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Posted: 9/4/2016 9:12:12 AM EDT
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Dillon SD or 650 or Lee and why?
I really like the 5 holes, powder cop (since a visual check is the most time consuming now) and case feeder on the 650. Do not like the price or size/footprint, SD I really like the short stroke, small footprint, but do not like the lack of case feeder and weird dies. Lees worked, but I did not set them up, just pulled the handle. I can see this used for bulk pistol rounds. I have used the above, as well as Lee loadmaster and 1000. Enough that I want to buy my own progressive so 550 is out. I will probably continue to use a LCT and single stage for rifle ammo, since I do so many different calibers and loads (subsonic vs supersonic etc) in small batches. No LNL, friend had an issue with his, and I just want to focus on Dillon/lee and not Hornady or RCBS. Thoughts? thanks |
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I started on a Square Deal... when I got into shooting more high volume (GSSF and or USPSA match every other week, plus all the practice), I switched to a 650 and love it. The case feeder makes everything so much nicer.
If the cost is too much at first, skip the case feeder and other bells and whistles, adding them when you can. |
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There's a whole lot of capability/complexity difference between the SquareDeal B and the 650.
I'd go with the 650 for a number of reasons, not the least of which are the weird dies and no case feeder option. Another big reason is the limited calibers those weird dies are available in. And more stations means more flexibility - like with powder drop monitoring, for example. The footprint for the 650 is bigger, but it's not that hard to manage - it's similar to my Hornady LnL, which takes up about a third of my 4' bench width. Now for the extra capabilities: the 650 advances the cases automatically, handles just about every caliber (not the 50 BMG class rounds, but most everything else), and the case feeder is a HUGE efficiency improvement. If I were looking at the SDB, it would be for a limited number of pistol calibers. Probably only 9mm and .45 ACP. Those are easy to run with manual feed and manual advance, and the manual process helps you to monitor cases for powder drops (nothing just moves past you automatically). You'd be limited to seat and crimp in one station, but once you're set up, that's not a big deal. So to me, it's really two questions: what do you want to do (right now) with the press, and what are you comfortable spending. |
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I started on a Square Deal... when I got into shooting more high volume (GSSF and or USPSA match every other week, plus all the practice), I switched to a 650 and love it. The case feeder makes everything so much nicer. If the cost is too much at first, skip the case feeder and other bells and whistles, adding them when you can. ....And a bullet feeder 
The cost does not bother me so much as the huge size and the cost for little other use. If all I plan on is 9mm in bulk, better to use a SDB? |
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Don't recall anyone ever wanting a comparison of a Lee press and Dillon 650.... IMO, 650 needs a case feeder while many others (RCBS and Hornady included) don't. 650 just isn't ergonomic to be used without it. If you plan on getting case feeder, 650. The Lees I used work. They were a little Rube Goldberg like, and I hoped that all the little slidey things kept sliding, and all the little levers kept cycling as I was pulling it, but it worked. SDB has a better warranty and resale, if I ever get out of the hobby or add different calibers, etc. So that is a +1 for Dillon. Thanks for the tip on the case feeder. $220 in the cart. |
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The Lees I used work. They were a little Rube Goldberg like, and I hoped that all the little slidey things kept sliding, and all the little levers kept cycling as I was pulling it, but it worked. SDB has a better warranty and resale, if I ever get out of the hobby or add different calibers, etc. So that is a +1 for Dillon. Thanks for the tip on the case feeder. $220 in the cart. Quoted:
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Don't recall anyone ever wanting a comparison of a Lee press and Dillon 650.... IMO, 650 needs a case feeder while many others (RCBS and Hornady included) don't. 650 just isn't ergonomic to be used without it. If you plan on getting case feeder, 650. The Lees I used work. They were a little Rube Goldberg like, and I hoped that all the little slidey things kept sliding, and all the little levers kept cycling as I was pulling it, but it worked. SDB has a better warranty and resale, if I ever get out of the hobby or add different calibers, etc. So that is a +1 for Dillon. Thanks for the tip on the case feeder. $220 in the cart. Dont forget case feeder plates. The problem IMO with the 550 and 650 is the cases are fed on right. I dont like to remove right hand from handle. rcbs and Hornady are great presses. Case feeders are weakest link so if you dont want a case feeder (some dont), those are better options. 1050 has same issue but it comes with case feeder. Although 1050 feeds a little more center of press. |
