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Link Posted: 10/26/2009 10:48:06 AM EDT
[#1]
Tony,

So I finally received the FOIA documents the other week and wanted to provide you with more information on my Colt M16A1 (SN 9310894): It looks like its birth was December 20th, 1997 and it was originally made with a 20" barrel.
Link Posted: 10/26/2009 10:48:57 AM EDT
[#2]
*1977*
Link Posted: 10/26/2009 12:50:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tony_k] [#3]
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 1:22:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Found another one:
#W350837
Marked with Colt logo on the left side magwell and 'property of U.S. Government' M4a1 carbine cal. 5.56mm
also marked -Colt Defense Hartford, Conn. U.S.A.  on the left side lower receiver above the trigger pin hole

14.5" bbl cut for 203, selector markings safe, semi and auto with collapsible stock. This was a 'contractor' weapon issued to me by D.O.S. in A-stan
Link Posted: 11/10/2009 1:34:18 PM EDT
[#5]
We just received several from DoD on a program for the agency.  All look to be 604s   - non-trap butt, no forward assist.

Earliest serial # 049,xxx had chrome slick-side bolt carrier, early large-head firing pin, 3-prong FH and no fence around mag release.

Latest serial # 4,01x,xxx had std M16A1 features incl. fence around mag release.

All are roll marked as follows:

COLT
AR-15
PROPERTY
OF US GOVT.
M 16
CAL. 5.56 MM.
SERIAL XXXXX


Link Posted: 12/16/2009 5:31:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: davev] [#6]
I'll add mine:









This is a good carbine for reference, it is new and unmodified. SN 9506663
Link Posted: 1/16/2010 2:08:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: limeytwo] [#7]
Just purchased an transferable  M16A2 burst roll stamped rifle, dark gray, sn#8006xxx everything is standard A2, except the lower receiver is in A1 configuration forging, this is an un-molested original rifle NIB or ANIB.

Was it common for Colt to roll stamp a non reinforced lower with M16A2,

I have seen earlier serial numbered 8 mil series rifles with regular reinforced A2 receivers and black finish, so were guns manufactured out of serial number order, as my gun is quite late in the transferable pre may 86 range with an A1 style lower and gray color, yet earlier ones were black with A2 style lowers

Was Colt really that unconcerned with what receiver forging they used and does the non reinforced (but still M16A2 marked) lower alter the rifles value significantly.
Link Posted: 1/17/2010 11:43:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By limeytwo:
Just purchased an transferable  M16A2 burst roll stamped rifle, dark gray,....  this is an un-molested original rifle NIB or ANIB.
....

Pictures required... please!

Link Posted: 1/17/2010 12:20:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 2/11/2010 3:02:49 PM EDT
[#10]
# 6560611 is another M16A1 HBAR with the M14 bipod it for sale now on subguns.
Link Posted: 4/29/2010 5:08:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By tgus:
# 6560611 is another M16A1 HBAR with the M14 bipod it for sale now on subguns.


9560611 is the correct serial #, Its mine now

Link Posted: 5/4/2010 9:16:39 PM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By dmtsc:
Originally Posted By tgus:
# 6560611 is another M16A1 HBAR with the M14 bipod it for sale now on subguns.


9560611 is the correct serial #, Its mine now



oops I didn't notice I messed that up. Congrats on a great gun. Here is a another serial to add to the list.
Link Posted: 8/11/2010 11:34:08 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Ekie:
Not doing research on commercial rifles, but I have noted a few things not mentioned elsewhere:

There are a bunch of odd balls in the 014000-015XXX range.  

It appears that Colt's put out a batch of rifles in the 014000-015000 range in 1965.  Unlike the rifles made in 1959-63 these have a partial lower receiver boss, and are not marked ARMALITE, and were built with parts circa 1965 (as in black furniture, non chrome bolt, etc, etc).  A few are even marked Model 01.

018000-039XXX

Mixture of US and non US Property marked Model 02's, plus some other tool room one offs, and commercial guns.

200,000 serial number range
various tool room experiments, and commercial guns, none US Property marked

300,000 serial number range
not used

400,000 serial number range
various tool room experiments, and commercial guns, none US Property marked



I just had my hands on a "US Government Property" M16 with the serial 320XXX.
No prefix letters or anything. No forward assist. Black triangle handgards. Bird cage flash hider.
It's an old Military rifle.

Any idea of it's age?

