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Originally Posted By bigsapper:
I'm looking for the pouch dimensions. I need to know if certain items I want to store in it will fit. what are you trying to put in it? I've got an h bandage, a 6" izzie, a 4" izzie, quikclot gauze, compressed gauze, bolin, 14ga catheter, duct tape, a gi triangular bandage and a few other things in it. |
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A blood glucose meter with pricker; a cylindrical hard case that holds a loaded syringe (about 6.5"); A tube of glucose tablets; a bottle of insulin; alcohol pads, etc.
Minimum dimension requirements for my use are 7"x5"x2". The OSOE pouch is exactly what I'm looking for if the dimensions are correct for my use. I don't need the tear-off panel since I will stick it directly to a patch on my bag. |
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Originally Posted By bigsapper:
A blood glucose meter with pricker; a cylindrical hard case that holds a loaded syringe (about 6.5"); A tube of glucose tablets; a bottle of insulin; alcohol pads, etc. Minimum dimension requirements for my use are 7"x5"x2". The OSOE pouch is exactly what I'm looking for if the dimensions are correct for my use. I don't need the tear-off panel since I will stick it directly to a patch on my bag. i would say yes to all the things with the exception of the loaded syringe. only because i don't have one of those (or a ruler/tape measure) at my current disposal. brb on a side suggestion. gotta run out to the truck and grab something. eta: if your talking about a syringe of d50, yes it will fit. box and everything. |
Here's what I got...
The pouch is a Maxpedition 5"x7" pouch... http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Hook-Loop-5-x-7-Zipper-Pocket-60p1660.htm |
I don't support being hit by a bus or by a train, but i know they both would suck.
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Originally Posted By bigsapper: A blood glucose meter with pricker; a cylindrical hard case that holds a loaded syringe (about 6.5"); A tube of glucose tablets; a bottle of insulin; alcohol pads, etc. Minimum dimension requirements for my use are 7"x5"x2". The OSOE pouch is exactly what I'm looking for if the dimensions are correct for my use. I don't need the tear-off panel since I will stick it directly to a patch on my bag. It's not big enough for you. Just measured mine, it's 5.5"x3.5"x1.75". Of course there is some room to play as it will expand out a little, but I don't think it's going to expand as much as you need. And the velcro on the back isn't that strong, so I'm not sure that it'd work for you even if it was big enough. ETA: Check out the ATS medical pouch, it's a tear away also and ATS lists the dimensions as 7"x4.5"x up to 5" |
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I'm from Texas, what country are you from?
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Originally Posted By bigsapper:
A blood glucose meter with pricker; a cylindrical hard case that holds a loaded syringe (about 6.5"); A tube of glucose tablets; a bottle of insulin; alcohol pads, etc. Minimum dimension requirements for my use are 7"x5"x2". The OSOE pouch is exactly what I'm looking for if the dimensions are correct for my use. I don't need the tear-off panel since I will stick it directly to a patch on my bag. Ok, John responded to my query with 8" tall x 6" wide x 3.5" deep. |
I don't support being hit by a bus or by a train, but i know they both would suck.
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Originally Posted By bigsapper: I should've checked your link before I responded, the measurements I listed above are for the compact kit, not the full size.Originally Posted By bigsapper: A blood glucose meter with pricker; a cylindrical hard case that holds a loaded syringe (about 6.5"); A tube of glucose tablets; a bottle of insulin; alcohol pads, etc. Minimum dimension requirements for my use are 7"x5"x2". The OSOE pouch is exactly what I'm looking for if the dimensions are correct for my use. I don't need the tear-off panel since I will stick it directly to a patch on my bag. Ok, John responded to my query with 8" tall x 6" wide x 3.5" deep. |
We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon. Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat.
I'm from Texas, what country are you from?
I'm from Texas, what country are you from?
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Here are my personal favorites-
From left to right ATS med pouch with ITS med kit, shears and cat Dark Angel med pouch and kit with shears and cat and PMAG for size I have had the Dark Angel kit for a short time and this is by far the best imo due to it being extremely easy to grasp/remove the kit inside even with a mangled hand and takes up little real estate. The ATS pouch with ITS kit comes in second place but far from first. I have tried many med pouches and these 2 are the best imo. ymmv 
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Originally Posted By 1fromtx: I'm bumping these for reference. This. The incidents that took place in Boston should be a reminder to all of how important keeping medical supplies on hand is.
