[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Dutch Government Begins Euthanizing Citizens with Autism, Including Children (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 7/24/2023 10:07:14 AM EDT
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The World Economic Forum-controlled Dutch government is now euthanizing citizens, including children, who suffer from autism or other intellectual disabilities. SOURCE |
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Quoted: Seems it would be less evil to require tests on fetus and require abortion if high probability of birth defects…..than rounding up children / adults and killing them. Less evil, but still evil. Bull fucking shit. We were told my son would be autistic, have diabetes, have major heart problems and that we should abort. The fucking doctors were eager to do it. Guess who was born an absolute healthy boy? |
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Quoted: Seems it would be less evil to require tests on fetus and require abortion if high probability of birth defects…..than rounding up children / adults and killing them. Less evil, but still evil. Autism isn't genetic. Probably epigenetic as near as I can tell, and probably related to some chemical / hormonal exposure. |
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Quoted: lol Doctor assisted suicide should be legal everywhere anyway. If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. |
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Quoted: For children? That's definitely taking the pro-choice argument to a whole new level. Predictable, but child murderers love murdering children. India and China still kill female children pretty frequently. China may be advanced enough to do this via abortion, whereas poor Indians will either step on the baby's neck or let it die via exposure if they can't sell the baby. |
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Quoted: Bull fucking shit. We were told my son would be autistic, have diabetes, have major heart problems and that we should abort. The fucking doctors were eager to do it. Guess who was born an absolute healthy boy? Quoted: Quoted: Seems it would be less evil to require tests on fetus and require abortion if high probability of birth defects…..than rounding up children / adults and killing them. Less evil, but still evil. Bull fucking shit. We were told my son would be autistic, have diabetes, have major heart problems and that we should abort. The fucking doctors were eager to do it. Guess who was born an absolute healthy boy? I never said I supported it. But, If forced… would you rather lose a 90% chance autistic unborn fetus, or autistic 10 year old via forced government euthanasia? I said it was still evil, but anytime governments run healthcare, they will do this shit to save resources. Starts with mental illness, mental disorders, then physical disabilities, various serious chronic illnesses, then go after the “ elderly “ / anyone who’s not productive. That’s where government run socialist FREE healthcare ALWAYS goes. Same for limiting coverage, number of ids you can have how high/low your thermostat can go, how much food you get, and anything else government controls. It ALWAYS leads to saving resources by cutting supply and removing high usage individuals. Never EXPANDING capacity. |
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This is the slippery slope of Socialized Medicine that Liberals deny. Once you "allow" Dr-assisted killing, it is just a tiny step further to allow the "doctor" (or the healthcare ministry) to determine whether you should be killed, for the common good. The 3 steps of Govt Healthcare: 1st step - rationing. There simply just isn't enough healthcare resources to give it away to EVERYONE. 2nd step - allowing you to choose to kill yourself with Dr's help - for the greater good. 3rd step - allowing a Dr to choose to kill you - for the greater good. Once you make "killing people" part of the job of Healthcare facilities, it should surprise no one that "killing the patient" is elevated as a "course of treatment" regardless of who orders it. |
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Quoted: For children? That's definitely taking the pro-choice argument to a whole new level. Predictable, but child murderers love murdering children. Kingston University researchers looked at those 900 cases and found 39 of them had autism or an intellectual disability. Of the 39, 18 were younger than 50 years old. …over a ten year period. |
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Quoted: If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. Quoted: Quoted: lol Doctor assisted suicide should be legal everywhere anyway. If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. I see what you're saying Buck and definitely value your opinion. But state sanctioned---meaning community sanctioned suicide should be abhorred at every level. There is already a lack of appreciation for the value of life. This is one more step towards justifying killing not just who wants to die but also who isn't good or aligned to the goals of the community. You think the Gay slippery slope was bad? This one is just as evil. |
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Quoted: Buying a team membership just to ignore your posts almost pencils out. Lately you've jumped the shark so much though that you're doing more harm than good to your leftist commie cause. You should read the article, instead of just a clickbait thread title. |
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Quoted: Sure I get all my reliable 'rage' news from Newsaddicts.com  Site's top stories are all about WEF nonsense and 'The Jab' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211087/Webopname_24-7-2023_162255_newsaddicts_c-2896391.jpg The site basically parroted the AP news article published a few days prior. https://apnews.com/article/euthanasia-autism-intellectual-disabilities-netherlands-b5c4906d0305dd97e16da363575c03ae |
