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Link Posted: 3/28/2020 11:14:47 PM EDT
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Prob. $2800 - $3000
VP
Link Posted: 3/29/2020 11:44:17 AM EDT
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Gross. Hope not.
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 12:09:07 AM EDT
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Sig is taking so long to release the spear that the damn Magpul Massoud came out !

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Link Posted: 3/31/2020 12:43:37 AM EDT
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Been keeping an eye on the Massoud for years. Fondled it at Shot. Exciting.
Doesn’t look like it’s “out” out. Not seeing it on on their page. Do you have pricing info?
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 9:25:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mr_Toyz:
Been keeping an eye on the Massoud for years. Fondled it at Shot. Exciting.
Doesn’t look like it’s “out” out. Not seeing it on on their page. Do you have pricing info?
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I don’t have pricing, just have this one for testing.
So far it’s been an awesome gun.
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 11:35:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:


I don't have pricing, just have this one for testing.
So far it's been an awesome gun.
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:
Originally Posted By Mr_Toyz:
Been keeping an eye on the Massoud for years. Fondled it at Shot. Exciting.
Doesn't look like it's "out" out. Not seeing it on on their page. Do you have pricing info?


I don't have pricing, just have this one for testing.
So far it's been an awesome gun.
KRG Fox 42?
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 11:37:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fettesbrotde:
KRG Fox 42?
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:
Originally Posted By Mr_Toyz:
Been keeping an eye on the Massoud for years. Fondled it at Shot. Exciting.
Doesn't look like it's "out" out. Not seeing it on on their page. Do you have pricing info?


I don't have pricing, just have this one for testing.
So far it's been an awesome gun.
KRG Fox 42?


Yes sir!
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 11:47:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:


Yes sir!
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:
Originally Posted By Mr_Toyz:
Been keeping an eye on the Massoud for years. Fondled it at Shot. Exciting.
Doesn't look like it's "out" out. Not seeing it on on their page. Do you have pricing info?


I don't have pricing, just have this one for testing.
So far it's been an awesome gun.
KRG Fox 42?


Yes sir!
Nice!

As an ACR owner I've been waiting a while for that to come out too.

I started to migrate to the MCX since ACR stuffed dried up, then hit a wall. I hope Sig beats KRG to the market on the Spear... but who knows.
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 12:29:05 PM EDT
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Neuigkeiten von SIG - MCX SPEAR | MG 6.8 | MG338


I haven't seen this one yet, but I speak only two languages:  Murican and profanity, so I can't tell if there's any important info hiding in it.  First segment is all about the Spear.
Link Posted: 3/31/2020 2:18:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nizo_mizer:
Prob. $2800 - $3000
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In terms of where it could compete, closest competition would be the LMT MWS. They are $3200 MSRP.

Link Posted: 4/4/2020 2:52:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elucidate:
In terms of where it could compete, closest competition would be the LMT MWS. They are $3200 MSRP.

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Originally Posted By nizo_mizer:
Prob. $2800 - $3000
In terms of where it could compete, closest competition would be the LMT MWS. They are $3200 MSRP.



I don't know about a MSRP of $3200, but the LMT MLK MWS has a MSRP of $2799 and a street price of in the low to mid $2k range.




Link Posted: 4/12/2020 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/13/2020 4:21:24 PM EDT
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So when are we gonna see the version of the MCX-Spear that has a recoiling barrel assembly like the LMG detailed in this patent?

Link Posted: 4/14/2020 11:04:14 AM EDT
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I think I said this before, but that recoiling-barrel option would be awesome for instances like when SOFA agreements prohibit belt-feds.

Or, if I'm leaving the wire on a patrol, but we're carrying two or three of those w/ multiple 50rd drums in our packs instead of rifles, and some terrorist asshole reports a "lightly armed squad" headed out.
Link Posted: 4/14/2020 6:45:52 PM EDT
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LMFAO
Link Posted: 4/15/2020 2:10:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
I want this to work so bad...but in the end Sig will royally fuck it up and I’ll be sending yet another one of their trashy products back for trashy customer service. I’m 0/3 working Sig’s out of the box. Maybe 4th time will be a charm.
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Sig is one of the few innovators in the firearms community.  Yes, sometimes their products are not 100% reliable right off the bat, but that is a consequence of having a new design.  I am OK with rolling the dice on a new, forward thinking weapon, as long as Sig can help me out if it doesn't work within reasonable expectations of reliability.
Link Posted: 4/15/2020 6:51:05 PM EDT
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I'd be in for one depending on how they get spec'd and priced.
Link Posted: 4/15/2020 8:07:20 PM EDT
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I'd be in for one depending on how they get spec'd and priced.
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I'd be in for one depending on how they get spec'd and priced.
That's kinda what we're all waiting for.