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Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
Originally Posted By 1fromtx:
I'm bumping these for reference. This. The incidents that took place in Boston should be a reminder to all of how important keeping medical supplies on hand is. true dat shit. I'm reviewing what I carry with me, at least in my vehicle and my backpack I carry around. |
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Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
Originally Posted By 1fromtx:
I'm bumping these for reference. This. The incidents that took place in Boston should be a reminder to all of how important keeping medical supplies on hand is. Yep, every reflective jacket you saw should have had a IFAK with a tourniquet. LEOs' need to be "medical multipliers" not just combat multipliers. |
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Originally Posted By CENTCOM_Survivor:
Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
Originally Posted By 1fromtx:
I'm bumping these for reference. This. The incidents that took place in Boston should be a reminder to all of how important keeping medical supplies on hand is. Yep, every reflective jacket you saw should have had a IFAK with a tourniquet. LEOs' need to be "medical multipliers" not just combat multipliers. That would be a hell of an advantage. Just think if every one of those officers went through something similar to TCCC. |
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Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By CENTCOM_Survivor:
Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
Originally Posted By 1fromtx:
I'm bumping these for reference. This. The incidents that took place in Boston should be a reminder to all of how important keeping medical supplies on hand is. Yep, every reflective jacket you saw should have had a IFAK with a tourniquet. LEOs' need to be "medical multipliers" not just combat multipliers. That would be a hell of an advantage. Just think if every one of those officers went through something similar to TCCC. At the very least, I believe all LEO's should go through EMT-B or something similar. Even something similar to the Army's combat lifesaver course. |
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Help me finish mine?
<--- former lifeguard and water safety instructor. I figure I remember 1/4 of my first aid and most of the cpr training. I'd like to be able to use 2/3 of my kit and the other 1/3 for someone more knowledgeable if necessary. I suppose I could figure it all out easily enough. Spec Ops medium medical pouch. My goal for the pouch are: Treating gashes (knife/saw cuts) Possible gsw Snivel kit Pics below. Here is what I currently have listed: Shown: 1 x 4" izzy bandage 1 x card sized clamshell case. Inside is 2 x transparent bandage 10 Steri strips 5 small waterproof band aids 5 med/large waterproof band aids 4 natural tears single use vials Not shown but on the list. It may not all fit. 1x Trauma Shears 2x nitrile Gloves 1x SWAT-T Tourniquet 1x H&H Compressed Gauze 1x Quik Clot Gauze 1x Roll of Gorilla Tape 1x Nasopharyngeal Airway with Lube To put into the clamshell: 3 x single use triple antibiotic thingies 1 x moleskin Two acetominophen Two antihistamine Two ibuprofen Two alcohol wipes All the clamshell stuff is inside a ziplock, which is then inside the clamshell. The shell is not required but I believe it would help maintain the integrity of the ziplock. 
The current stuff takes up a shade over half the height. 
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Dont know if this was thrown out there.....didnt go through all pages....but for guys that want to have quick access to IFAKS without rip away panels try these....they work great.
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| I'm trying to track down a specific pouch and hope you guys might be able to help me out. Right now I have one of the old CLS bags, M3 style and looking for something a bit more modular and current. Ideally it'd be something about 2x larger than the issued IFAKs but smaller than the backpack kits. The NAR sheet bag would have been perfect except I'd prefer to have a molle/malice attachment system for my ruck/pc. I'd even consider a dropleg if that is the only thing that fits the bill. Anyone have any ideas where I might find something like that? |
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Originally Posted By survivorman:
Dont know if this was thrown out there.....didnt go through all pages....but for guys that want to have quick access to IFAKS without rip away panels try these....they work great. http://www.itstactical.com/store/accessories/molle-stix-pair/ It is an alternative, but it is a band-aid over a wound. I just picked a pair up to go with my GG&G med pouch and while they do make taking the pouch of significantly easier I wouldn't call it a perfect solution. The Stix need to be pulled outward instead of up like you would think so a bit of muscle memory to get that down in a crunch and once used it needs to be rethreaded so you can't just slap it back on the velcro and clip it down to move on if needed. |
WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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Spec ops gear large IFAK pouch.