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Quoted: I see what you're saying Buck and definitely value your opinion. But state sanctioned---meaning community sanctioned suicide should be abhorred at every level. There is already a lack of appreciation for the value of life. This is one more step towards justifying killing not just who wants to die but also who isn't good or aligned to the goals of the community. You think the Gay slippery slope was bad? This one is just as evil. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol Doctor assisted suicide should be legal everywhere anyway. If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. I see what you're saying Buck and definitely value your opinion. But state sanctioned---meaning community sanctioned suicide should be abhorred at every level. There is already a lack of appreciation for the value of life. This is one more step towards justifying killing not just who wants to die but also who isn't good or aligned to the goals of the community. You think the Gay slippery slope was bad? This one is just as evil. I agree, I meant if someone seriously wanted it on their own…. No one should ever be encouraged, pushed , reasoned into, or guilted to pick suicide. Government should never make those decisions, encourage it, encourage others to do it, finance it, or influence it in any way shape or form. I meant as a last resort for desperate people who can find no relief from serious issues, physical / mental illness, etc. For example, someone in extreme pain with terminal cancer, someone suffering a terrible incurable disease with severe symptoms. why force them to stick around and suffer a few extra pain filled weeks, months, or years of misery ? |
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Quoted: The site basically parroted the AP news article published a few days prior. https://apnews.com/article/euthanasia-autism-intellectual-disabilities-netherlands-b5c4906d0305dd97e16da363575c03ae The problem is edits like this: “Doctors in the Netherlands have been ordered to begin euthanizing citizens with autism and other minor disabilities, without fear of prosecution – even if the patient does not currently express any desire to die.” |
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Quoted: My thought as well. I am skeptical. Quoted: Quoted: It sure seems like we would hear a lot more about this if there were death squads hunting retarded people in the Netherlands. My thought as well. I am skeptical. Dunno exactly what they are going on about but legally as far as I know it would be impossible to legally get assisted suicide if the patient is not mentally competent. You can set the wheels in motion if you say have say brain cancer and you know that you wont be able to make that choice in the future due to progression of the disease and loss of brain function. |
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Quoted: My thought as well. I am skeptical. Quoted: Quoted: It sure seems like we would hear a lot more about this if there were death squads hunting retarded people in the Netherlands. My thought as well. I am skeptical. I understand your skepticism, but where would we hear about it from? The mainstream media? |
| If the USA ever gets its “ FREE HEALTHCARE “ it won’t take long before democrats start trying to do the same shit here. Autism, crippled people, drug addicts, homeless, crazes, criminals and anyone else who uses more resources than your average healthy person, anyone getting benefits, not working had best keep their head on a swivel or they too might well end up on the chopping block, and their organs harvested for that same healthcare system, mostly for elites. |
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Quoted: I agree, I meant if someone seriously wanted it on their own…. No one should ever be encouraged, pushed , reasoned into, or guilted to pick suicide. For example, someone in extreme pain with terminal cancer, why force them to stick around ? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol Doctor assisted suicide should be legal everywhere anyway. If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. I see what you're saying Buck and definitely value your opinion. But state sanctioned---meaning community sanctioned suicide should be abhorred at every level. There is already a lack of appreciation for the value of life. This is one more step towards justifying killing not just who wants to die but also who isn't good or aligned to the goals of the community. You think the Gay slippery slope was bad? This one is just as evil. I agree, I meant if someone seriously wanted it on their own…. No one should ever be encouraged, pushed , reasoned into, or guilted to pick suicide. For example, someone in extreme pain with terminal cancer, why force them to stick around ? This is slightly different You're talking about a situation where there is imminent death and zero quality of life only pain and misery. Yes I support enabling a merciful transition. Example: I'm on planet Klenadthu and a bug is pulling me into the sand, I would expect one of my Joe's to put a mercy bullet in me. Different anecdote My Grandfather is 93, stage 4 heart failure and he can't walk. The only thing he can do right now is tell us the same war stories from Korea (2 silver stars with V)and how much he misses his wife. It is both sad and beautiful because he is offering all he can to his family. Even now he provides an example of grit and fighting to the end. The netherlands would be quick to slip him a pill that would slow that heart rate down and end it. But he wants to go in God's time. Another man mane decide to take that pill. If he does I won't stop him. But I won't enable the poorly taught mindless youth of today with one more idea on how to make the world a "better" place by getting rid of the unwanted. |
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Quoted: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dutch-people-seeking-euthanasia-cite-autism-intellectual-disabilities-100434103 Edit: beat like a rented mule Here are the criteria I ran though Google translate. Dunno if the link wil work. Shitty thing they cant buy a gun and do it, and a lot decide to jump under a train or drive the wrong direction on the freeway to off themselves (yes it happens and they have killed innocents) https://richtlijnendatabase-nl.translate.goog/richtlijn/levensbeeindiging_op_verzoek_psychiatrie/startpagina_-_levensbe_indiging_op_verzoek.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp |
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Quoted: Sure I get all my reliable 'rage' news from Newsaddicts.com Site's top stories are all about WEF nonsense and 'The Jab' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211087/Webopname_24-7-2023_162255_newsaddicts_c-2896391.jpg Hmmm, I noticed you only attack the source of the news. Not that is was wrong or a lie. |
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Quoted: Bull fucking shit. We were told my son would be autistic, have diabetes, have major heart problems and that we should abort. The fucking doctors were eager to do it. Guess who was born an absolute healthy boy? Quoted: Quoted: Seems it would be less evil to require tests on fetus and require abortion if high probability of birth defects…..than rounding up children / adults and killing them. Less evil, but still evil. Bull fucking shit. We were told my son would be autistic, have diabetes, have major heart problems and that we should abort. The fucking doctors were eager to do it. Guess who was born an absolute healthy boy? Fucking ghouls. I wonder if their pagan deity was demanding a quota. 