Tomorrow would be NRAAM, which would have been our next chance to see it. But, thanks to beer flu, it was cancelled. Maybe SHOT 2021 will have more info.
Link Posted: 4/15/2020 8:56:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAG2955:
That's kinda what we're all waiting for.

Tomorrow would be NRAAM, which would have been our next chance to see it. But, thanks to beer flu, it was cancelled. Maybe SHOT 2021 will have more info.
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I'd be in for one depending on how they get spec'd and priced.
That's kinda what we're all waiting for.

Tomorrow would be NRAAM, which would have been our next chance to see it. But, thanks to beer flu, it was cancelled. Maybe SHOT 2021 will have more info.


I am told beer flu might kill me before Shot Show 2021. So maybe @coregon could give us a little hint before we all die and don't get a chance to buy a MCX Spear.
Link Posted: 4/15/2020 10:04:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mban2:


Sig is one of the few innovators in the firearms community.  Yes, sometimes their products are not 100% reliable right off the bat, but that is a consequence of having a new design.  I am OK with rolling the dice on a new, forward thinking weapon, as long as Sig can help me out if it doesn't work within reasonable expectations of reliability.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
I want this to work so bad...but in the end Sig will royally fuck it up and I’ll be sending yet another one of their trashy products back for trashy customer service. I’m 0/3 working Sig’s out of the box. Maybe 4th time will be a charm.


Sig is one of the few innovators in the firearms community.  Yes, sometimes their products are not 100% reliable right off the bat, but that is a consequence of having a new design.  I am OK with rolling the dice on a new, forward thinking weapon, as long as Sig can help me out if it doesn't work within reasonable expectations of reliability.


I don't se how they could f this up, hasn't it been through mil trials and 3-4 years of tweaks?
Link Posted: 4/16/2020 9:37:04 AM EDT
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By not releasing prices while TrumpBux and tax returns are in people's hands?

Link Posted: 4/26/2020 5:53:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2020 1:49:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2020 2:09:40 PM EDT
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Hopefully the true street reward ends up being closer to $2500.
Link Posted: 4/29/2020 10:14:26 AM EDT
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I don't think there's any way this will end up at $ 2,500.00 if the tiny Rattler's street price is $ 2,299.00 all over the internet right now.  The 716 is going for about $2,700.00.  I'd say this gun is going to be $ 3,000.00 to 3,250.00
Link Posted: 4/29/2020 10:29:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BLKY:
I don't think there's any way this will end up at $ 2,500.00 if the tiny Rattler's street price is $ 2,299.00 all over the internet right now.  The 716 is going for about $2,700.00.  I'd say this gun is going to be $ 3,000.00 to 3,250.00
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Sig Rattler street price is high $1800s to $1900s depending who your dealer is.

The 716 Gen 2 is $1700s to $1800s depending on who your dealer is.





Link Posted: 4/29/2020 10:46:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:


Sig Rattler street price is high $1800s to $1900s depending who your dealer is.

The 716 Gen 2 is $1700s to $1800s depending on who your dealer is.

https://i.ibb.co/kBy1yNh/Screenshot-20200429-102702-01.jpg

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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Originally Posted By BLKY:
I don't think there's any way this will end up at $ 2,500.00 if the tiny Rattler's street price is $ 2,299.00 all over the internet right now.  The 716 is going for about $2,700.00.  I'd say this gun is going to be $ 3,000.00 to 3,250.00


Sig Rattler street price is high $1800s to $1900s depending who your dealer is.

The 716 Gen 2 is $1700s to $1800s depending on who your dealer is.

https://i.ibb.co/kBy1yNh/Screenshot-20200429-102702-01.jpg

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The 716 you posted is a discontinued SKU, so pricing will fluctuate.  The DMR is still active and MAP is $2749

The Rattler you posted.....all i'll say is whoever posted that price is mistaken.  That's not a realistic price and I would highly suggest anyone looking for a Rattler (or anyone looking for a deal) go and buy all of his inventory right now.  I dont think he has any inventory, though - which makes this price irrelevant, IMO.

ETA:  TSS doesnt even have any MCX's listed on his website currently - so, I think that screen grab is more than outdated.  Do you have to login to see inventory on some items?
Link Posted: 4/29/2020 11:32:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


The 716 you posted is a discontinued SKU, so pricing will fluctuate.  The DMR is still active and MAP is $2749

The Rattler you posted.....all i'll say is whoever posted that price is mistaken.  That's not a realistic price and I would highly suggest anyone looking for a Rattler (or anyone looking for a deal) go and buy all of his inventory right now.  I dont think he has any inventory, though - which makes this price irrelevant, IMO.