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There's a whole lot of capability/complexity difference between the SquareDeal B and the 650. I'd go with the 650 for a number of reasons, not the least of which are the weird dies and no case feeder option. Another big reason is the limited calibers those weird dies are available in. And more stations means more flexibility - like with powder drop monitoring, for example. The footprint for the 650 is bigger, but it's not that hard to manage - it's similar to my Hornady LnL, which takes up about a third of my 4' bench width. Now for the extra capabilities: the 650 advances the cases automatically, handles just about every caliber (not the 50 BMG class rounds, but most everything else), and the case feeder is a HUGE efficiency improvement. If I were looking at the SDB, it would be for a limited number of pistol calibers. Probably only 9mm and .45 ACP. Those are easy to run with manual feed and manual advance, and the manual process helps you to monitor cases for powder drops (nothing just moves past you automatically). You'd be limited to seat and crimp in one station, but once you're set up, that's not a big deal. So to me, it's really two questions: what do you want to do (right now) with the press, and what are you comfortable spending. Okay, I thought the SDB was fully progressive, just have to feed brass and a bullet on each stroke, unlike the 550 that also requires you to advance the carrier. Also, can the SDB be adjusted to bell the mouths enough to use powder coated/lead bullets? That is about all I use in 9mm anymore. I have no problem getting the 650, but the question is, is the 650 overkill for bulk 9mm, and only bulk 9mm? |
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I have a SDB in 9mm and a 550 for 38, 44 and 45. I have a Lee Turret for rifle and oddball caibers. I don't need anything else. Thanks... How do you like the SDB vs the 550 for the pistol calibers? SDB. Is faster than the 550. I have the SDB set up for 9mm. The 550 is easier to change to other calibers |
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SBD will auto advance, but will not work with say 308 height calibers (pistol reloading only really).
The 550 is manual advance, has enough travel to load say 308's, but there is not case feeder system for it. 650 is auto advance, has the needed travel for 308, and does have a case feeder system for it. The 1050 is more of a commercial press, does what the 650 will do, plus has a built in swagger to de-crimp primer pockets as well. Hence because the swagger system in play, running the 1050 with a auto drive is not a problem. |
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Quoted: Thanks... How do you like the SDB vs the 550 for the pistol calibers? Quoted: Quoted: I have a SDB in 9mm and a 550 for 38, 44 and 45. I have a Lee Turret for rifle and oddball caibers. I don't need anything else. Thanks... How do you like the SDB vs the 550 for the pistol calibers? I have 3 SD's I use for 9mm, 357, and 45 ACP. I only use my 550 for rifle cartridges. I won't load pistol on a 550. To easy to double charge. (I know many do, but I made my choice for me) In the past I had a couple of Pro 1000's. Those are long gone. I would suggest the 650 for you OP. |
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I can see this used for bulk pistol rounds. That sentence can mean something different to everyone here. No experience with the SD, or Lee for that matter. I ruled the SD out because of the proprietary dies and lack of rifle caliber support (knowing that I'd probably do precision rifle rounds on a single stage or turret press). The xl650 w/casefeeder will shine at producing copious quantities of pistol ammo (or rifle if you change your mind later). It will offer plenty of room for grown weather you need a powder check die, or a bullet feeder (no your talking). Not a bad learning curve, or at least that has been my experience.... of course I was coming from a 550&1050. Don't believe the hype about needed a seperate primer system for each size, the conversion is simple and quick after it has been done a couple of times. Caliber conversion are similar, and get quicker with use. If you can swing the ching, sound like the xl650 is for you. ~g |
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Get the Dillon 650
LEE makes some neat things, but there progressive presses are junk The square deal takes proprietary dies, and will not load rifle. skip the powder cop and get the Dillon powder check system,...if the charge is too low, or too high, it sounds a buzzer. . |
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You do not need to feed each case individually on a 650 because it comes with the case feed tube/inserting mechanism. You can preload PVC pipe tubes and dump them in quickly, and all you need is enough tubes to hold 100 pieces of brass. Refill those when topping-off the primers.
