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Posted: Yesterday 7:13:39 PM EDT
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Just received my Wraith suppressor . It’s a fully serviceable, adjustable, and true multi caliber capable unit. I took some pictures on my potato phone so excuse them. I purchased the baffle sets in .308 and .223. The pics show the baffle stacks along with different styles of baffles. The baffle styles allow variations in sound and pulse for tuning in both bolt and gas operated actions. I got to try these out at CanCon in SC in May. I purchased this so I could use one suppressor on multiple platforms. Very excited about my purchase and hope to use it this weekend.Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Different baffle styles in .308 and .223 |
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Attached File Attached File Attached File These are the end caps in both calibers |
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Here it is assembled. It’s shiny at the moment as I just applied the provided suppressor syrup by True Blue. This particular model is the Socom. It’s listed at 7.7” Attached File Attached File Attached File I shot this unit at Can Con using an M4 type platform. The ammo was not subsonic. The report was very comfortable. They allowed participants to assemble a suppressor utilizing baffles of your choice from a pile of the various options. They let you shoot a couple of rounds with a meter near the muzzle and record the decibels. They give the average to see how you compare with other participants. I forgot to write the numbers down. Looking forward to trying subsonic ammo. On another note, the form 4 approval time was about 2 days. |
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I think that’s the purpose of the suppressor lube. The company principals told me to lube it up and shoot it. After a few outings, the finish should smooth out a little. I was fortunate enough to have gotten in on the ultrasonic cleaner deal posted in GD. That should hopefully help keeping it clean and loose. Will update after some range time. @1911user - it’s one suppressor with multiple caliber baffle options. Additional baffles are available for purchase if desired. |
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My understanding from the company was that ATF was allowing serviceable components and treating the serialized tube as the suppressor Not sure if you can make this out but this is a page from ATF clarifying the issue. See the second paragraph As well as third. Attached File There was a thread previously that had more discussion about this. Additional thread. |
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Originally Posted By tacklenut: My understanding from the company was that ATF was allowing serviceable components and treating the serialized tube as the suppressor Not sure if you can make this out but this is a page from ATF clarifying the issue. See the second paragraph As well as third. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230503/IMG_3834_png-3832034.JPG There was a thread previously that had more discussion about this. Additional thread. From the article "Loose or spare suppressor parts possessed outside that manufacturer exception remain subject to the NFA’s marking and registration requirements. Transferring such parts to an unlicensed person can also trigger the NFA’s transfer rules." I dont think that rule has anything to do with having extra baffles outside of the tube or being able to buy more. I find it hard to believe that the mfgr went ahead and did this without understanding the law, but ive seen people make a lot dumber errors |
| So what happens if you get a bunch of bad parts, a round bounces around inside of there, and the outer tube is impacted? Are they going to put that on the consumer who may have misaligned things during assembly or are they going to take responsibility for selling a user-assembled kit? Genuine question since they don't really have an established track record AFAIK. |
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Originally Posted By PacificNic: So what happens if you get a bunch of bad parts, a round bounces around inside of there, and the outer tube is impacted? Are they going to put that on the consumer who may have misaligned things during assembly or are they going to take responsibility for selling a user-assembled kit? Genuine question since they don't really have an established track record AFAIK. Good question. I spoke with the President of the company in person and by email. If I were to have a baffle strike or two because of something that I did, they are going to take care of it. If I have a bunch over a period of time it’s going to be on me because I’m clearly not following the instructions. According to the president of the company, Jessie Hanger, the replacement parts can be mailed with no problem. If it involves the serialized part, that might require a different process. The kit comes with a rod to stack the baffles on allowing you to slide the tube down over them. It shown in the picture with the baffles stacked. The baffles have notches and tabs to make a secure mating surface for alignment. I also ordered a rod to double check because I like redundancy. If one had a baffle strike with any other brand, you have send the complete suppressor back to the manufacturer. I am one of the first to purchase so I am going to find out. I can tell you this, lots of shooters were trying this over a three day period at the CanCon event. I wasn’t present the whole time but it performed well for me and others that got to play with them. The company is very responsive to questions. I got responses with in a day. I am certain they will answer any questions regarding the product or legality of the multi caliber parts if you wish to contact them. The link on my post above had information from ATF about clarification on multi caliber parts. |
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc: What's the cost on a setup like that? I looked at the website. The model I purchased is the Socom. It’s around $1400 plus additional cost for other caliber baffles. They have a package for multi caliber set ups. I purchased at the CanCon event and received a discount. |
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