ETA:  TSS doesnt even have any MCX's listed on his website currently - so, I think that screen grab is more than outdated.  Do you have to login to see inventory on some items?
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Originally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Originally Posted By BLKY:
I don't think there's any way this will end up at $ 2,500.00 if the tiny Rattler's street price is $ 2,299.00 all over the internet right now.  The 716 is going for about $2,700.00.  I'd say this gun is going to be $ 3,000.00 to 3,250.00


Sig Rattler street price is high $1800s to $1900s depending who your dealer is.

The 716 Gen 2 is $1700s to $1800s depending on who your dealer is.

https://i.ibb.co/kBy1yNh/Screenshot-20200429-102702-01.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/yBDQ5qC/Screenshot-20200429-102424-01.jpg



The 716 you posted is a discontinued SKU, so pricing will fluctuate.  The DMR is still active and MAP is $2749

The Rattler you posted.....all i'll say is whoever posted that price is mistaken.  That's not a realistic price and I would highly suggest anyone looking for a Rattler (or anyone looking for a deal) go and buy all of his inventory right now.  I dont think he has any inventory, though - which makes this price irrelevant, IMO.

ETA:  TSS doesnt even have any MCX's listed on his website currently - so, I think that screen grab is more than outdated.  Do you have to login to see inventory on some items?


MAP for the 716 Gen 2 DMR might be $2749, but the street price is $2200-2300. I am looking at a dealer that has it for under $2200.

So again, street price can be significantly less than MSRP or MAP depending where the Spear ends up. Street price of $2500-2700 for a Spear makes sense if the 716 Gen 2 DMR is in the $2200-2300 range with a MAP of $2749. Give the Spear a MSRP/MAP of $3000-3100 and a street price of $2500-2700.

Link Posted: 4/29/2020 12:10:14 PM EDT
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Off topic, but since the 716 came up...

The 716 Tread seems like an amazing value for a DI AR10.

Labradar just showed up for some velocity testing. Review will be up shortly.

Link Posted: 4/29/2020 12:10:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:


MAP for the 716 Gen 2 DMR might be $2749, but the street price is $2200-2300. I am looking at a dealer that has it for under $2200.

So again, street price can be significantly less than MSRP or MAP depending where the Spear ends up. Street price of $2500-2700 for a Spear makes sense if the 716 Gen 2 DMR is in the $2200-2300 range with a MAP of $2749. Give the Spear a MSRP/MAP of $3000-3100 and a street price of $2500-2700.

https://i.ibb.co/zr70pLN/Screenshot-20200429-112541-01.jpg
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Originally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Originally Posted By BLKY:
I don't think there's any way this will end up at $ 2,500.00 if the tiny Rattler's street price is $ 2,299.00 all over the internet right now.  The 716 is going for about $2,700.00.  I'd say this gun is going to be $ 3,000.00 to 3,250.00


Sig Rattler street price is high $1800s to $1900s depending who your dealer is.

The 716 Gen 2 is $1700s to $1800s depending on who your dealer is.

https://i.ibb.co/kBy1yNh/Screenshot-20200429-102702-01.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/yBDQ5qC/Screenshot-20200429-102424-01.jpg



The 716 you posted is a discontinued SKU, so pricing will fluctuate.  The DMR is still active and MAP is $2749

The Rattler you posted.....all i'll say is whoever posted that price is mistaken.  That's not a realistic price and I would highly suggest anyone looking for a Rattler (or anyone looking for a deal) go and buy all of his inventory right now.  I dont think he has any inventory, though - which makes this price irrelevant, IMO.

ETA:  TSS doesnt even have any MCX's listed on his website currently - so, I think that screen grab is more than outdated.  Do you have to login to see inventory on some items?


MAP for the 716 Gen 2 DMR might be $2749, but the street price is $2200-2300. I am looking at a dealer that has it for under $2200.

So again, street price can be significantly less than MSRP or MAP depending where the Spear ends up. Street price of $2500-2700 for a Spear makes sense if the 716 Gen 2 DMR is in the $2200-2300 range with a MAP of $2749. Give the Spear a MSRP/MAP of $3000-3100 and a street price of $2500-2700.

https://i.ibb.co/zr70pLN/Screenshot-20200429-112541-01.jpg


I wasn't clear on what I was referencing.  6.5CM DMR is the only active 716 (besides the 716 Tread, which is a totally different config/situation).  

So, the DMR you referenced is a discontinued SKU - which will, obviously, affect "street price".  Our MAP policy is very strict and anyone violating that risks losing their dealer status - discontinued items have MAP removed.    

Street price can definitely be less than MSRP (by design), but, technically, not less than MAP.  Now, if you have a relationship with a dealer and you get less than MAP, that's understandable.  However, "advertised" pricing, will rarely been seen below MAP.  