Link Posted: 11/29/2010 11:22:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jjlovik] [#14]
Tony, this one is in my inventory.It was listed earlier as ANIB. It still is. It is standard 20 inch. Thanks, Jerry
Link Posted: 3/23/2011 12:59:47 AM EDT
[#15]
I have a Colt factory rollmarked M16A1. Purchased in original A1 configuration, 20" barrel, triangular handguards, tear-drop forward assist. Rebuilt in a more modern configuration, but all internals stay factory Colt. Run a few different uppers on it, but maintain all the original parts. Serial # is 9256XXX. I know it was in a VA police dept it's entire life and I believe it was manufactured around 74-75 timeframe. No additional engraving or markings from dept, selector marked safe-semi-auto. Hope that helps the database Tony. If you stumble across any info regarding this firearm please pass it on. One more thing, it was purchased from Ruben Mendiola, whom I highly recommend.
Link Posted: 1/28/2012 2:16:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 243winxb] [#16]
# 9278363   Sold in 2011 to a dealer. Wonder where it is  now?  M16A1 Carbine. Bough new in 1979.  3X Colt scope.  Photos >    www.photobucket.com/M16A1   and slide show  http://s338.photobucket.com/user/joe1944usa/slideshow/M16A1%20Carbine
Link Posted: 1/28/2012 7:36:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 1/29/2012 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Could be, Email  was no longer in use.
Originally Posted By tony_k:
Originally Posted By 243winxb:
# 9278363   Sold in 2011 to a dealer. Wonder where it is  now?

Ummm .... here? http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=145653


Link Posted: 11/12/2012 10:21:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: geavlaw] [#19]
All:

Just purchased from Ruben an M16A1 factory carbine. Called Colt to try and track down the date of manufacture, and any other information Colt might have on the firearm. It is serial number 92846XX, but the Colt representative's understanding was that there should be a two-letter prefix, which does not appear in any of the photos we have looked at so far. Any assistance from the forum as to this serial number M16 would be most appreciated.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 4/5/2013 11:06:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Tony,
Here is another to add to the list.
9280xxx

Rolled marked M16A1
14.5" barrel
2 position stock

Originally sold by dealer to 1st owner in 1978.
I bought it in 2000.
Link Posted: 5/12/2013 11:11:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tony_k] [#21]
Link Posted: 5/12/2013 11:13:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tony_k] [#22]
Link Posted: 5/12/2013 11:16:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 6/6/2013 11:04:51 PM EDT
[#24]
I feel honored to be able to add to this thread.

9267104 - Factory Carbine
Link Posted: 1/9/2014 5:25:52 PM EDT
[#25]
I guess I can contribute.  I know nothing really about my M16.  Maybe someone can shed some light on it, because I've never seen another upper like this before (though my searching has been somewhat limited).

Marked Colt M16
SN:  5096XXX



I bought it used, so it has been fired by the previous owner, and since I got it, I took most of the factory parts off and safely stored them.  It now has a different Colt LPK in it and a different stock, upper, etc.

Anyone have any idea what the deal with this one is?  I suppose I could take the hand guards off the upper and check out the profile if that would help.
Link Posted: 2/23/2014 6:28:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Abacab] [#26]
I have another one to add. Colt US Property Marked M16A1. 20 inch barrel with tear drop forward assist. No brass deflector. Bird cage flash hider and full lower ribbing. Serial number 534XXXX. NOT a reweld. Still has the DOD acceptance stamp (that I managed to wipe some off damn it!). My guess is a former DOE gun that got moved to the private market. Last owner had it since 91 I think. The receiver is engraved with rack number 56. There was an old thread about these guns.
Link Posted: 2/27/2014 1:20:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: barniicz] [#27]
Hello guys,
I live in the Czech Republic and I am the owner of the M16A1. With great interest I read this discussion and I would like to add a to database on my gun. Laws in the Czech Republic allow only hold a gun shooting in mode Semi. Therefore, the mode is  Auto blocked.I would love to learn more about this great weapon, and therefore I would like to ask for help. The weapon was never operated and is completely new. In particular, I am interested in the year of manufacture and whether it is in original condition or has undergone any alteration. If it is in a state as when leaving the factory Colt.
The gun is marked:
COLT
M16A1
CAL. 5.56 MM.
9532817

