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Posted: 6/21/2010 10:52:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/28/2010 10:48:49 AM EST by TNVC]
Link Posted: 6/23/2010 8:24:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/6/2014 8:00:23 PM EST by cj7hawk]













Omni I to Omni VIII - Comparison of approximate specification.





Please note: Individual orders and tube requirements will vary. This table is purely a reflection of the state of the technology.


































































































































































































































ContractOmni IOmni IIOmni IIIOmni IVOmni VOmni VIOmni VIIOmni VIII
CommentsEarly Gen3 - Not all that far above Gen2 of era.Another early Gen3, again not that advanced.The first advanced Gen3 with significant improvement is S/NSignificant increase in photocathode performance levels. Very advanced. See's introduction of Gen4.Continual improvement of the technology.Autogated Thin-Film Replaces US specs for Gen4. Metrics not yet published – Aug 2010
Resolution lp/mm3645516464646464
S/N16.216.2192121252825
Photocathode sensitivity uA/lm@2856K10001000135018001800200022002000
Sensitivity at uA/lm@830nm100
60@880
100135190190230@830
100@880
120@880190@830

80@880
Gain fL/fc20,000-35,00040,000-70,00040,000-70,00040,000-70,00040,000-70,00050,000-80,00050,000-80,00025,000-110,000
MTF@2.5lp/mm0.830.830.90.920.920.920.92Nominal
MTF@7.5lp/mm0.580.60.70.80.80.80.8Nominal
MTF@15lp/mm0.280.380.450.610.610.610.610.61
MTF@25lp/mm0.080.180.20.380.380.380.380.38
Halo (mm)1.47

1.251.250.900.701
PhosphorP-20P-20P-20/P-43P-43P-43P-43P-43P-43
Year19821985199019961999200220062010




































Tubes suppliedMX-9916/UV
MX-9644/UV
MX-10130A/UV
MX-10130B/UV
MX-18281/PVS-7A
MX-18282/PVS-7B
MX-9916/UV
MX-10160/AVS-6
ID 54490-5002760
MX-10160
MX-10130B/UV
MX-10130C/UV
MX-10160/AVS-6
ID 54490-5009100
MX-10160A/AVS6
MX-10160
MX-10160C/UV
MX-10160A/AVS-6
ID 80063-A3256389
MX-10130D/UV
MX-11769/UV
MX-10160A
MX-11620/UV
MX-10160A/AVS-6
ID 80063-A3256389
MX-10160B/AVS-6 filmless and thinfilm
MX-10130D/UV
MX-11769/UV
MX-11620/UV
MX-10160C
/AVS-6
MX-11769/UV
MX-10130D/UV
MX-10160B/AVS-6
ID 80063-A3279453 (Litton Filmless)
ID 80063-A3279593 (ITT Thin Film)
MX-10160C
/AVS-6
ID 80063-A3279602
MX-11769/UV
MX-10130D/UV
ENVG (Enhanced NVG )
FGS (Fusion Goggle System )
MX-10130D/UV  MX-11769/UV
Contracts:DAAB07-85-C-E032
DAAB07-85-C-E033
mx9916
DAAB07-81-C-1065
DAAB07-90-C-F102
DAAB07-90-C-F103
DAAB07-90-C-F101
DAAB07-93-C-K006
DAAB07-93-C-K005
DAAB07-96-C-J209
DAAB07-02-C-J008
N00019-98-C-0047
DAAB07-01-D-N413
DAAB07-01-D-N411
DAAB07-98-C-J419
DAAB07-98-C-J418
DAAB07-02-C-J010
DAAB07-02-C-J009
W9124Q-05-D-0821
W9124Q-05-D-0823
N00164-07-R-85240 - mx10160
N00164-09-R-JQ02 - FGS
mx10160
H92222-08-R-0040
mx10160
H9222-10-R-0003
W91CRB-10-R-0051

































































TUBE DATA - Details of tubes and typical platform
Standard US Tubes.












































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































US Tubes.4-Sept-2010



















































































ComponentTubeDetailsNSNPart NumberMilspecComments
Date: 04/09/10 10:03


































18mm Inv









































AN/AVS-6MX10160MX-10160 Image Intensifier5855011514191






MIL-I-49428(CR)






