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https://www.dsarms.com/p-13512-dsa-fal-sa58-us-made-steel-metric-pattern-magazine-20-round.aspx DSA FAL SA58 U.S. Made Steel Metric Pattern Magazine - 20 Round  Item Number: 11720-A Shipping Weight: 0.53 Price: $34.95 DSA FAL SA58 U.S. Made Metric Pattern Magazine - 20 Round These magazines were successfully tested in dozens of FAL type rifles including pre ban semi auto rifles, registered select fire rifles and numerous generations of DS Arms made SA58 FAL rifles. These test rifles included multiple Belgian, Argentine FSL, Brazilian SAR48, factory Israeli FAL and an original receiver STG58. Then out of multiple vintages of DSA rifles and aftermarket receiver types. Manufactured by DS Arms. 7.62x51mm - .308 Win. 20 Round Capacity. Steel Body Construction. SCAR Type Follower Design. Reinforced Steel Rib. Stamped Steel Floor Plate. Designed For Use In Metric Pattern FAL Rifles. This Magazine counts as three (3) 922r compliancy parts. These magazines will also work in the KelTec RFB 7.62x51mm rifle as well as early generation Rock River Arms LAR-8. These magazines will also fit Inch Pattern L1A1 rifles however we do not guarantee fit & function due to the differences between Inch and Metric rifles. Please Note: As with any manufactured product which has been designed to fit and work with a large number of other companies' products some fitting or minor break in may be required. Some rifles had a tighter fit then others. ------------- Just a quick FYI in case anybody is interested. They are available at the time of this post. Looks like a 5 magazine limit when ordering. |
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I’ll try a few, just placed order for 4 magazines. BTW, don’t forget they offer free shipping to Arf.Com Also wanted to add I’ve had good experience so far with DSA polymer FAL mags so far. Have used them at the range and haven’t had any issues yet but I don’t keep them loaded between range sessions so can’t speak for long term loaded use. |
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Originally Posted By BuddyChryst: They do? What code? Originally Posted By BuddyChryst: Originally Posted By Princeton: I’ll try a few, just placed order for 4 magazines. BTW, don’t forget they offer free shipping to Arf.Com They do? What code? Used to just add “AR15.Com Free Shipping” to the comment section when checking out. Just looked in the Industry section to find the post about it but seems they don’t have an industry partner section anymore. Not sure if they still offer the free shipping or not. |
| Reviews on the FAL Files are not positive, which was not unexpected given DSA's track record. |
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Originally Posted By lew: Reviews on the FAL Files are not positive, which was not unexpected given DSA's track record. Seriously? Again? How many different countries successfully made these things. Thought DSA had the technical data package from Steyr as well… Added- sounds like they have some issues with bolt interference maybe? Serious WTF. |
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Originally Posted By tac556: Seriously? Again? How many different countries successfully made these things. Thought DSA had the technical data package from Steyr as well… Added- sounds like they have some issues with bolt interference maybe? Serious WTF. Originally Posted By tac556: Originally Posted By lew: Reviews on the FAL Files are not positive, which was not unexpected given DSA's track record. Seriously? Again? How many different countries successfully made these things. Thought DSA had the technical data package from Steyr as well… Added- sounds like they have some issues with bolt interference maybe? Serious WTF. Apparently, QA/QC is too expensive and time-consuming for them. 
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"What is socialism? The most difficult and tortuous way to progress from capitalism to capitalism." -Stated at an intel conference, East Berlin, Oct. 1988
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By EMSflyer: Are these the new and improved steel mags they announced at SHOT Show? Yep. Same old story. It's strange that the eight (since sold off two) of the 30 round DSA mags have worked flawlessly, even though three of them had twenty round -length springs in them. 