Pictures:  

http://barnii.rajce.idnes.cz/M16A1/

Thank you in advance for your help.
Best regards
Barnii
Link Posted: 2/27/2014 4:14:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tony_k] [#28]
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 1:24:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Hello,
Thanks for the answer. I'm sorry, but I have not figured out how to upload photos. These weapons I've never seen the shelves of our stores. There were weapons of modern manufacturers - Dlask, Proarm Armory, Norinco ap., But not Colt M16A1. I think it was a very limited supply of new weapons. I wanted to know the origin of these weapons, but I did not find the exact information. One theory is that it could be on unused weapons of war in Yugoslavia. I saw 5 pieces and they were all new never used. All serial numbers of the rifles began 95XXXXX. I do know that the serial number 9538406 is also in the Czech Republic. Selling price of these weapons is approx. 3000-USD.
I will try again to insert photos.
Best regards
Barnii

https://imageshack.com/i/g1f1scj
https://imageshack.com/i/n7cj2nj
https://imageshack.com/i/3u81etj
https://imageshack.com/i/n5vkrnj
https://imageshack.com/i/g9v07xj
https://imageshack.com/i/0j64yxj
https://imageshack.com/i/0yxerpj
https://imageshack.com/i/g1re9hj
https://imageshack.com/i/mjo9taj
https://imageshack.com/my/images
Link Posted: 5/12/2014 6:33:31 PM EDT
[#30]
This one has its 35th birthday this month.  Serial# already on file here.
Link Posted: 5/12/2014 8:46:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 5/18/2014 10:02:58 AM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By barniicz:
Hello,
Thanks for the answer. I'm sorry, but I have not figured out how to upload photos. These weapons I've never seen the shelves of our stores. There were weapons of modern manufacturers - Dlask, Proarm Armory, Norinco ap., But not Colt M16A1. I think it was a very limited supply of new weapons. I wanted to know the origin of these weapons, but I did not find the exact information. One theory is that it could be on unused weapons of war in Yugoslavia. I saw 5 pieces and they were all new never used. All serial numbers of the rifles began 95XXXXX. I do know that the serial number 9538406 is also in the Czech Republic. Selling price of these weapons is approx. 3000-USD.
I will try again to insert photos.
Best regards
Barnii

https://imageshack.com/i/g1f1scj
https://imageshack.com/i/n7cj2nj
https://imageshack.com/i/3u81etj
https://imageshack.com/i/n5vkrnj
https://imageshack.com/i/g9v07xj
https://imageshack.com/i/0j64yxj
https://imageshack.com/i/0yxerpj
https://imageshack.com/i/g1re9hj
https://imageshack.com/i/mjo9taj
https://imageshack.com/my/images
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those rifles arrived here in Italy as well.
mine has sn in 9,300,000 range.. new never fired complete with Colt branded M7 bayonet
Link Posted: 6/21/2014 1:30:43 AM EDT
[#33]
This is Colt M16A1 #9392192

Link Posted: 6/21/2014 12:45:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 9/15/2014 12:29:21 PM EDT
[#35]
Anyone heard of a US Property marked 9 million serial gun? There is one mention of one in the thread but doubt exists. My understanding is that they are commercial guns.
Link Posted: 9/15/2014 2:29:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 9/15/2014 3:09:24 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By tony_k:
Not commercial guns, because Colt had a policy of not selling MGs to private parties. By law they could not, because they never paid any federal excise tax on their MGs. That saved them around 10% per gun. (FET is paid by the manufacturer and is due on guns destined for civilian sales; LE, miqitary and export guns are exempt from the tax.)

The 9-mil SN range was dedicated to LE and export sales. As such, some of the LE M16s were indeed diverted to private owners by distributors and dealers (though Colt would sever sales to any FFL caught doing so).

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if a few 9-mil series receivers were used to fill out a military contract here and there. Colt was always doing stuff like that.

However, in all my years researching the 9-mil series, I've never seen a verified "US PROP" example.

I have, however, seen some 9-mil guns on which the civilian owner later had property markings engraved. I guess, because they wanted one like they carried in 'Nam or whatever. Before 1986, these were $700 guns, so owners did all sorts of odd things to them. The remarked guns are pretty easy to spot.

HTH.
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Hey now, only I am allowed to engage in semantics between commercial and LE/export specificity.

Seriously though, I appreciate your explicitness. I was aware Colt didn't sell them to the general civilian market but I always referred to LE/export guns as 'commercial' as it wasn't military contract. I won't make that mistake again.