AN/AVS-6MX10160MX-10160 Image Intensifier5855013805096




















AN/AVS-6MX10160-HRMX-10160 Image Intensifier5855013867323




















AN/AVS-6MX10160A/AVS-6MX-10160A Image Intensifier5855014231497, 5855014577710A3256389 MIL-PRF-49428(CR)Approx Omni IV/V







MX10160A/UV






5855014712149




















AN/AVS-6MX10160B/AVS-6Image Intensifier, 18mm, Gen IV5855014736076A3279453, A3279593 MIL-PRF-A3279593 Confirmed NGEOS Gen IV.
AN/AVS-6MX10160B/AVS-6Image Intensifier, 18mm, Gen IV5855013917077













Confirmed NGEOS Gen IV.
AN/AVS-6MX10160C/AVS-6MX-10160C High Perf Image Intensifier5855015034799A3279602 MIL-PRF-A3279602BCurrent Revision 17 Oct 2003
AN/PVS-15M851-1061M851-1061 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenIII




















L3/NGEOS approx OmniIV/V
AN/PVS-15M883M883 Image Intensifier, Gen III, 18mm




















L3/NGEOS Pre-Omni I
AN/AVS-6M890M890 Image Intensifier, Gen III, 18mm




















L3/NGEOS approx OmniIV/V
AN/AVS-6F9800ITT Series – 18mm Inverting













As per contractGeneric ITT Series

















































18mm Inv/Gain









































AN/PVS-14MX11769MX-11769 High Perf Image Intensifier5855015044590A3297320MIL-PRF-A3297320(CR)






AN/PVS-14MX11769/UVMX-11769/UV High Perf Image Intensifier5855014810819A3264363






/UV







MX11769/UVMX-11769/UV High Perf Image Intensifier5855015044590A3297310






DAAB07-02-C-J010
AN/PVS-14MX11769/UVMX-11769 High Perf Image Intensifier5855014443916A3256350MIL-PRF-A3256363Autogated
AN/PVS-14MX11769A/UVMX-11769A/UV High Perf Image Intensifier5855014711509A3279450






/UV Autogated
AN/PVS-14M814-1201M814-1201 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenIII




















L3/NGEOS approx OmniII/III
AN/PVS-18M898-1601M898-1601 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenIII




















L3/NGEOS Approx Omni III+
AN/PVS-14F9815ITT Series – 18mm Inverting w/gain













As per contractGeneric ITT Series

















































18mm  non-inv









































AN/PVS-7  MX10130IIT Assy, 18mm MCP WAFER MX10130()/UV













MIL-I-49453(CR)6th November 1989
AN/PVS-7  MX10130a






5855012280941A3140861













AN/PVS-7  MX10130b






5855012280942A3144308













AN/PVS-7  MX10130c






5855013283540A3144500













AN/PVS-7  MX10130dMX 10130 D High Perf Image Intensifier5855014224720A3256388MIL-PRF-49453Approx Omni IV/V
AN/PVS-7  MX10130dMX 10130 D High Perf Image Intensifier5855015044589A3297300, A3297290MIL-PRF-49453(NVI)Approx Omni IV/V
AN/PVS-7  MX10130D/UV






5855014810818  A3264362






/UV
AN/PVS-7MX10130E/UVMX 10130 E High Perf Image Intensifier5855014754454A3279400






Filmless, Autogated
AN/PVS-7M891Image Intensifier, Night Vision M891-0015855014818281













242241-002 - Roughly equiv 10130D
PVS-7/ExportXX1450Image Intensifier GEN2 18mm Non Inverted5855219035081AED63901Phototonis xx1450






AN/PVS-7AM873AM873A, Image Intensifier,18mm, Gen III




















NGEOS Approx Omni II/III
AN/PVS7ABCDEM891-1201M891-1201 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenIII




















NGEOS Approx Omni III
AN/PVS7ABCDEF9810ITT Series – 18mm Non Inverting.