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"What is socialism? The most difficult and tortuous way to progress from capitalism to capitalism." -Stated at an intel conference, East Berlin, Oct. 1988
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By Bakke1: Has anyone here ordered these yet? I just bought my first fal and it only came with one, and these are maybe the only metal mags I can find on the internet Got 4 of them yesterday and had a chance to check them out today. No time to range test them but figured I see how they fit. They are crazy tight in my receiver. Tight enough I couldn’t initially remove them by hand. I used a small rubber mallet to get them to unlock while holding the magazine release. All 4 are the same. After rocking them in and out holding the release they loosened enough I can do it by hand but still way tighter than any other magazine I have. Then when I loosened them all up a bit I looked for any tell tale signs of rubbing and only thing I found was on my receiver inside the mag well. I’ve included a picture but to be absolutely honest I couldn’t say this wear wasn’t there before these magazines but this is a very new gun that I’ve only had to the range 2 times for a total of about 160 rounds. Attached File Going to keep them and try them out next time I’m shooting. |
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Originally Posted By Princeton: Got 4 of them yesterday and had a chance to check them out today. No time to range test them but figured I see how they fit. They are crazy tight in my receiver. Tight enough I couldn’t initially remove them by hand. I used a small rubber mallet to get them to unlock while holding the magazine release. All 4 are the same. After rocking them in and out holding the release they loosened enough I can do it by hand but still way tighter than any other magazine I have. Then when I loosened them all up a bit I looked for any tell tale signs of rubbing and only thing I found was on my receiver inside the mag well. I’ve included a picture but to be absolutely honest I couldn’t say this wear wasn’t there before these magazines but this is a very new gun that I’ve only had to the range 2 times for a total of about 160 rounds. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1241/IMG_2218_jpeg-3352752.JPG Going to keep them and try them out next time I’m shooting. I wish PSA would just buy out DSA and fix this. Then give us H&R FALs |
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Originally Posted By RedFox1911: I wish PSA would just buy out DSA and fix this. Then give us H&R FALs That's one of the best suggestions I've ever seen on this site. |
"What is socialism? The most difficult and tortuous way to progress from capitalism to capitalism." -Stated at an intel conference, East Berlin, Oct. 1988
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By Bakke1: Has anyone here ordered these yet? I just bought my first fal and it only came with one, and these are maybe the only metal mags I can find on the internet https://www.ar15.com/exchange/topicEE.html?t=2478563&f=47&type=1 |
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I only ordered one, because the polymer ones are not good fits. This one fits pretty well. It is a bit tighter than the Israeli mags I have, which are perfect. But it’s not any struggle to seat or release like the polymer are. Of course, I have a DSA receiver, so I would kinda hope they fit! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By par0thead151: who makes SCAR mags? DSA should pay them and get educated on how to make these pattern mags reliably. or PSA should step in and make these at scale to make it economical for a sale price and profit for them I think that's actually what they did. I had to return and get refunded 5 mags. The mag feed lips on these were the same as SCARs and the followers probably too. It caused too wide of a feed angle which nose dived the rounds into my Coonan's feed ramp |
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I shot mine thru my DS Armrs Para. Everything cycled fine until I looked down at these magazines from above. I compared the just fired magazine next to the never fired magazine. Yep,. The just fired magazine had a plastic chip broke off its feeding lips. DS Arms just might have a Winner here if they did what Ruger does with their 10/22 magazines. Answer:Metal Feeding Lips. |
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Originally Posted By Meat-Hook: I shot mine thru my DS Armrs Para. Everything cycled fine until I looked down at these magazines from above. I compared the just fired magazine next to the never fired magazine. Yep,. The just fired magazine had a plastic chip broke off its feeding lips. DS Arms just might have a Winner here if they did what Ruger does with their 10/22 magazines. Answer:Metal Feeding Lips. Were you shooting their new polymer mags, or the new metal mags? The new metal mag feed lips are metal. My polymer mags swole up when loaded fully, but nothing broke off them that I noticed. |
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Originally Posted By last_crusader: I emailed asking about 30 rd mag springs, and they won't be doing those (or the metal mags) until maybe spring. Guess they don't like money? I put Wolff 20 round +5% springs in my 30 rounders and they run great. Hell, three of my 30s ran fine with regular twenty round springs in them.
