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Posted: 9/11/2007 5:07:54 PM EDT
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First off - I DO NOT want to start a huge cluster of bashing. I would like some intelligent help on this purchase. I want a 308 semi-auto. Was leaning toward a M1A/SOCOM II but have had some thoughts of an AR10. I have a nostalgic lean toward the M1A and already have a black rifle. I would go with a Springfield on the M1A side but have no clue on the AR platform. What can I expect from each from reliability and accuracy? Looking for a shooter that is accurate but fun, and no I can't afford both unless we take up a collection fund with wife approval. hanks Charlie |
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If you going to scope it, then the DPMS 308's in a flat top are going for around $1000. Add in a mount and SS 10X, and you done at around $1400. The AR-10's in a flat top target type configuration are around $1600 for the base rifle, then you still have mounts and the scope. As for the M1a being scoped, then you have to buy a mount which will run you in the $200's for a good steel one, and a new type of stock that will have a check rest high enough to get a good weld (could add a cheek pad, but it does get funky after a while, and you never get the solid feeling with them anyway) |
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If you can spend a bit more, the Fulton Armory Titan is getting nice reviews, check out the latest issue of Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement magazine. I ordered one in the rifle (22'' barell) configuration, still waiting... Guy I know is getting .5 moa out to 600yds with this setup. |
$1600 might be suggested retail but that is nowhere near actual market value. With a little effort an AR10A4 can be found between $1000 and $1200. This would be chrome-lined and lifetime warranty. Like I said in the other thread, the M1A is great if you plan to stick with iron sights. But if you have any notion at all of putting an optic on it, the AR10 wins hand down. Here is a similar thread you might find interesting... ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=62&t=342097 |
 thats my M1A standard. for $500 i put a smith enterprises scope mount, some el cheapo rings, and a luepold VarXII 3-9X40 scope on it, all new stuff. i took the cheek rest off. the mount was ~110 + shipping. it is possible to have good optics on a M1A on a budget. |
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I handled the SOCOM M14 at the dealers the other day , shorter and lighter than i thought it would be , with a rail mounted and composite stock... Too bad its $1800. But its a Springfield so its gonna cost .. DPMS makes a great AR-10 type in 24in SS bull barrel(very accurate) and 18in and 16in chrome moly cost about $1200. I have one ... to be honest ide get the SOCOM , it will always be worth a lot .. |
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Or for irons only, get a Garand, a basic Wilson .308 bbl, and new stock for tight fit. Have a smith headspace/finish ream it, and you're good to go (but I also had small blocks put on the bullet guides to keep .06 from being accidentally stuck in there. 1.5" on Aussie surp, 47 3x sighting 5 last weekend at the std 200yd nra target |
Charlie, I have both the M14 and the AR-10. Either will serve you well and shoot accurately. I prefer the M14 platform with an 18.0" barrel. HTH ~ |
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Thanks everyone for your 2 cents. I ended up buying a 16" AR10 carbine. Enough gun to drop anything in the US @ 500 yrds with out the $2k bill of a Match Springfield. If any generous soul is willing to correct my error with a donation of said Match Springfield I will humbly mend my error. But I have a new wife and must be content to drool at the website. Now on the the ammo bill.....................  Thanks again, Charlie |
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