As per contractGeneric ITT Series

















































25mm and Inv.









































AN/VVS-2MX11619MX-11619 Gen III 25mm Tube & Mag5855013986170A3245422













AN/VVS-2






Gen II 25mm Tube & Mag5855010271554




















AN/VVS-2MX-9610Tube & Magnifier, 25mm, Gen II




















L3/NGEOS Gen II
PVS-4&TVS-5MX964425 MM GEN II MX-9644/UV 5855001382386SM-D-850310 MIL-I-49040DAAB07-98-R-J490
PVS-4&TVS-5MX9644/UVIMAGE INTENSIFIER ASSEMBLY






25 MILLIMETER, MICROCHANNEL INVERTER






MX-9644/UV














MIL-PRF-49040F4 March 1999 Gen2 specification
PVS-4&TVS-5MX11620MX-11620 Gen III 25 mm5855013986167A3245418 MIL-PRF-49254 DAAB07-98-C-J418
PVS-4&TVS-5MX11620MX-11620 Gen III 25 mm5960014495726













Litton model 510-7330-306

















































18mm G2 INV









































AN/PVS-5MX9916NIGHT VISION GOGGLES AN/PVS-5A 5855010343845  SM-D-657310-2 MIL-I-49052GFrom 1992
AN/PVS-5M801-001Image Intensifier , 18mm Gen II













NGEOS PVS-5 tube.






AN/PVS-15M865-001M864-001 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenII




















L3/NGEOS approx OmniII/III

















































18mm G2 non-inv


























































































AN/PVS-7M872-002M872-002 Image Intensifier, 18mm GenII




















L3/NGEOS approx OmniII/III
AN/PVS-7(A/B/C)M884M884 Image Intensifier, 18mm, Gen II




















Early L3/NGEOS Gen2

















































OtherGROUP1.


































KITE WSMX9855AEEV style ITT tubes... Inverting 44mm5960990878717













ITT series for KITE
KITE WSMX9855DEEV style ITT tubes... Inverting 44mm5960990878717













ITT series for KITE
KITE WSM869Image Intensifier, G3 M869 so suffix G35960990878717













KITE/MAXI-KITE
KITE WSM869Image Intensifier,G2 M868-0015855014468197













KITE/MAXI-KITE
KITE WSM869Image Intensifier, G3 M869-9015855014831350 208342-9601






KITE/MAXI-KITE
KITE WS / M937M869Image Intensifier, G3 M869-16015855014468197













G3
KITE WS / M937M869Image Intensifier, G3 M869-16025855014468197













G3







IIT Data - ITT

This relates to ITT Image Intensifiers and known specifications for different models.

















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































TubeContractlp/mmuA/lm@830@880SNRGain>Gain<FOMEBIMTF25BLRHaloComments
ITT mx10160





































































Omni Tubes





































































F9800B Omni II451000100––16.240000700007292.518––––Enhanced
F9800C Omni III511350135––1940000700009692.520––––Enhanced
F9800J Omni III Plus 6413501356518400007000011522.53812––FOM 1250 Max
F9800 Omni III PlusOmni III Plus 641350––––












































F9800K Omni IV Full Milspec641800––8021400007000013442.538121.25Thick Film
F9800L Omni V Full Milspec641800––––21400007000013442.538121.25Thick Film
F9800N Omni V641800190––21400007000013442.538––––––
F9800P Omni IV6418001908021400007000013442.53812––FOM 1600 Max
F9800RG Omni VI642000––––26400007000016642.538360.9Pinnacle
F9800VG Omni VII642200––12028500008000017922.538450.7Pinnacle











































































Non-OmniComments
































































F9800ADefacto Omni I––––––––––––––––––––––––Refernce only
F9800AG Autogated641800––––23400007000014722.538360.9Pinnacle
F9800WG Weapons Grade 641800––8022500008000014082.538361.1~1.25Pinnacle
F9800DTG2




641500––8021400007000013442.538361.25Pinnacle
F9800TG




642000––10026400007000016642.538360.7Pinnacle
F9800YG




641800––8025400007000016002.538361Pinnacle











































































ITT mx10130 style





































































F9810J Omni III Plus 641350135––18400007000011522.53012––FOM 1250 Max
F9810P Omni IV641500155––19.240000700001228.82.53812––FOM 1600 Max
F9810K




641800––8021400007000013442.538121.25Thick Film
F9810DTG




641500––7719.240000700001228.82.538121.25Pinnacle
F9810WG




641800––8022500008000014082.538361.1-1.25Pinnacle
F9810UG




641800––8025400007000016002.538361.1Pinnacle
F9810VG




642000––10025500008000016002.538361Pinnacle
F9810YG




641800––8025400007000016002.538361Pinnacle






















































































































































mx11769 type.





































































