Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
Armory Sponsor
6/8/2022 9:13:16 PM EDT
I had a Ruger Yukon Magnum.  Pretty much sucked.  Higher noise than my 22LR lever with CB caps.

...had I known that..
6/8/2022 9:16:08 PM EDT
[#1]
That's why they are called 'moderators' not suppressors.
6/8/2022 9:18:54 PM EDT
[#2]
I mean air guns are already quiet, a suppressor is kind of pointless. But yeah a 22lr suppressed is the way to go.
6/9/2022 3:00:08 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By JoseyWales:
I had a Ruger Yukon Magnum.  Pretty much sucked.  Higher noise than my 22LR lever with CB caps.

...had I known that..
View Quote

It’s really hard to suppress the spring noise. The tube on my Umarex Origin does really good compared to my BSA Buccaneer but both are PCP air rifles.
Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
6/10/2022 11:39:19 PM EDT
[#4]
A PCP rifle with internally shrouded barrel is pretty quiet.  The impact of the pellet is louder than the report.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

God, Guns, and Aviation; Life is good!
6/10/2022 11:45:40 PM EDT
[#5]


This bad boy is Whisper quiet, shooting a 14.3 gr .22 cal pellet to 900fps.
The Springers are hard to quiet down. Not so for the PCPs
Just Drop... Buckethead!
6/16/2022 1:18:56 PM EDT
[#6]
Not so with PCPs.  Moderators do well.
6/16/2022 1:47:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Bandhunter:
Not so with PCPs.  Moderators do well.
View Quote



Exactly, Moderators can't do shit with Spring Piston guns. But PCPs....yeah, they work nice.
Just Drop... Buckethead!
6/19/2022 12:15:40 PM EDT
[#8]
If you don’t want the expense of a PCP setup, try a .22 Diana Chaser. CO2 powered and whisper quiet with the 16” barrel + moderator.
Good velocity from a CO2 cartridge, very accurate. Takes the Stormrider magazines or comes as a single shot. None of my springers or gas pistons are as quiet. Cheap, under $150. Some countries require the moderator be ‘permanently attached’ mine just screwed right on so could be used with rifle or pistol barrel.
6/19/2022 3:05:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote History
Originally Posted By wanderson:
If you don’t want the expense of a PCP setup, try a .22 Diana Chaser. CO2 powered and whisper quiet with the 16” barrel + moderator.
Good velocity from a CO2 cartridge, very accurate. Takes the Stormrider magazines or comes as a single shot. None of my springers or gas pistons are as quiet. Cheap, under $150. Some countries require the moderator be ‘permanently attached’ mine just screwed right on so could be used with rifle or pistol barrel.
View Quote



This man knows. I also have the Diana .22 Chaser combo. A great shooting setup in either pistol or rifle. That moderator really surprised me when I first installed the rifle barrel and shot it. I had to visually look through the barrel's bore thinking the pellet didn't come out.
6/19/2022 3:08:19 PM EDT
[#10]
I've got a PCP with a suppressor, it's very effective. Without the suppressor it's LOUD.
6/19/2022 3:27:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Harv24:
https://i.imgur.com/WNZT06H.jpg

This bad boy is Whisper quiet, shooting a 14.3 gr .22 cal pellet to 900fps.
The Springers are hard to quiet down. Not so for the PCPs
View Quote


@Harv24

Mind sharing what brand/model that is?
6/19/2022 4:13:07 PM EDT
[#12]
Its a "BroCock"

Guys.. really good choice of a brand name.. like next level stuff..

They are like $2k usd
6/19/2022 4:15:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote History
Originally Posted By usmcmp:
That's why they are called 'moderators' not suppressors.
View Quote

Are you trying to say that all moderators suck?






6/19/2022 4:49:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By turbo_infidel:
Its a "BroCock"

Guys.. really good choice of a brand name.. like next level stuff..

They are like $2k usd
View Quote



While I agree the Name is not my first choice (Those silly Brits), They make excellent air guns. And I bought Mine (Concept XR lite) for around $1300. You need to shop around. a bit.

I spent ALOT of time on the various ARFCOM websites for airguns and this one met all my criteria.

Keep in mind, I did not jump into PCP's head first. I did a ton of research and picked the Benjamin Cayden as my first. That was under $500 and was a great first choice.

Unlike most, I could have bought a $200Gamo from the local Scheels if all I was looking to do is pop a few Starlings and the occasional tin can.
But I found out pretty quick that these higher end air guns can have phenomenal power and range and allow me to shoot indoors and out all year vs. all my powder burning guns, which seem to be on everybody's hit list and makes sourcing ammo and ammo components expensive and next to impossible.


I've taken to this sport pretty hard, hard enough I'm saving for a "Buy once cry once" air compressor which will allow me to have Air independence, so the only thing I need to buy are pellets, which have not been hit like the powder burning market has.


