing the faces of Cohen or Mani with the caption - Lock him up! Asking for a distant acquaintance. |
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Copy of the Cohen plea agreement: https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement |
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Kafkaesque (käf?k?-esk')
adj. Of or relating to Franz Kafka or his writings. adj. Marked by surreal distortion and often a sense of impending danger: "Kafkaesque fantasies of the impassive interrogation, the false trial, the confiscated passport . . . haunt his innocence” ( New Yorker). Definition of Kafkaesque : of, relating to, or suggestive of Franz Kafka or his writings; especially : having a nightmarishly complex, bizarre, or illogical quality Kafkaesque bureaucratic delays. Websters. Kafkaesque [kahf-kuh-esk] adjective of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or resembling the literary work of Franz Kafka: the Kafkaesque terror of the endless interrogations. marked by a senseless, disorienting, often menacing complexity: Kafkaesque bureaucracies.Thesaurus.com |
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Michael Cohen pleads GUILTY to paying Stormy Daniels for her silence 'at the direction of' Trump in stunning blow to the president. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6083533/Cohen-discussing-possible-GUILTY-plea-following-report-alleged-fraud-probe.html Cohen has no credibility - nothing he says matters. Trump is still president & he will win again in 2020... |
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Minimum 1.5mil payback/fines and 4 years in jail. Quoted:
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Copy of the Cohen plea agreement: https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement |
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Copy of the Cohen plea agreement: https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement Counts 1-5: Tax evasion. Count 6: False statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision. Count 7: Willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution ( 52 USC 30118(a) ) Count 8: Excessive campaign contribution. He agrees to file amended returns, pay what he owes, and in return will got to jail for 3-5 years (depending). Tell me again how Stormy Daniels is connected to any of that (specifically counts 7 and 8)? Unless, of course, you want to suggest paying someone to shut up (i.e. spike a story) is a violation as defined under 52 U.S. Code 30101 (8)(a). 
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Quoted: To be fair, that might be happening. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/tony-podesta-under-investigation-following-special-counsel-referral.html Federal prosecutors said to be investigating lobbyist Tony Podesta after special counsel referral Christine Wang| @christiiineeee Published 7:58 PM ET Tue, 31 July 2018Updated 8:47 AM ET Wed, 1 Aug 2018CNBC.com Federal prosecutors in New York are following a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller's office, NBC News reports.The individuals being investigated include former lobbyist Tony Podesta, former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig. |
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FTL: Counts 1-5: Tax evasion. Count 6: False statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision. Count 7: Willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution ( 52 USC 30118(a) ) Count 8: Excessive campaign contribution. He agrees to file amended returns, pay what he owes, and in return will got to jail for 3-5 years (depending). Tell me again how Stormy Daniels is connected to any of that (specifically counts 7 and 8)? Unless, of course, you want to suggest paying someone to shut up (i.e. spike a story) is a violation as defined under 52 U.S. Code 30101 (8)(a). |
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Top men! If you want to use tax evasion to go after someone, D.C. is a target rich environment. Except democrats generally get to amend returns whereas people connected to Republicans get to do that just before they go to jail. |
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To be fair, even the Clinton Foundation had to amend their tax returns. If you want to use tax evasion to go after someone, D.C. is a target rich environment. Except democrats generally get to amend returns whereas people connected to Republicans get to do that just before they go to jail. |
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They're going to claim spiking the story was a thing of value and therefore an illegal campaign contribution Oh, silly me, that assumes the law is applied equally.
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I meant the last two counts. Meh on the tax fraud Quoted:
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To be fair, even the Clinton Foundation had to amend their tax returns. If you want to use tax evasion to go after someone, D.C. is a target rich environment. Except democrats generally get to amend returns whereas people connected to Republicans get to do that just before they go to jail. I just hate the double standard. |
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They're going to claim spiking the story was a thing of value and therefore an illegal campaign contribution Quoted:
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FTL: Counts 1-5: Tax evasion. Count 6: False statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision. Count 7: Willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution ( 52 USC 30118(a) ) Count 8: Excessive campaign contribution. He agrees to file amended returns, pay what he owes, and in return will got to jail for 3-5 years (depending). Tell me again how Stormy Daniels is connected to any of that (specifically counts 7 and 8)? Unless, of course, you want to suggest paying someone to shut up (i.e. spike a story) is a violation as defined under 52 U.S. Code 30101 (8)(a). Oh and Obama's DOJ fined Obama's campaign $300,000.00 for a $2,000,000.00 discrepancy but Cohen (who appears to be sort of a POS) gets 3-5 years? New SDNY precedent so campaigns and money passing through there should watch out! Cohen gets taken down because A) he was suing Fusion/Buzzfeed over his name appearing in the Steele Dossier regarding his travel to Prague which he didn't do and B) His compilation of dirt on NY politicians and possibly others. Schneiderman's ouster is directly related to Cohen IMO. Forcing Fusion/DNC/Buzzfeed to provide that information would be a disaster since it would rely on leaks from the CIA/FBI and direct access to raw FISA 702 data. Now Cohen is a convicted felon who has to shut up about his case and the dirt he was sitting on (which is now in DOJ's hands...well has been). Political and judicial theater. I already hated the federal court system and this continues to prove my point. |