I'm not trying to measure dicks with you, just trying to set a reasonable expectation for others watching this thread on what they can expect to pay for an active, in-line product.
Link Posted: 4/30/2020 11:03:47 PM EDT
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I've seen a new 716 pistol around the $1800 range in LGS this week.  I figure add a $K for the Spear if they become readily available.
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So we're at almost 5 years since we first saw the MCX-MR.

Recoil Magazine May 2015
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So we're at almost 5 years since we first saw the MCX-MR. 

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Longer than that - this was on the line for Range Day at SHOT 2015...

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And in one of the meeting rooms during SHOT of 2015...

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Link Posted: 5/3/2020 8:04:57 PM EDT
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Longer than that - this was on the line for Range Day at SHOT 2015...

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And this was in one of the meeting rooms during SHOT of 2015...

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Originally Posted By JAG2955:
So we're at almost 5 years since we first saw the MCX-MR. 

Recoil Magazine May 2015


Longer than that - this was on the line for Range Day at SHOT 2015...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/CC5DC4A8-AD75-4DF4-B4C5-2D21EEF3054D_jpe-1399689.JPG

And this was in one of the meeting rooms during SHOT of 2015...

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You cheeky bastard!
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 11:29:55 PM EDT
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Pfffff. You guys aren't going to be able to sell that Keymod version now. Let me take it off your hands.
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Longer than that - this was on the line for Range Day at SHOT 2015...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/CC5DC4A8-AD75-4DF4-B4C5-2D21EEF3054D_jpe-1399689.JPG

And in one of the meeting rooms during SHOT of 2015...

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And what is taking so long?
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Originally Posted By coregon:

I wasn't clear on what I was referencing.  6.5CM DMR is the only active 716 (besides the 716 Tread, which is a totally different config/situation).  

So, the DMR you referenced is a discontinued SKU - which will, obviously, affect "street price".  Our MAP policy is very strict and anyone violating that risks losing their dealer status - discontinued items have MAP removed.    

Street price can definitely be less than MSRP (by design), but, technically, not less than MAP.  Now, if you have a relationship with a dealer and you get less than MAP, that's understandable.  However, "advertised" pricing, will rarely been seen below MAP.  

I'm not trying to measure dicks with you, just trying to set a reasonable expectation for others watching this thread on what they can expect to pay for an active, in-line product.
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I appreciate that. I was just pointing out to other members that regardless of what MSRP/MAP is listed at, you can find Sig products for less than that if you know where to look and where to shop. I just went through that whole ordeal recently when ordering a MPX K and a Virtus. Just that when/if a MCX Spear is released, those willing to wait for the initial demand to die down could get one for less than the MSRP/MAP.


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I have money set aside for a Tacops or for a good portion of the Spear. Hope I don't have to hold out for another 5 years.
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Longer than that - this was on the line for Range Day at SHOT 2015...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/CC5DC4A8-AD75-4DF4-B4C5-2D21EEF3054D_jpe-1399689.JPG

And in one of the meeting rooms during SHOT of 2015...

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God Sig’s tanodizing is gorgeous.
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The whole rifle is pure sex.

I wonder where that prototype is.
Link Posted: 5/11/2020 10:21:42 PM EDT
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Bump for more info.


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Bump for more info.

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Link Posted: 5/20/2020 12:04:58 PM EDT
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Am I the only one that gets excited when they see an email from Sig, and then I'm like "oh good, hats are on clearance."

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Am I the only one that gets excited when they see an email from Sig, and then I'm like "oh good, hats are on clearance."

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You are not alone, my friend.
Link Posted: 5/25/2020 5:48:39 PM EDT
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Anything at all about it to add, any nerdy little fun fact, quirky detail, anything? dying ova heah.
Link Posted: 5/25/2020 9:00:36 PM EDT
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@coregon, I have money set aside for either a MCX Tacops or a MCX Spear. Which one will I have an easier and quicker time in getting?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:23:44 AM EDT
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He's been terribly silent about the whole thing, but he said this in another thread:

SPEAR is still tracking.  It's a progressive release, starting with some "unveilings" at some MIL/GOV type events that have been pushed back some, due to the CV19 stuff, but it's right around the corner.
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@coregon, I have money set aside for either a MCX Tacops or a MCX Spear. Which one will I have an easier and quicker time in getting?
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Bird in your bush is worth two hand jobs...or something like that.  

Buy the TACOPS.  The spear is coming, but I wouldn't let that interfere with me getting a TACOPS, especially since some are available right now.  TACOPS is a hard value to beat in the MCX family right now and you dont want to miss that.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:53:01 PM EDT
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That sounds like December to me.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 7:28:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAG2955:
That sounds like December to me.
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The line starts behind me.

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:58:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JAG2955:
That sounds like December to me.
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At least it isn't 2021.
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