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Posted: 9/23/2009 8:00:07 AM EDT
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Disclaimer: Before I start this thread I must state that I AM NOT A RELOADER, I will be having it done by a friend of mine.
Is anyone reloading for self-defense? What grain bullets are you loading and to what "specs".....what velocity, etc? I ASSUME you can load to NATO pressures. In my thread below on Mk262 Mod1 ammo, it was stated that you could not safely reload ammo to this spec with off the shelf components........can you come close? Any advice you could give me would be great.....the guy that is reloading for me has been doing it for years and is a knowledgeable gunsmith, I'm sure he can accomodate me, but I wanted to get some advice here first. Forgive the FNG question. 
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I am often amazed that most re loaders I have talked to don't reload SD ammo.
Why not? If you are able to load ammunition that performs more accurately then factory ammo. Personally I have been able to accomplish this like most other re loaders. I'll admit that when I made some defensive ammo I used brand new brass and high end bullets and then very carefully worked up the load and settled on the numbers that worked best in my guns. Use a chronograph to get an idea of the overall ballistics of the load and then test the finished product for performance. Participants in any service rifle match you attend will overwhelmingly use reloaded ammunition to achieve the best results. We all know that shot placement is the most important factor in any use of guns. So why pay more for factory ammo to get the luxury of sacrificing accuracy? The feeling I get is that reloaded rounds cannot be "trusted" when it counts most. Again this is something I just don't understand. I have no control over factory ammunition, while having complete control of my reloads. Do you feel safer in a car you are driving or as a passenger? Personally I know the rounds I load for SD are gonna go bang every time, and they will be more accurate then anything I can buy, all at a fraction of the cost. That little rant being said... I loaded up some SD ammo for the AR using the ammo oracle as a guide 69 grn Match Grade HPBT over Win 748 CCI # 41 |
| I do not, but i am not opposed to it. I am pretty new to reloading and would like to get a few thousand more reloads under my belt first. I have had no issuses reloading, so i guess it's just my own insecurities. The only thing that I do know so far is to start low and work your way up to a max load, by the book. I had some near max loads that were starting to push primers out. |
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I am often amazed that most re loaders I have talked to don't reload SD ammo. Why not? I had read somewhere,maybe here, that it is for legal issues should you end up in court. Not sure I follow the reasoning or if it was a line of BS but anyway, there you go. |
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Have you read this?
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm#.223 If not, please do so. Also, read the referenced article by Molon. You can handload some of the stuff discussed using SAAMI MAP limits. As long as your terminal velocity of the same bullet closely meets or exceeds that of the commercial SD at the gelatin block, the effect will be the same. It may mean reducing your effective battle distance. But, that is usually not a problem for SD. I like to use the cannelured bullets because it gives a good place to apply a crimp, and it provides a weak place in the beam strength of the bullet when acted upon by terminal forces to assure fragmentation. |
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I had read somewhere,maybe here, that it is for legal issues should you end up in court. Not sure I follow the reasoning or if it was a line of BS but anyway, there you go. This is the most often given reason for not reloading SD ammo (I've heard it a bunch too)... yet no one has been able to point me at a single case where this was a factor in making a judgement call as to whether a shoot is a "good shoot" or not. If someone could point me to a factual case where this had an influence on the verdict in a SD situation, I'd sure like to see it. It is a topic of hot debate, to be sure. That said, my reloading / shooting buddy and I only shoot our own reloads, and that's what resides in my bedside 1911 at night. I haven't bought factory ammo (other than .22LR or shotgun shells) in over a year. |
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