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It could be Drumpf himself! Hope he has recordings. Quoted:
Quoted: I guess it could have been another "Candidate for Federal Office" that Cohen was working for... Hope he has recordings. |
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Quoted: Who cares if they have a recording, there's no violation of CF laws by this payment; the violation occurred by Cohen not reporting it properly. |
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Kafkaesque (käf?k?-esk') adj. Of or relating to Franz Kafka or his writings. adj. Marked by surreal distortion and often a sense of impending danger: "Kafkaesque fantasies of the impassive interrogation, the false trial, the confiscated passport . . . haunt his innocence” ( New Yorker). Definition of Kafkaesque : of, relating to, or suggestive of Franz Kafka or his writings; especially : having a nightmarishly complex, bizarre, or illogical quality Kafkaesque bureaucratic delays. Websters. Kafkaesque [kahf-kuh-esk] adjective of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or resembling the literary work of Franz Kafka: the Kafkaesque terror of the endless interrogations. marked by a senseless, disorienting, often menacing complexity: Kafkaesque bureaucracies.Thesaurus.com For all the crying, the cases brought so far are pretty straightforward. Cohen dodged taxes and helped Trump secretly pay hush money to whores so as not to lose the Bible-thumper vote. Can't do that. |
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Even though you won't say it. Trump is still your president. Quoted:
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I bet Mr Trump wishes he wasn't so cheap over the hush money paid to the whores, pennies in his piggybank in the scheme of things. Of course the only thing Mr Trump loves better than paying off whores is paying off whores from somebody else's piggybanks. Trump is still your president. After decades of backroom payoffs to corrupt NYC and NYS Democrat Politicians pay to play for projects, I'm disappointed at amateur hour. Maybe that's his defense "I was never a politician, this was just how I dealt with the democrats in office having influence over my real estate projects, just pay 'em off. Matter of fact, I gave ol' Cryin' Chuck $5million for...." |
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Quoted: Lol. For all the crying, the cases brought so far are pretty straightforward. Cohen dodged taxes and helped Trump secretly pay hush money to whores so as not to lose the Bible-thumper vote. Can't do that. |
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Wait, you're implying this is orchestrated for political purposes. Quoted:
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Flynn sentencing delayed. Manafort guilty verdict. Cohen plea agreement. All happened to occur on the same day, hours apart. The rally should be fun tonight |
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Wait, you're implying this is orchestrated for political purposes. Quoted:
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Flynn sentencing delayed. Manafort guilty verdict. Cohen plea agreement. All happened to occur on the same day, hours apart. |
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Listen to the plea allocution, he said something like he was working at the request of a presidential candidate (something like that) The connection to Trump: "Corporation 1" (not "campaign 1" but "corporation 1") was trying to shut women up who could release negative stories about Trump and started negotiating with "woman-1" to buy her silence. When that deal fell through, Cohen got involved and created a LLC and used that LLC to wire six figures to spike a story that would impact a federal election. Cohen then asked "corporation 1" to reimburse his "election expenses" "from the trust" while listing the remittances as "legal expenses" and was paid over a 12 month period (at or around $420,000). So, for starters, they are saying that pay off was a campaign contribution and secondly the amount (~$130,000) was in excess of the $25,000 annual limits. So I would assume when they are done with Cohen, they are going to move on to the executive(s) at the company in question, the members of Trump's campaign who had the idea or pushed the idea, and then use that to claw their way up to Trump. This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
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Quoted: I'm here asking what does any of this have to do with Russia meddling in the 2016 election? Isn't that the scope of the whole Mueller investigation? |
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Quoted: Daily Mail is a tabloid. Cohen has no credibility - nothing he says matters. Trump is still president & he will win again in 2020... His former campaign manager found guilty on eight counts. His former lawyer found guilty on eight counts. That same lawyer today implicated Trump as a co-conspirator in a federal crime. In other words, I don't believe all of this is going to end the way you think it will. |
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I had read the plea now I just read the charges. The connection to Trump: "Corporation 1" (not "campaign 1" but "corporation 1") was trying to shut women up who could release negative stories about Trump and started negotiating with "woman-1" to buy her silence. When that deal fell through, Cohen got involved and created a LLC and used that LLC to wire six figures to spike a story that would impact a federal election. Cohen then asked "corporation 1" to reimburse his "election expenses" "from the trust" while listing the remittances as "legal expenses" and was paid over a 12 month period (at or around $420,000). So, for starters, they are saying that pay off was a campaign contribution and secondly the amount (~$130,000) was in excess of the $25,000 annual limits. So I would assume when they are done with Cohen, they are going to move on to the executive(s) at the company in question, the members of Trump's campaign who had the idea or pushed the idea, and then use that to claw their way up to Trump. This would be funny if it wasn't so serious. |