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"What is socialism? The most difficult and tortuous way to progress from capitalism to capitalism." -Stated at an intel conference, East Berlin, Oct. 1988
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By Princeton: I’ll try a few, just placed order for 4 magazines. BTW, don’t forget they offer free shipping to Arf.Com Also wanted to add I’ve had good experience so far with DSA polymer FAL mags so far. Have used them at the range and haven’t had any issues yet but I don’t keep them loaded between range sessions so can’t speak for long term loaded use. All I'm buying for lower cost. |
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I dont get this. How har are they to make? I get the feed lip but thats any mag. I have a cobbeled togethered mag with a USA bottom plate that overhangs the bottom so much I ground it down after bending it back flat with a 2 pound sledge. (to be fair to who ever made I'm not 100% sure its for an FAL mag) It has a pink spring that is not uniformly bent. The follower nylon(?) with file marks or maybe a beaver chewed on it. The mag tube looks like somene drove tent pegs with it. A lot of tent pegs. I did bang out the the dent that they made when they tried driving a railroad spike ( kind of) I have around 20 different FALs (out of state with the mag you fat Fred Flinstone looking piece of shit) All have fired a full mag without a stopage. I have never had a stoppage. So it seems there is one critical part. To tell you the truth the feed lips dont look that hot either. |
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Originally Posted By ARMALITE-FAN: I dont get this. How har are they to make? I get the feed lip but thats any mag. You're not alone, they have the prints for the whole damn rifle. I understand manufacturing magazines is not all that easy if you're starting from scratch but there are plenty of mag manufactures they could turn to that don't make junk. Checkmate comes to mind... I forget who it is but there is a Korean manufacturer that is making metal metric mags, they are getting good reviews at the Files. I am aware there was a Korean manufacturer a while back that made junk mags but these mags are G2G. I'll try to find a link... |
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Were they the United Defense ones from KeepShooting? I’ve been curious about them myself. https://www.keepshooting.com/fal-magazine.html My stash is healthy on 20s but I really want someone to get reliable 30s back on the market so my FALO will look more awesome.
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FYI - DSA 20rd metal mags back in stock. Just bought 5 for my SA58. https://dsarms.com/product/dsa-fal-sa58-u-s-made-steel-metric-pattern-magazine-20-round-dsa-fal-sa58-u-s-made-steel-metric-pattern-magazine-20-round/ |
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Holy smokes thank you for this update! Ordered a couple myself. Ive been watching for another 5rd magazine and the suppressor gas plug. I cant find a notification option on the new website, but it might be because I've only looked from my phone.. |
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Originally Posted By Findsman: Were they the United Defense ones from KeepShooting? I’ve been curious about them myself. https://www.keepshooting.com/fal-magazine.html My stash is healthy on 20s but I really want someone to get reliable 30s back on the market so my FALO will look more awesome. Supposedly the DSA 30’s have worked much better than their 20’s, just FYI. Not sure why the folks below you are excited about DSA 20 rd metal mags being in stock, unless they have improved them. To be totally fair, I have seen plenty of old tired surplus FAL mags that don’t function great as well. But at least they have some reason- wear and tear… I would skip these DSA’s until the make the work better. |
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Just got them in the mail. Shipping eas lighting fast..like day of fast. Both lock in perfectly. Only tried 9 rounds in each because its like 3 degrees and dark out so I was a baby, but both mags ran 9 rounds and locked back. Will check in later. |
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Been running thee mags pretty hard, and honestly not a single issue. Its been very very very cold out and the wind won't relent, so after 40-80 rounds I have to come thaw out. DSA SA58 FAL Steel Mags! Testing in -16 Maine winter. Thanks #DSA #DSarms #FAL #SA58 #outdoors |
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Originally Posted By Ghostface: link please? Good condition- $29.99 Fair condition- $22.99 Excellent were around $50, but they've been gone for a day or so already. |
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A guy at the files purchased and received the new DSA mags very recently and they resemble milsurp metric mags, a DSA rep confirmed they made changes to the mags. So hopefully these will work. Pics of the mags are in this link: DSA Mags |
If a 147 grn 9mm at 1000 FPS is the hammer of Thor then a 165 grn. 40 at 1200 fps must a lightening bolt from Zeus!
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Originally Posted By Ghostface: A guy at the files purchased and received the new DSA mags very recently and they resemble milsurp metric mags, a DSA rep confirmed they made changes to the mags. So hopefully these will work. Pics of the mags are in this link: DSA Mags Hey I know that guy! Used the mags and little more today in the woods. Made a stupid short of this blow down I've been shooting at to expended any leftover ammo in the magazine.  Tree Removal with the Right Arm of the Free World. #outdoors #dsarms #sa58 #fal #whoneedsachainsaw |
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