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Posted: 2/10/2014 12:31:44 PM EDT
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I saw a german mauser at the LGS. It does not say what it is on the tag.
It is a long rifle and has a 44 on the reciever. I can get more info later. |
| We'll need much more info before we can identify it. If it truly is a German Mauser dated 1944, it sounds like it may be a K98k. But it could be any number of other things, including a non-German Mauser. Without photos, including the markings on the top of the receiver, we cannot narrow it down for you or tell you if it's been modified or sporterized. |
| Yeah, I tried to remember the detes but alas I forgot. What I can remember: a big "44" on the top of the front ring and a 3 letter code beginning with d and it was not sporterized, it had a sling and bayonet and it also had the nazi marks on the barrel and receiver. It was a rifle not a karbine. It was 500 bucks and I want to add something nazi to my collection. I'm sorry, I'll go back and write down the exact details. |
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Yeah, I tried to remember the detes but alas I forgot. What I can remember: a big "44" on the top of the front ring and a 3 letter code beginning with d and it was not sporterized, it had a sling and bayonet and it also had the nazi marks on the barrel and receiver. It was a rifle not a karbine. The Germans did not produce any Mauser long rifles in 1944, only Kar98ks. If the manufacturer's code started with a D, you're looking at a K98k produced at one of the Waffen-Werke Brünn factories in occupied Czechoslovakia, which used both "dou" and "dot" on their 1944 production K98ks. The "dou" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Bystrica, and the "dot" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Brno. If the date is only listed as "44", it's a "dou", as "dot" used the full four digit date of 1944. 
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The Germans did not produce any Mauser long rifles in 1944, only Kar98ks. If the manufacturer's code started with a D, you're looking at a K98k produced at one of the Waffen-Werke Brünn factories in occupied Czechoslovakia, which used both "dou" and "dot" on their 1944 production K98ks. The "dou" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Bystrica, and the "dot" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Brno. If the date is only listed as "44", it's a "dou", as "dot" used the full four digit date of 1944. http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/573/8701554/acfd8f4.jpg http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/729/10082985/acf5009.jpg Quoted:
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Yeah, I tried to remember the detes but alas I forgot. What I can remember: a big "44" on the top of the front ring and a 3 letter code beginning with d and it was not sporterized, it had a sling and bayonet and it also had the nazi marks on the barrel and receiver. It was a rifle not a karbine. The Germans did not produce any Mauser long rifles in 1944, only Kar98ks. If the manufacturer's code started with a D, you're looking at a K98k produced at one of the Waffen-Werke Brünn factories in occupied Czechoslovakia, which used both "dou" and "dot" on their 1944 production K98ks. The "dou" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Bystrica, and the "dot" K98ks were produced at the WWB factory in Brno. If the date is only listed as "44", it's a "dou", as "dot" used the full four digit date of 1944. http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/573/8701554/acfd8f4.jpg http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/729/10082985/acf5009.jpg YES! It said DOU 44. It had nazi marks though, so I assumed it had to be german and I thought it looked like a full length rifle. Certainly seemed longer than a mosin m44. OK, so we are getting somewhere now. Were these used by German Nazis? How much is fare for one with bayonet and sling? See that nazi mark in your photo? I remember the one I saw as haveing it on the left side of the receiver and barrel. Does that sound plausible? |
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They were produced by the Germans during WW2, for the German military. The Germans had occupied Czechoslovakia back in 1939.
A dou is a nice find. They were only produced for 4 years (1942-1945). And yes, they will generally have Nazi eagle firing proofs on the left side of the barrel and receiver, in addition to the military acceptance eagle (Waffenamt) on the top of the receiver. (But not all dou 44 rifles will have two firing proofs, since the factory discontinued stamping the firing proof and serial on the receiver partway through 1944.) Here's an example of a dou 44 with two firing proofs on the left side: 
As for value, that will depend on a number of different things. Is it in original condition, or has it been refinished? Is it a Russian Capture K98k? (Those will usually be refinished with a dark rebluing and red shellac on the stock, and have electropenciled serial numbers added to the parts.) Have the Nazi markings been altered, usually by peening out the swastikas with a punch? Do all the serial numbers on the rifle match? Is it in the original stock, or at least a correct stock? What's the overall condition of the rifle, including the metal and the wood? How's the bore? Does it have an import mark? Has it been altered or sporterized? Any parts missing? As you can see, it's tough to estimate value on a rifle without detailed photos. |
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