F9815A




––––––––––––––––––––––––Seen in referece
F9815SLN




571350––––16.2––––923.42.5––––––Select
F9815SLG




571350––––16.2––––923.42.5––––––Select Autogated
F9815J




571350––13518400007000010262.52712––FOM 1250 Max
F9815P




641500––15519.240000700001228.82.53812––FOM 1600 Max
F9815L




641500––7719.240000700001228.82.538121.25Thick Film
F9815AG




641800––8022400007000014082.538361.1Pinnacle
F9815WG




642000––10025400007000016002.538361.1-1.25Pinnacle
F9815UG




641800––8025400007000016002.538361.1Pinnacle
F9815VG




642000––10025400007000016002.538360.9Pinnacle
F9815DTG2




641500––7721400007000013442.538361.25Pinnacle
F9815YG




641800––8025400008000016002.538361Pinnacle











































































Other





































































F9801 Omni III plus




511500––––––––––––––––––––To Add To.

ITT Data - L3/LEOS/NGEOS
Next post - ( 2 down ).


























































 
 
 

 


 


 
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 6:00:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/4/2010 6:11:47 AM EST by cj7hawk]



Litton/NGEOS Tube Data.







Not including the latest L3 data.





































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































TubeContractlp/mmuA/lm@830@880SNRGain>Gain<FOMEBIMTF25BLRHaloComments













































M801-001Omni I2824015––4.518000250001262.520 @15––1.37Gen2 mx9916
M814-1201


4512001207217.12000030000769.52.51651.47Gen3 PVS-14
M851-1061


6418001908021400007000013442.538121.25Gen3 T-ANVIS
M864-001


5740032––1220000300006842.535––1.5Gen2 T-ANVIS
M868-001––5740032––1220000300006842.535––1.37Gen2 KITE
M869-901


6418001908021400007000013442.538––1.25Gen3 KITE
M872-002


5740032––1220000300006842.535––1.37Gen2 PVS-7A
M873A


451200––7217.12000035000769.52.51651.47Gen3 PVS-7A
M883


4080060––16.220000350006482.58––1.37Gen3 PVS-12A
M884


3224015––n/a1800025000n/a2.520 @15––1.37Gen2 PVS-7B
M890


641800––8021400007000013442.538121.25Gen3 T-ANVIS
M891-1201


511600––7519.52000035000994.52.51651.47Gen3, PVS-7( )
M898-1601


641500––––19.240000700001228.82.538––1.25Gen3 PVS-18
mx9610


20-40175-8005-9@8502.0-7.0700060000n/a0.1-4.05-20n/a0Gen2 Inverter VVS
mx9964


20-4024010@850––4000070000n/a220 @15n/a0Gen2 PVS-4
mx10130D


6418001908021400007000013442.538121.25Gen3 PVS-7B
mx10160A


6418001908021400007000013442.538121.25Gen3 T-ANVIS
mx10160B


72210020010036300008000025920.538360.4-1.25Gen4 T-ANVIS
mx11619


4512001306517.540000110000787.5213121.3Gen3 VVS
mx11620


451550140702520000900001125120140.7-1.6Gen3 PVS-4
mx11769


64210020010021400007000013440.5-3.538361.0-2.0Gen3 PVS-14










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Link Posted: 2/1/2011 6:29:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2020 7:41:18 AM EST by cj7hawk]
Omni IX stuff and update going to go here, March 2020.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 6:29:36 AM EST
PLaceholder
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 6:29:51 AM EST
Placeholder for Russian and European tubes
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 6:30:12 AM EST
Hopefully four should be enough - Comments welcome under this line :)
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 7:16:31 AM EST
OK, One, two more placeholders. I have a LOT to post.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 7:16:50 AM EST
Should about do it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2011 10:51:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/2/2011 12:39:52 AM EST
How can I tell which one my PVS is?
Link Posted: 4/2/2011 1:41:06 AM EST
You would need to see the actual tube numbers(serial, NSN, ...) and the good folks around here could tell you which one it is.
Link Posted: 4/2/2011 2:34:56 AM EST
I got it from the nice people at TNVC.
Part# Litton MX-11769 Auto Gated
Tube S/N: 12384316
Link Posted: 4/2/2011 7:58:47 PM EST


Easiest way is to just ask them. If it's not Milspec then technically it's not Omni, but they can probably tell you roughly what it's equal to.