I got my IFAK in there, quickclot, tourniquet, and shears. It doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in contrast to the rest of your gear and has a red nylon strap to signify it's a medical kit. If it's one thing I hate it's med pouches that got a ton of red on them. This doesn't stand out enough to reveal you if you're hiding and has enough room to fit everything in it. |
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Originally Posted By Blind_Squirrel:
I'm trying to track down a specific pouch and hope you guys might be able to help me out. Right now I have one of the old CLS bags, M3 style and looking for something a bit more modular and current. Ideally it'd be something about 2x larger than the issued IFAKs but smaller than the backpack kits. The NAR sheet bag would have been perfect except I'd prefer to have a molle/malice attachment system for my ruck/pc. I'd even consider a dropleg if that is the only thing that fits the bill. Anyone have any ideas where I might find something like that? I'm not sure if it fits your bill, but one of my fellow students at a class a couple years ago was using a raid bag from tacmedsolutions. Much smaller than my stomp pack, but big enough for supplies to treat several casualties. He used it as a dismount bag, with a larger kit in the vehicle. Alternatively, condor's original rip away EMT pouch is oversized and can hold a crap load. They just came out with a smaller 'rip away lite' version, but the original is a good chunk larger than an ifak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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New Mystery Ranch IFAK's.
For a civillian I seem to think a boo-boo kit is adequate, maybe just because my knowledge is so limited in regards to this stuff..anyhow http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/IFAK |
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Originally Posted By tweeter:
heh, you said "but fuck" Originally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By BD1a:
Great for the vic but fuck carrying that thing around. heh, you said "but fuck" HEY! The gear thread iz serious bizniz. 
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Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup:
New Mystery Ranch IFAK's. For a civillian I seem to think a boo-boo kit is adequate, maybe just because my knowledge is so limited in regards to this stuff..anyhow http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/IFAK Anyone have experience with this yet? |
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Anyone have experience with this yet? Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup:
New Mystery Ranch IFAK's. For a civillian I seem to think a boo-boo kit is adequate, maybe just because my knowledge is so limited in regards to this stuff..anyhow http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/IFAK Anyone have experience with this yet? Does it come stocked? |
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Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
This fucking thing. There is really no comfortable way to carry it. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e8A_0N0yjiU/TvjudoU4uJI/AAAAAAAAAD8/5lx0EG-nKW8/s1600/ctb2.jpg Yes there is: remove the stupid huge bandolier strap, attach some type of web strap to it (I had a 1 inch web strap that clipped into one of the million fastex buckles), then you can shove it into the top of an assault pack, or figure out a good way to tie it down inside your vehicle. It really is a good sized medical kit with some well thought out organization crap. |
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Originally Posted By hendrkj:
Bump Anyone use the HSGI bleeder pouch? I find them to be too small for the stuff I wanted. I probably could have thrown it all in, but I don't want to work on getting my gear out when I am bleeding. |
WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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So, instead of starting a new thread, might as well put my setup here.
Let's kick this thread back alive; would love yto see what different kits and setups are out there. My CTOMS 2ndLine Main Pack; still need a few more internal pouches behind the flap and name tape to complete. Set-up is based on this: Whiskey Delta Gulf: CTOMS 2nd Line Aidbag (MEDEVAC setup) 
1. HEMO / GAUZE Pouch In a Tactical Tailor Accessory Pouch 1V, two (2) H&H Compressed Gauze and four (4) QuikClot hemostatic gauze. 
2. CHEST SEAL Pouch In a Tactical Tailor Accessory Pouch 1V, two (2) HALO Chest Seals and three (3) Hyfin Chest Seals (couldn't find more HALOs). 
3. Admin Pouch In an ATS Combat Leader Admin Pouch, two (2) Mylar Blankets and and foam ear plugs, for now. Front compartment has a ziploc bag with bandaids in varying different sizes. I plan on including a headlamp and nitrile gloves in here. 
4. Opening Side A Benchmade Knife with a half serrated edge, and a black permanent marker. 
5. Closed Side A Benchmade Strap Cutter and two (2) 3-hour IR Chem Lights. Mounted just underneath the opening behind the ATS Pouch are two (2) 12-hour Yellow Chem Lights and two (2) chest decompression needles. 
6. Front Zipper Pocket A ziploc bag with 20 MET-TAGs (we use the START Triage Protocol for our MCIs). 
7. Mesh Pocket - Assessment/Diagnostic In a CTOMS 2ndLine Mesh Pocket mounted on the loop backing on the back side of the front lid, a stethoscope, a sphygmomanometer, pulse oximeter, blood glucometer, and two (2) pen lights. 