Luckily most guys think buying a $2k Air gun is crazy, So I finally stumbled on a hobby that I can rely on to be around for awhile and not price me out of it.


Nothing like taking a nice quiet PCP into the woods for a day of hunting. Can't wait for Sept.
Just Drop... Buckethead!
7/2/2022 9:24:11 AM EDT
[#15]
I traded into an Air Force Escape SS .22 with the moderator. It’s pretty quiet and it hits hard. I also bought a Benjamin Bulldog .357 with the built in moderator and it’s also pretty quiet. It does make a steel plate ring pretty good when it hits.
7/4/2022 9:44:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RNO][Edited] [#16]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Harv24:
https://i.imgur.com/WNZT06H.jpg

This bad boy is Whisper quiet, shooting a 14.3 gr .22 cal pellet to 900fps.
The Springers are hard to quiet down. Not so for the PCPs
View Quote


@Harv24 what model of Brocock is that? I can find some close but not exact.

How do you rate a Brocock vs an Airforce Condor or the Escape

Would you prefer an FX?
Of course I talk to myself.. Sometimes I need Expert advice!
7/4/2022 10:46:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Its the Concept XR in .22

I snagged mine from an air shop in Portugal before they were hard to get  (Mundilars) They were great to deal with and had fast DHL/UPS shipping.

The Brocock is my second PCP, the Benjamin Cayden was the first. That one was a Hand pump friendly PCP that was more of a traditional wooden stocked rifle with a side lever action. I was shooting them booth today and still love the Cayden.

I know all the cool kids have the FX M3, but honestly It was a bit more then I wanted to spend The Cayden I got for under $500 and the XR set me back around $1300. I don't have any experience with the Air force or Escape models.

I'm saving for a Alkin compressor so I'm not going to be buying another gun anytime soon.

At some point I might pull the trigger on an M3 to see if there all that, but I gotta be honest. Both the Cayden and the Brocock are pretty amazing. The Brocock will be my in the woods Squirrel hunting rig this fall and I'm looking forward to that.
Just Drop... Buckethead!
7/5/2022 11:14:06 AM EDT
[#18]
Like the OP I'm looking for something quiet (moderator) and with power in .22 or .25

FX is expensive but I wonder if it is that BOCO item like your compressor.
Of course I talk to myself.. Sometimes I need Expert advice!
7/5/2022 7:54:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RNO:
Like the OP I'm looking for something quiet (moderator) and with power in .22 or .25

FX is expensive but I wonder if it is that BOCO item like your compressor.
View Quote



The "affordable" FX Dreamline is a BOCO, as are most of the other FX guns.  However, even the Dreamline will open up a world in which you just might want other guns.  Don't go looking at the Daystate  Wolfs in red or grey, for that is a deep rabbit hole for the tech savvy.

To stay on topic of the thread, by itself the Dreamline is rather quiet.  But, with an aftermarket Moderator it is just as quiet as a Marauder.
If I were a hedonist, I'd be a hermit.

You need a good airgun if you don't have one already.
7/6/2022 12:44:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RNO][Edited] [#20]
Airforce Condor SS

Probably going with this AF Condor tank combo in the link because of the tank and the price.  The FX with moderator is quieter by far but I've been reading about adding a Donny FL. I like to tinker so why not.

I'm glad the OP started this thread. LOL.

Attached File
Of course I talk to myself.. Sometimes I need Expert advice!
7/6/2022 8:10:19 AM EDT
[#21]
My Dreamline Tactical in .22 and .25 is as loud as a .22 LR.  even with the DonnyFL.  My Akela with a BuckRail suppressor is like a spoon hitting a pot and my Walther Reign is obnoxiously loud!
I have been using a Yong Heng compressor to fill my Air Venturi tank for two years with no problems.  Keeping it cool helps!
7/15/2022 1:54:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigDaddy0004][Edited] [#22]
IMHO, my FX Dream-Tac Compact .22 cal with a DonnyFL Sumo moderator is nowhere near as loud as an unsuppressed 22LR.
I'm shooting at Sub12 Ft/Lb power levels. (backyard friendly)
Also using a Yong Heng compressor to fill my Omega 75 cu. ft. tank.

FX Dream Tac Compact 22 cal DFL Sumo Sub12


Attached File

GEAR USED:
FX Dream-Tac Compact .22 cal
FX 300cc Carbon Fiber Bottle
ATN X-Sight 4K Pro 3-14x
ATN ABL 1000  LRF
ATN X-Trac Remote
DonnyFL Sumo Moderator
Atlas Bipod BT46-LW17 PSR
JSB Jumbo Heavy 18.13gr .22 cal
FX Pocket Chronograph
Sub12 Ft/Lb Power Level
Attached File
Worf: No! Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects. (dreamily) And claw at you.

Sign up to continue the discussion

Create a free account to share your thoughts, follow topics, and connect with the AR15.COM community.

Already a member? Sign In

Armory Sponsor