David
Link Posted: 4/2/2011 10:35:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By cj7hawk:
Easiest way is to just ask them. If it's not Milspec then technically it's not Omni, but they can probably tell you roughly what it's equal to.

David

I looked at the data sheet and some of the numbers seem to match between VI and VII. I guess it don't matter.

Link Posted: 4/4/2011 2:47:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/4/2011 2:47:51 AM EST by karma]
Link Posted: 4/4/2011 2:00:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By karma:
Originally Posted By fmkenner:
I got it from the nice people at TNVC.
Part# Litton MX-11769 Auto Gated
Tube S/N: 12384316


When did you get it?  What does the spec sheet say?



I got it end of Feb. this year, the spec sheet says 2/9/2011.

Link Posted: 12/18/2013 12:12:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/18/2013 12:23:47 AM EST by redamortis]
I have a question maybe somebody could help me out. I have a varo image intensifier  NSN: 5855-01-083-9051 it was sold to me as a kollsman, but I can't seem to find anything about it. Anybody know anything about those? I want to power it up to check function but I also don't want to fry it with too much power.



Link Posted: 7/13/2014 10:55:00 AM EST
Which classes are auto-gated?
Link Posted: 7/13/2014 11:28:25 AM EST
This is interesting info, thanks for posting.


Since I have only used one PVS14 (Opmod, ITT Pinnacle), how does say Omni V and later compare to one another? Is the difference really noticeable between them?
Link Posted: 7/14/2014 12:29:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/14/2014 12:33:44 AM EST by Dino1130]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By 1ipschoser:
This is interesting info, thanks for posting.


Since I have only used one PVS14 (Opmod, ITT Pinnacle), how does say Omni V and later compare to one another? Is the difference really noticeable between them?
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Omni IV is when tubes really got very good. Advances past that are minor except for autogating.

ETA: I still have and use many Omni IV tubes.. They perform great and I love them !!
Link Posted: 7/14/2014 12:43:14 AM EST
+1  The high spec OMNI IV that I have been beating the crap out of for several years remains my favorite device of the handful I^2 in the stable....a very nice deep green.
Link Posted: 7/14/2014 10:33:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/14/2014 11:16:37 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By TNVC:

+1 for recoil beating as well in rifle scopes.
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It is that 14"D" that I bought from you off the EE before there was an "official" TNVC or a NV forum on arfcom.  It sure seems much better than the 27.4 SNR would indicate, and pretty much everyone who has tried it side-by-side with my "higher" spec OMNI VII prefers it.  Maybe one day it will get a single battery housing.  Just out of curiosity, what riflescope housings will the tube work with?

It was really really really hard to rationalize $3k+ and there was a helluva lot less info available back then, so it was a huge leap of faith; but it has turned out to be one of the best items that I have ever purchased in any realm.  Thank you again.
Link Posted: 8/24/2014 6:04:38 PM EST
Under the omniIII heading on the top chart under tubes produced, it reads:

MX-10160C/UV

Is this a typo, or should it be MX-10130C/UV?

I think there were 10130C's under that contract not 10160C's...
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 5:50:06 AM EST
I was hoping you could help me out with grading what kind of tube I have

It's a mx-10130 c/uv  made in the mid 90s and the c/uv is listed as a omni 2 but that's from the mid 80s and I was thinking that since mine is made in the mid 90s when omni 3 and 4 were out that it could possibly be closer to that category then omni 2. Is that possible? Thank you for your time

Originally Posted By TNVC:
Special thanks to David, (CJ7Hawk) for uploading this PDF to the AR15.com NV Forum.

http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-omnispec.gif

Companion Table

http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-AUNV_Tubelist_28-June-2010.gif
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Link Posted: 8/2/2018 1:59:04 PM EST
This thread is so old, I had to type this reply using a Ouija board.
Link Posted: 8/3/2018 4:35:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By iiiwildfireiii:
This thread is so old, I had to type this reply using a Ouija board.
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Thats Pretty good!