It is faster with a case feeder, but certainly not needed, and still much faster than a 550. On a 550, the right hand feeds brass and cranks the handle, the left hand inserts bullets and indexes. On the 650 the right hand cranks and left hand inserts bullets. Everytime you eliminate a manual operation, you reduce the chances of an error and increase speed. A friend, Ray, bought a Lee Pro 1000 from a co-worker. I recommended against it because every time you have to stop loading and tinker, you introduce the possibility of a double charge. The seller called BS, and the transaction done. Guess what happend about 3 weeks ago? Ray said it sounded like a 44 magnum. Good thing it was a 45, and in a steel-framed gun. |
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I started on a Square Deal... when I got into shooting more high volume (GSSF and or USPSA match every other week, plus all the practice), I switched to a 650 and love it. The case feeder makes everything so much nicer. If the cost is too much at first, skip the case feeder and other bells and whistles, adding them when you can. ....And a bullet feeder
The cost does not bother me so much as the huge size and the cost for little other use. If all I plan on is 9mm in bulk, better to use a SDB? Anything in bulk I would say the case feeder is important. I considered keeping the Square Deal after buying my 650 for loading large primer calibers and using the 650 for small. As soon as I started using the 650, I knew I was done with the Square Deal. I will say I could see myself using one if I got a killer deal, for something like 44 mag, where I'm not going through tens of thousands of them a year like I do 9mm. SDB: Cycle ram right hand grabs a case and puts it in station one, while left hand grabs a bullet and puts it on the case in station three. repeat Time to load 100rds: 15 minutes 650: Cycle ram right hand never leaves the handle while left hand places bullet on station three. repeat Time to load 100rds: 7 minutes |
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You do not need to feed each case individually on a 650 because it comes with the case feed tube/inserting mechanism. You can preload PVC pipe tubes and dump them in quickly, and all you need is enough tubes to hold 100 pieces of brass. Refill those when topping-off the primers. It is faster with a case feeder, but certainly not needed, and still much faster than a 550. On a 550, the right hand feeds brass and cranks the handle, the left hand inserts bullets and indexes. On the 650 the right hand cranks and left hand inserts bullets. Everytime you eliminate a manual operation, you reduce the chances of an error and increase speed. A friend, Ray, bought a Lee Pro 1000 from a co-worker. I recommended against it because every time you have to stop loading and tinker, you introduce the possibility of a double charge. The seller called BS, and the transaction done. Guess what happend about 3 weeks ago? Ray said it sounded like a 44 magnum. Good thing it was a 45, and in a steel-framed gun. Did not know this, thanks! |
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Well it looks like the 650 is turning out to be the winner here.
I read and appreciate all the comments and wisdom posted. I am also glad this did not turn into a Lee bash thread, since I have seen them work with no issues. Off to research bullet feeders. Thanks again! |
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Good choice!
The 650 will accomodate a decap die and RT-1500 trimmer. It is nice to process rifle brass efficiently. Slight derail- I do honestly believe that any press that requires constant "tinkering" can be dangerous, and Lee just happens to be #1 on that list. Double charges are no joke, and my friend Ray is lucky he wasn't loading 40 S&W when IT happened. Even though I warned him, I would have felt bad if he would have been injured. I rarely have to stop and correct problems on my progressives. When I do have a problem, I remove all brass from the press, dump any powder out of the cases, and throw the brass into a cigar box. When I finish reloading the main batch, I sort then reprocess the take-outs as needed. Also, by processing brass seperately from loading most problems manifest themselves in the processing stage- the loading stage is almost boringly uneventful. |
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My first press was a Dillon SDB. I reloaded approximately 12-15K rounds in mostly 9mm, a few thousand .38 spl., and about a thousand .45ACP
For the most part it worked very well. .38 and .45 were flawless. 9mm had moments. When I say "moments" I'm referring to the shell plate getting out of adjustment and causing the primers coming up through the recess in the shellholder to catch, SNAP, and fly off across the room or get inserted sideways. Adjusting the shellplate retard/advance screw because a regular occurrence when reloading nines. It wasn't really a bad press but in retrospect I wish I'd purchased a "real" dillon (either a 550 or 650). They were still relatively affordable back in '97. Caliber changes were a minor PITA esp. if changing from large caliber to smaller caliber or vise-versa which required also changing the charge bar. And since the SDB uses proprietary dies you cannot use regular dies...or load rifle calibers. So if it's Dillon you want, for for the 550/650. they're much more versatile. |
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I have owned a lot of Dillons over the years. Today I am down to 2. A 1050 for dedicated 9mm and a 550 for multiple calibers.