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Quoted: This is slightly different You're talking about a situation where there us imminent death and zero quality of life only lain and misery. Yes I support enabling a merciful transition. Example: I'm on planet Klenadthu and a bug is pulling me into the sand, I would expect one of my Joe's to put a mercy bullet in me. Different anecdote My Grandfather is 93, stage 4 heart failure and he can't walk. The only thing he can do right now is tell us the same war stories from Korea (2 silver stars with V)and how much he misses his wife. It is both sad and beautiful because he is offering all he can to his family. Even now he provides an example of grit and fighting to the end. The netherlands would be quick to slip him a pill that would slow that heart rate down and end it. But he wants to go in God's time. Another man mane decide to take that pill. If he does I won't stop him. But I won't enable the poorly taught mindless youth of today with one more idea on how to make the world a "better" place by getting rid of the unwanted. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol Doctor assisted suicide should be legal everywhere anyway. If someone doesn’t want to live, it’s as much their right to die as it is to live. ( barring temporary issues from tragedy, deaths, trauma etc, and they are of legal age, etc, and life insurance is voided as a result ) but if someone wants to die , it should be allowed imho. I see what you're saying Buck and definitely value your opinion. But state sanctioned---meaning community sanctioned suicide should be abhorred at every level. There is already a lack of appreciation for the value of life. This is one more step towards justifying killing not just who wants to die but also who isn't good or aligned to the goals of the community. You think the Gay slippery slope was bad? This one is just as evil. I agree, I meant if someone seriously wanted it on their own…. No one should ever be encouraged, pushed , reasoned into, or guilted to pick suicide. For example, someone in extreme pain with terminal cancer, why force them to stick around ? This is slightly different You're talking about a situation where there us imminent death and zero quality of life only lain and misery. Yes I support enabling a merciful transition. Example: I'm on planet Klenadthu and a bug is pulling me into the sand, I would expect one of my Joe's to put a mercy bullet in me. Different anecdote My Grandfather is 93, stage 4 heart failure and he can't walk. The only thing he can do right now is tell us the same war stories from Korea (2 silver stars with V)and how much he misses his wife. It is both sad and beautiful because he is offering all he can to his family. Even now he provides an example of grit and fighting to the end. The netherlands would be quick to slip him a pill that would slow that heart rate down and end it. But he wants to go in God's time. Another man mane decide to take that pill. If he does I won't stop him. But I won't enable the poorly taught mindless youth of today with one more idea on how to make the world a "better" place by getting rid of the unwanted. Social media influencers start crowing about the benefits of saving Mother Earth and stopping climate change via euthanasia, and suddenly it’s got a massive following by the same cult that supports anything else social media tells them to like / hate. I can see the headlines now. The nazis were obviously racist, but that didn’t mean they were not smart, great scientists, and have many good ways to help society thrive ! Read this article by the New York Times, about the Top 10 ideas nazis had that were well ahead of their time and still effective today ! |
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Quoted: This is slightly different You're talking about a situation where there is imminent death and zero quality of life only pain and misery. Yes I support enabling a merciful transition. Example: I'm on planet Klenadthu and a bug is pulling me into the sand, I would expect one of my Joe's to put a mercy bullet in me. Different anecdote My Grandfather is 93, stage 4 heart failure and he can't walk. The only thing he can do right now is tell us the same war stories from Korea (2 silver stars with V)and how much he misses his wife. It is both sad and beautiful because he is offering all he can to his family. Even now he provides an example of grit and fighting to the end. The netherlands would be quick to slip him a pill that would slow that heart rate down and end it. But he wants to go in God's time. Another man mane decide to take that pill. If he does I won't stop him. But I won't enable the poorly taught mindless youth of today with one more idea on how to make the world a "better" place by getting rid of the unwanted. In 2002, the Netherlands became the first country to allow doctors to kill patients at their request if they met strict requirements, including having an incurable illness causing “unbearable” physical or mental suffering. So are you against this, or not? |