I found it by doing a Google search of the image tube I have and this thread came up so I'd never would have found it if I was just looking on this website since it is so old
Link Posted: 8/4/2018 3:44:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WillCorps:

Thats Pretty good!

I found it by doing a Google search of the image tube I have and this thread came up so I'd never would have found it if I was just looking on this website since it is so old
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I have it saved under my subscribed threads. This is the first time I have not seen it at the very bottom of all of the posts I have subscribed to.
Link Posted: 8/9/2018 8:27:14 PM EST
I just found a website that says the mx-10130c/uv  tubes made in the 1990s are Omni 3 and the ones made in 1985 are under omni 2. I'll look for the link and post it

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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Under the omniIII heading on the top chart under tubes produced, it reads:

MX-10160C/UV

Is this a typo, or should it be MX-10130C/UV?

I think there were 10130C's under that contract not 10160C's...
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Link Posted: 1/21/2019 7:54:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WillCorps:
I just found a website that says the mx-10130c/uv  tubes made in the 1990s are Omni 3 and the ones made in 1985 are under omni 2. I'll look for the link and post it
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I have an MX10130 b/uv with an expiration date of 12/94. From the list above it looks like it's possibly a very early Omni 2 contract?

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Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:51:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wjoutlaw:

I have an MX10130 b/uv with an expiration date of 12/94. From the list above it looks like it's possibly a very early Omni 2 contract?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/46293709_354690401970241_2949025653258715136_n_jpg-816889.JPG
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Yes thats an Omni 2 tube. See the contract number.
Link Posted: 11/7/2019 3:01:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/7/2019 3:06:11 PM EST by TangoCrash]
First of all, thanks a lot for this great forum and thread!

I came across to a tube with this numbers in it:

ITT 272867-9-057
S/N 348393 DC0739

According to the owner it has 1800 FOM, min resolution of 65-67 lines and s/n 22, that would be an Omni IV or V.

What do you think?

PS. I looked for for the intro thread but didn't find it.
Link Posted: 11/7/2019 4:51:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TangoCrash:
First of all, thanks a lot for this great forum and thread!

I came across to a tube with this numbers in it:

ITT 272867-9-057
S/N 348393 DC0739

According to the owner it has 1800 FOM, min resolution of 65-67 lines and s/n 22, that would be an Omni IV or V.

What do you think?

PS. I looked for for the intro thread but didn't find it.
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You want to check the “how to tell what tube you have” sticky
Link Posted: 11/8/2019 3:10:00 PM EST
Right, my foul! I missed that thread... thanks!

Please delete my posts for the sake of a clean thread.
Link Posted: 2/23/2020 7:32:28 AM EST

Omni IX.


It's here. Sorry I've been too busy to write about it.

Just a little quiet notice here, since I haven't dragged out my old tables in almost a decade... But, quite a few laughed when I mentioned the new spec and for some reason, everyone missed it, so I'm not sure whether it was really well understood in the community, since even defence isn't talking about it from what I gather, but hey, it's public and it's relevant to the discussion, so I will update the tables at some point, though I doubt anyone will notice otherwise if I just quietly post here for the moment while I fix the tables up...

And the usual ITAR disclaimer - Yeah, it's public. PUBLIC DOMAIN. THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED THE SPECIFICATION INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN - though all the copies still say otherwise like so much other classified stuff, so I'm going to keep it to the general stuff for the moment, and don't go asking me for copies of the spec.

Well, what did you expect? They always release the Civvy version into the public domain. It does affect aviation after all. Well, that and the Omni VII MX11769 spec. And maybe a few weapon specs... But they always release the baseline Omni spec to the public each time they change it.

What's new in the 2020 Omni IX specification?
Quite a lot it seems.

Min S/N = 27 is now considered EOL and 33 is the new threshold.  WOW.... !!!!!

Res = 72lp center, 64lp edge or ANYWHERE else.  BIG change here....  Makes me wonder which manufacturer stuffed this up.
Bright Light = 36lp ( Still sucks.... They need to address that, but not in this release it seems - Photonis is kicking ass here Mr Trump... )
Shock =75g ( ie, Civvy version, Aviation etc.... )
Size: 17.5 - same same....
Min Gain of 70K.... Neat.
MAX EBI is reduced to 2.0 - I suspect filmed tubes are on the way out... Actually, much of this document makes it look like that.
HALO - 0.75mm MAX... And get this, it has to be measured THROUGH A REAL OBJECTIVE LENS... eg, ANVIS lens... Cool eh?