The square deal is a great little press that works very well. The only draw back I encountered was a small window to work inside of when seating the bullet. They make a great dedicated caliber progressive for anyone. The 550 is a great machine that is easy to swap calibers on. Manual advance was never a concern for me. you can add a case feeder. I have loaded on a 650 and they are great machines. But if you are going to spend that much, save a little more, have a garage sale, etc and look very hard at the 1050. Priming on the down stroke and primer swage are two features that are very much worth having. Skip the Lee. All I will say is resale prices tell a better story than one guys experience. Used quality presses are a better value than new problematic ones. I dont know anyone loading 500-1000 rounds a month still using a Lee a few years after they got it. |
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My first press was a Dillon SDB. I reloaded approximately 12-15K rounds in mostly 9mm, a few thousand .38 spl., and about a thousand .45ACP For the most part it worked very well. .38 and .45 were flawless. 9mm had moments. When I say "moments" I'm referring to the shell plate getting out of adjustment and causing the primers coming up through the recess in the shellholder to catch, SNAP, and fly off across the room or get inserted sideways. Adjusting the shellplate retard/advance screw because a regular occurrence when reloading nines. It wasn't really a bad press but in retrospect I wish I'd purchased a "real" dillon (either a 550 or 650). They were still relatively affordable back in '97. Caliber changes were a minor PITA esp. if changing from large caliber to smaller caliber or vise-versa which required also changing the charge bar. And since the SDB uses proprietary dies you cannot use regular dies...or load rifle calibers. So if it's Dillon you want, for for the 550/650. they're much more versatile. This was one of the biggest factors in my decision. I hate proprietary anything 
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I have owned a lot of Dillons over the years. Today I am down to 2. A 1050 for dedicated 9mm and a 550 for multiple calibers. The square deal is a great little press that works very well. The only draw back I encountered was a small window to work inside of when seating the bullet. They make a great dedicated caliber progressive for anyone. The 550 is a great machine that is easy to swap calibers on. Manual advance was never a concern for me. you can add a case feeder. I have loaded on a 650 and they are great machines. But if you are going to spend that much, save a little more, have a garage sale, etc and look very hard at the 1050. Priming on the down stroke and primer swage are two features that are very much worth having. Skip the Lee. All I will say is resale prices tell a better story than one guys experience. Used quality presses are a better value than new problematic ones. I dont know anyone loading 500-1000 rounds a month still using a Lee a few years after they got it. Well... I am one of the few out there that actually do not mind the RCBS press mounted swager. I can swage primer pockets as fast as I can feed the press. I also have a power rack in my bedroom too, so maybe I am a little rough?  And 9mm NATO does not come up very often in my brass supply. Wish the same could be said for "pierce" brass 
The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce 
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Well... I am one of the few out there that actually do not mind the RCBS press mounted swager. I can swage primer pockets as fast as I can feed the press. I also have a power rack in my bedroom too, so maybe I am a little rough? And 9mm NATO does not come up very often in my brass supply. Wish the same could be said for "pierce" brass
The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce Quoted:
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I have owned a lot of Dillons over the years. Today I am down to 2. A 1050 for dedicated 9mm and a 550 for multiple calibers. The square deal is a great little press that works very well. The only draw back I encountered was a small window to work inside of when seating the bullet. They make a great dedicated caliber progressive for anyone. The 550 is a great machine that is easy to swap calibers on. Manual advance was never a concern for me. you can add a case feeder. I have loaded on a 650 and they are great machines. But if you are going to spend that much, save a little more, have a garage sale, etc and look very hard at the 1050. Priming on the down stroke and primer swage are two features that are very much worth having. Skip the Lee. All I will say is resale prices tell a better story than one guys experience. Used quality presses are a better value than new problematic ones. I dont know anyone loading 500-1000 rounds a month still using a Lee a few years after they got it. Well... I am one of the few out there that actually do not mind the RCBS press mounted swager. I can swage primer pockets as fast as I can feed the press. I also have a power rack in my bedroom too, so maybe I am a little rough? And 9mm NATO does not come up very often in my brass supply. Wish the same could be said for "pierce" brass
The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce Dillon won't "take care of you" with a 1050 that is past the 1 year warranty in my experience so I wouldn't plan on them doing it for you either. I sold mine and kept my 550B as it does all I need it to |