My US Prop A1 serial number range is 5 million as a DOE gun. The store I work for now says they had a 9 million US Prop though I never laid eyes on it.

I posed the question because someone on Sturm has a claimed 9 million gun that is marked a government gun for sale. I asked for pictures but none have appeared. Of course, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist but given the rash of fraud on Sturm right now makes me doubt it is real.
Link Posted: 10/28/2014 8:30:58 PM EDT
[#38]
I own a Colt M16A1 Carbine serial # 9288xxx   ––  14.5 in carbine, factory original Model 653
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 8:41:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Colt M16A1 PROPERTY marked

non-transferable



533547X

533858X

534079X

534169X

534176X

534214X

534250X

534309X

534320X

534540X

534590X

534621X



There is one M16 takeoff upper in the safe (with late 3-prong), so it may have come off one of these lowers. I've also seen one type D stock without trapdoor, but the rest all have the latest M16A1 features to include riveted front sling swivels. Barrels marked C MP CHROME BORE.
Link Posted: 5/14/2016 10:19:30 PM EDT
[#40]
M16a2 us property marked

615231x
6239xxx
635626x
622322x
6140xxx
623217x
636980x
615059x
623906x
625433x
603581x

all these collected in the past 6 months

not as rare of a gun as once thought

Link Posted: 5/28/2016 2:22:16 PM EDT
[#41]
i own one of them.....i paid a premium on it(not as much as some, but not as little as some either).....my guess is there is 100 or less....someone has a pallet of them...

always in the 6 million serial # range, so i feel they are legit...had mine inspected my a local M16 expert w/ Marine experience....he spent as much time smelling it as looking at it.....he told me its legit



Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:24:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Help help. Trying to find history on M16 marked
Colt M16A1
CAL 5.56 MM
AL304309

Above these lines is a emblem with cross swords over an anchor with flight wings over anchor and a bursting bomb on top.

Any help is appreciative

Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:47:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveP1] [#43]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By 03BULLSEYE:
Help help. Trying to find history on M16 marked
Colt M16A1
CAL 5.56 MM
AL304309

Above these lines is a emblem with cross swords over an anchor with flight wings over anchor and a bursting bomb on top.

Any help is appreciative

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Colt has no records found on that number?

Can you get a hold of a picture of it?


Link Posted: 12/26/2016 10:45:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By 03BULLSEYE:
Help help. Trying to find history on M16 marked
Colt M16A1
CAL 5.56 MM
AL304309

Above these lines is a emblem with cross swords over an anchor with flight wings over anchor and a bursting bomb on top.

Any help is appreciative
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All the Colt M16s that start with an AL serial number were contract guns made for the Lebanese Army. I don't know the dates. I have the magwell from one of them. Around 14,000 were made with the AL serial numbers.
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 12:03:12 AM EDT
[#45]
Tony, I got here just the stripped lower receiver and I have 3 Q?s about it, but 1st here's the info off it, COLT M16A1 CAL 5.56MM SERIAL#95124XX, 1ST QUESTION, WHEN WAS IT BUILT, PRE MAY 19, 1986 OR AFTER? 2ND- WHAT ORIGINAL UPPER RECEIVER WAS WITH IT, 3RD- WHERE CAN I FIND OUT IF ITS TRANSFERABLE/ REGISTERED,THX
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 12:07:06 AM EDT
[#46]
Tony or any, I got here just the stripped lower receiver and I have 3 Q?s about it, but 1st here's the info off it, COLT M16A1 CAL 5.56MM SERIAL#9512499, 1ST QUESTION, WHEN WAS IT BUILT, PRE MAY 19, 1986 OR AFTER? 2ND- WHAT ORIGINAL UPPER RECEIVER WAS WITH IT?   3RD- HOW OR WHERE CAN I FIND OUT IF THIS RECEIVER IS TRANSFERABLE/ REGISTERED?  THX
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 12:21:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 7:47:03 PM EDT
[#48]
9378933 –– Rollmarked M16A1, standard 20" A1 rifle. Former Athens - Clark County, GA police gun.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 8:42:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Not to go too far off topic, Does the following statement mean I carried an H&R M16A1? My weapons card from 91/92.

H&R M16A1 – SN: 2,004,14x: Harrington & Richardson licensed built: US Property marked. Forward assist.

Link Posted: 1/14/2018 10:33:53 PM EDT
[#50]
9507049, New unfired M16A1. just transfered it out for a customer.
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