Oh yeah, nearly forgot.... They declassified unfilmed. It's about time...

Filmed Min PC - 2200
Unfilmed Min PC - 1700

@ 830 = Filmed 240, unfilmed 185
@ 880 = Filmed 120, unfilmed 90

Anyway, this one is fairly radical and I still haven't completed a full analysis of the new Omni IX standard, but it's pretty cool. Maybe NVGDude or Vic can add some more?

David.
Link Posted: 2/23/2020 8:04:32 AM EST
Thanks cj7hawk!

Yeah, seems like filmed is on the way out. Quite a lot to analyze or interpolate on for sure. =)
Link Posted: 2/23/2020 8:17:50 AM EST
Wow, so new milspec is now FOM 2376 or better? Did i read that right?
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Wow, so new milspec is now FOM 2376 or better? Did i read that right?
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That's how I read it...  I suppose for the sake of simplicity we should call it FOM2400.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:54:30 AM EST
Since a few people are asking, it's MIL-PRF-A3314408

This is the new spec that the manufacturers are looking at. Still draft and not ratified at this point.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:04:00 AM EST
At least we’re back on the right track and trying to make better tubes instead of what’s easier
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 11:07:43 AM EST
hot dang im digging the new omni specs

just in time for TNVC to throw some in RNVG's for me.... in a few months
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 12:47:23 PM EST
I’m not sure I see the writing on the wall for filmed tubes. EBI going down from 2.5 to 2.0 max seems totally reasonable for filmed tubes, and the resolution and SNR for filmed stuff seems like it’s been on the increase the last few years. I could see it getting tough to meet the Halo requirements.
Link Posted: 3/16/2020 7:13:09 AM EST
OK, if there was any chance that the specs were going to be withdrawn, or claimed published in error, I think that likelihood has well and truly passed.

Here's how to get the new Omni IX specification directly....

Go to https://beta.sam.gov/
Search for "MIL-PRF A3314408" without the quotes.

You will get one hit. Open it. Go to the bottom. Public release of specification can be located there.

Enjoy :)
David.
Link Posted: 3/16/2020 12:02:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cj7hawk:

OK, if there was any chance that the specs were going to be withdrawn, or claimed published in error, I think that likelihood has well and truly passed.

Here's how to get the new Omni IX specification directly....

Go to https://beta.sam.gov/
Search for "MIL-PRF A3314408" without the quotes.

You will get one hit. Open it. Go to the bottom. Public release of specification can be located there.

Enjoy :)
David.
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Awesome, thanks David!
Link Posted: 3/29/2020 1:49:29 AM EST
Been researching but thought I’d ask here and hope someone knows?
Just picked up another L3 PVS14 with contract #W91CRB-11-D-0083, NSN# 5855-01-432-0524
Can anyone tell me about it?
All I’ve found looked like it should be Omni VIII?
Link Posted: 6/24/2020 1:30:37 AM EST
Just got some 10160UW-EA-C00-20UM

Tube 1:
Photocathode sensitivity: 2633
EBI: 0.9
Luminance Gain: 68056
SNR: 34.8
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.8
FOM: 2506

Tube 2:
Photocathode sensitivity: 2404
EBI: 0.6
Luminance Gain: 63202
SNR: 34.8
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2506

Omni 8?
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 11:55:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Marvet85:
Just got some 10160UW-EA-C00-20UM

Tube 1:
Photocathode sensitivity: 2633
EBI: 0.9
Luminance Gain: 68056
SNR: 34.8
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.8
FOM: 2506

Tube 2:
Photocathode sensitivity: 2404
EBI: 0.6
Luminance Gain: 63202
SNR: 34.8
Center Resolution: 72
Halo: 0.7
FOM: 2506

Omni 8?
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20UM is a standard tube. An Omni tube would likely have a contract designator in that place, for example Omni VIII 10160s are 10160FG-SA-C01-1602 and would generally not have a data sheet.
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