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The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce Comparing apples to oranges, the s1050 is better than an xl650 in almost every way (except cost)... even without a lifetime warranty. The 650 has a lot of plastic parts, the 1050 does not.... you can't give commercial reloaders a lifetime warranty, that would bankrupt any company. ~g |
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Comparing apples to oranges, the s1050 is better than an xl650 in almost every way (except cost)... even without a lifetime warranty. The 650 has a lot of plastic parts, the 1050 does not.... you can't give commercial reloaders a lifetime warranty, that would bankrupt any company. ~g Quoted:
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The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce Comparing apples to oranges, the s1050 is better than an xl650 in almost every way (except cost)... even without a lifetime warranty. The 650 has a lot of plastic parts, the 1050 does not.... you can't give commercial reloaders a lifetime warranty, that would bankrupt any company. ~g I do not think I would ever reload enough volume to wear out a Dillon, however this is a fair statement and I agree with what you are saying. |
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Comparing apples to oranges, the s1050 is better than an xl650 in almost every way (except cost)... even without a lifetime warranty. The 650 has a lot of plastic parts, the 1050 does not.... you can't give commercial reloaders a lifetime warranty, that would bankrupt any company. ~g Quoted:
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The 1050 is awesome, but the warranty is lacking compared to the 650. Not saying that Dillon would not take care of me, but the lifetime warranty is awesome sauce Comparing apples to oranges, the s1050 is better than an xl650 in almost every way (except cost)... even without a lifetime warranty. The 650 has a lot of plastic parts, the 1050 does not.... you can't give commercial reloaders a lifetime warranty, that would bankrupt any company. ~g yep , the warranty isn't worth the trade off |
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Okay, I thought the SDB was fully progressive, just have to feed brass and a bullet on each stroke, unlike the 550 that also requires you to advance the carrier. Also, can the SDB be adjusted to bell the mouths enough to use powder coated/lead bullets? That is about all I use in 9mm anymore. I have no problem getting the 650, but the question is, is the 650 overkill for bulk 9mm, and only bulk 9mm? Quoted:
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If I were looking at the SDB, it would be for a limited number of pistol calibers. Probably only 9mm and .45 ACP. Those are easy to run with manual feed and manual advance, and the manual process helps you to monitor cases for powder drops (nothing just moves past you automatically). Okay, I thought the SDB was fully progressive, just have to feed brass and a bullet on each stroke, unlike the 550 that also requires you to advance the carrier. Also, can the SDB be adjusted to bell the mouths enough to use powder coated/lead bullets? That is about all I use in 9mm anymore. I have no problem getting the 650, but the question is, is the 650 overkill for bulk 9mm, and only bulk 9mm? I was wrong saying the SDB has manual advance - I was confusing it with the 550. On the other hand, the "compactness" of the SDB that Dillon is very happy about mentioning also means that the 4 station press doesn't give you a lot of room to get your mitts in there and manipulate things like a crooked case. I don't know about whether you can adjust the bell setting on the SDB dies. I do not think a 650 is overkill for loading bulk pistol ammunition, but it may be overly expensive if you're just going to load a single caliber with it. |
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I was wrong saying the SDB has manual advance - I was confusing it with the 550. On the other hand, the "compactness" of the SDB that Dillon is very happy about mentioning also means that the 4 station press doesn't give you a lot of room to get your mitts in there and manipulate things like a crooked case. I don't know about whether you can adjust the bell setting on the SDB dies. I do not think a 650 is overkill for loading bulk pistol ammunition, but it may be overly expensive if you're just going to load a single caliber with it. Quoted:
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If I were looking at the SDB, it would be for a limited number of pistol calibers. Probably only 9mm and .45 ACP. Those are easy to run with manual feed and manual advance, and the manual process helps you to monitor cases for powder drops (nothing just moves past you automatically). Okay, I thought the SDB was fully progressive, just have to feed brass and a bullet on each stroke, unlike the 550 that also requires you to advance the carrier. Also, can the SDB be adjusted to bell the mouths enough to use powder coated/lead bullets? That is about all I use in 9mm anymore. I have no problem getting the 650, but the question is, is the 650 overkill for bulk 9mm, and only bulk 9mm? I was wrong saying the SDB has manual advance - I was confusing it with the 550. On the other hand, the "compactness" of the SDB that Dillon is very happy about mentioning also means that the 4 station press doesn't give you a lot of room to get your mitts in there and manipulate things like a crooked case. I don't know about whether you can adjust the bell setting on the SDB dies. I do not think a 650 is overkill for loading bulk pistol ammunition, but it may be overly expensive if you're just going to load a single caliber with it. You can, it's the same way as the the larger presses, with the height of the powder die. |