8. BLEEDING Pouch #1 In a CTOMS 2ndLine Quad Fold Pouch, one (1) 12" Abdominal Emergency Bandage, three (3) 6" Emergency Bandages, and three (3) 4" Emergency Bandages. 
9. BLEEDING Pouch #2 In a CTOMS 2ndLine Quad Fold Pouch, five (5) SWAT-T Tourniquets, two (2) rolls of 3" tape, two (2) Kerlix Rolled Gauze, five (5) H&H Compressed Bandages, and two (2) rolls of 3M Coban Bandages. 
Between Pouches 8 and 9, two trauma shears. 
10. AIRWAY/BREATHING Pouch A CTOMS 2ndLine Quad Fold Pouch is wrapped around a CTOMS 2ndLine Book Folder (Gen II). 
On the Book Folder Flaps, an assortment of OPAs, two (2) NPAs with lube packets, two (2) chest decompression needles, five (5) Hyfin Chest Seals, and two (2) King LTs, Size 5. 
In the Quad Fold Pouch for BREATHING, one (1) BVM, one (1) NAR Tactical Suction Kit, and one (1) cric kit. 
11. IV ADMIN Pouch In a CTOMS 2ndLine Quad Fold Pouch, two (2) IV burritos wrapped in a triangular cravat bandage, with a 500ml saline bag, NAR Saline Lock Kit, IV Kit and catheter. 
12. SAM Splints in the Mesh Backing Three (3) SAM Splints fitted into the Mesh Backing underneath the shoulder straps. The closure for this compartment is located on the bottom of the pack. 
13. Carabiner Retention Strap Picked this up from REI and use it to secure the pack in the helo. 
And lastly, just in case you were wondering where is my BSI? 
END NOTES Apologies for the poor quality of the photos. I have yet to set up my CTOMS 2ndLine External Module, which has the exact same storage capacity as the Main Pack and mounts on the front side of the latter. I will need to figure out what else I would need with me, but basically I do need to add on a non-rigid stretcher, a traction splint, cervical collar, burn dressings, HLS markers, bio bags, face shields, IO kit, etc. The primary use of this is for our missions by road and helo, whether for humanitarian activities, assessment missions or close protection operations during senior level visits. As we would always be in close proximity of our armored vehicles with us, the External Module with the additional items can be detached and left in the AVs while I carry the Main Pack with essential items. Comparing it with the MEDEVAC Set-Up in the link, the version the author uses is slightly different from what I have, as my version does not have a hydration bladder compartment where the author placed the SAM splints and C-collar. Again, this set-up may change as I carry this with me more and more in the future but by far this is the best medical pack I have used, after going through the Blackhawk STOMP II for nearly a decade, and later a TSSi M-9 Bag and a Tactical Tailor M-5 Bag. Hope you enjoyed, and please feel free to fire away with your comments an |
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Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
This fucking thing. There is really no comfortable way to carry it. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e8A_0N0yjiU/TvjudoU4uJI/AAAAAAAAAD8/5lx0EG-nKW8/s1600/ctb2.jpg we got these and the mojo version of them -- the mojo bag is infinitely better in all ways, especially carriage of the fucking thing. |
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Originally Posted By DocBach:
we got these and the mojo version of them -- the mojo bag is infinitely better in all ways, especially carriage of the fucking thing. Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
This fucking thing. There is really no comfortable way to carry it. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e8A_0N0yjiU/TvjudoU4uJI/AAAAAAAAAD8/5lx0EG-nKW8/s1600/ctb2.jpg we got these and the mojo version of them -- the mojo bag is infinitely better in all ways, especially carriage of the fucking thing. What is that called? |
| I have a stupid question. What, if anything, is the difference between H&H PriMed Compressed Gauze (NSN: 6510-01-503-2117) and this Z-Pak Gauze Dressing (NSN: 6510-01-527-8329), and which, if either, is preferable? |
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Originally Posted By cap6888:
What is that called? Originally Posted By cap6888:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
This fucking thing. There is really no comfortable way to carry it. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e8A_0N0yjiU/TvjudoU4uJI/AAAAAAAAAD8/5lx0EG-nKW8/s1600/ctb2.jpg we got these and the mojo version of them -- the mojo bag is infinitely better in all ways, especially carriage of the fucking thing. What is that called? Mojo 324 CLS bag it comes with a belt and a shoulder strap for ease of carry and weight distribution. |
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