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Posted: 8/16/2026 5:33:25 PM EDT
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Thanks in advance for your help. Have a $99 LGS rescue Rem 11-48 12GA with a vent rib barrel to be converted to an SBS. Will have @guncat at Rose Action Sports to do the work as I want it done right vs. done right now. pix:  12 3/4" would put the muzzle just past the 'post' for the rib to allow a supported front bead. As the farm is in NW Louisiana, there is a lot of brush/vines that would snag if the vent was open at the end. I want (but don't require) choke tubes. Already have a Mossberg 940 JM Pro, would like to KISS my setup to have only one pattern of choke tubes and have it drilled/tapped for Mossberg pattern choke tubes. Are there hidden traps in this and does it change the desired barrel length? Or would it be best just to simply forego choke tubes? The full list of work that I'm going to ask for is as follows:
Let me know what is the best option for this SBS's barrel length. Best regards, Linkage to rebuild kits for recoil operated shotguns offered by Arts Gun Shop. |
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I've done similar, just longer. I cut one barrel back to the length I wanted but the rib didn't match so I cut the rib back to the next tower. For you, I'd do 12.75-13". I'm waiting on a stamp right now that I intend to thread for remchokes. It already has the forcing cone ream done but I haven't shot it yet. I was told the forcing cone ream will notably reduce recoil but I cannot confirm. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: I was told the forcing cone ream will notably reduce recoil but I cannot confirm. From my SASS days, the forcing cone ream doesn't cheat Sir Issac out of his due as the ejecta remains the same but spreads it out to reduce that 'jolt' of 12GA recoil. Thus, the perceived recoil is less. |
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Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Originally Posted By wganz: From my SASS days, the forcing cone ream doesn't cheat Sir Issac out of his due as the ejecta remains the same but spreads it out to reduce that 'jolt' of 12GA recoil. Thus, the perceived recoil is less. Much better explanation for sure. Same energy over a longer period of time. |
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You need to email Rose. I have emailed them multiple times with some of the dame questions about a Model 11. They always email me right back with the answers. About the chokes they will send you a list of minimum barrel thickness needed for different types of chokes. Then you can measure your barrel with a set of calipers and get an idea of if it will work out. But the barrels usually get wider and thicker the shorter you go so i would imagine you should be gtg. I am making sound more complicated than it is. I just emailed them about how to best mesure my barrel to tell them what leanth to cut. They said i can always just mark where i want it cut. Kind of the simplest answer. I am sure they could cut it at the rib, cut the barrel infront of the rib and remove the extra rib, or they could probably add a support under the section of rib that is unsupported. They have been very helpful with my stupid questions. Prices are pretty reasonable in my opinion. Also, i know everyone has different comfort levels. But if you only paid $99 it would not be a bad gun to learn to do some of the work yourself. Maybe fit the recoil pad and install the Arts kit yourself. Forgo the ejection port unless its a problem. At that point you are only shipping Rose the barrel which means your not dealing with shipping a firearm. I installed a Arts kit on my model 11. It was good quality and pretty straight forward. Overall i think you have a good plan. Just throwing some ideas out there. |
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I had my local gunsmith cut down and make a filler piece for the vent rib on my 870 Special Field. On both of my other 870 SBSs I just had them cut at the next vent base, leaving the barrel a bit longer than it could have been. With this one, I was looking for max short, he also cut about 1.5" out of the stock and ground a new pad to fit. Then I had Steve at RAS thread it for chokes, IMO its well worth doing chokes on a SBS, you can really get some great performance with them, and you're stuck with what you get without. I wouldn't hesitate to have Steve thread it for a common choke if it has the necessary thickness and he has the tooling for it. He cut my T/C Encore and rethreaded it for Remington chokes since that is what I have the most of. Attached File |
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This is the way that I did my 870 several years ago. I've been happy with the way it turned out. I think it is a hair over 12" It does have choke tubes. Attached File Attached File |
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