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Dillon won't "take care of you" with a 1050 that is past the 1 year warranty in my experience so I wouldn't plan on them doing it for you either. I sold mine and kept my 550B as it does all I need it to Did something major foul up on your machine? They oopsed when assembling it and you couldn't get the carrier cap off. I tried every method they suggested and no go. They said they'd fix it but I got to pay shipping both ways and they were smart a$$es when they sent my crate back that I built with the press by throwing in a couple of loose Advil to show their displeasure with the probably overbuilt crate. I like my 550B but that experience soured me on them as a company to the point that I cancelled my plans to get a 650. |
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If I were looking at the SDB, it would be for a limited number of pistol calibers. Probably only 9mm and .45 ACP. Those are easy to run with manual feed and manual advance, and the manual process helps you to monitor cases for powder drops (nothing just moves past you automatically). Okay, I thought the SDB was fully progressive, just have to feed brass and a bullet on each stroke, unlike the 550 that also requires you to advance the carrier. Also, can the SDB be adjusted to bell the mouths enough to use powder coated/lead bullets? That is about all I use in 9mm anymore. I have no problem getting the 650, but the question is, is the 650 overkill for bulk 9mm, and only bulk 9mm? I was wrong saying the SDB has manual advance - I was confusing it with the 550. On the other hand, the "compactness" of the SDB that Dillon is very happy about mentioning also means that the 4 station press doesn't give you a lot of room to get your mitts in there and manipulate things like a crooked case. I don't know about whether you can adjust the bell setting on the SDB dies. I do not think a 650 is overkill for loading bulk pistol ammunition, but it may be overly expensive if you're just going to load a single caliber with it. You can, it's the same way as the the larger presses, with the height of the powder die. Awesome, thanks 
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They oopsed when assembling it and you couldn't get the carrier cap off. I tried every method they suggested and no go. They said they'd fix it but I got to pay shipping both ways and they were smart a$$es when they sent my crate back that I built with the press by throwing in a couple of loose Advil to show their displeasure with the probably overbuilt crate. I like my 550B but that experience soured me on them as a company to the point that I cancelled my plans to get a 650. Quoted:
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Dillon won't "take care of you" with a 1050 that is past the 1 year warranty in my experience so I wouldn't plan on them doing it for you either. I sold mine and kept my 550B as it does all I need it to Did something major foul up on your machine? They oopsed when assembling it and you couldn't get the carrier cap off. I tried every method they suggested and no go. They said they'd fix it but I got to pay shipping both ways and they were smart a$$es when they sent my crate back that I built with the press by throwing in a couple of loose Advil to show their displeasure with the probably overbuilt crate. I like my 550B but that experience soured me on them as a company to the point that I cancelled my plans to get a 650. Whoa- sorry to hear that. Not cool. |
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They oopsed when assembling it and you couldn't get the carrier cap off. I tried every method they suggested and no go. They said they'd fix it but I got to pay shipping both ways and they were smart a$$es when they sent my crate back that I built with the press by throwing in a couple of loose Advil to show their displeasure with the probably overbuilt crate. I like my 550B but that experience soured me on them as a company to the point that I cancelled my plans to get a 650. Quoted:
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Dillon won't "take care of you" with a 1050 that is past the 1 year warranty in my experience so I wouldn't plan on them doing it for you either. I sold mine and kept my 550B as it does all I need it to Did something major foul up on your machine? They oopsed when assembling it and you couldn't get the carrier cap off. I tried every method they suggested and no go. They said they'd fix it but I got to pay shipping both ways and they were smart a$$es when they sent my crate back that I built with the press by throwing in a couple of loose Advil to show their displeasure with the probably overbuilt crate. I like my 550B but that experience soured me on them as a company to the point that I cancelled my plans to get a 650. Not doubting you, but this would appear to be the exception rather than the norm. Can't say I've had many interactions with Dillon (guess that is a good thing), but the ones I've had were pretty good. On several occasions they sent me 1050 parts free of charge, this was outside of the 1 year warranty. ~g |
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