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| The whole point of the NylAUG is to be a fun project you can do at home. for $900, you get a clapped out $200 dollar parts kit shoved into a 3d printed receiver that may or may not hold up and a cheap ar15 barrel. I don't get who would buy this, but I'm sure some will because mentally "$900" is easier to spend than "$1300" |
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Originally Posted By tavorsterling: The whole point of the NylAUG is to be a fun project you can do at home. for $900, you get a clapped out $200 dollar parts kit shoved into a 3d printed receiver that may or may not hold up and a cheap ar15 barrel. I don't get who would buy this, but I'm sure some will because mentally "$900" is easier to spend than "$1300" 100% agreed as well. Baffled me when I saw the TFB video showing them off, even more baffled seeing the comments of people praising this. The NYLAUG from the very start was supposed to be a fun, cheap, and available alternative for people in the 3D printing community to getting a decent alternative to the Steyr/MSAR/TPD, it was also one of the best 3D printed rifles you can make too. There was also such an abundance of the surplus kits still on the market that anyone that wanted to make one only had to spend maybe 2-3 benjamins on the kit, and maybe another 100 bucks on the cost of the plastic and separate tiny parts it needed. But then Titus swoops in, bought up almost every single one of the remaining parts kits on the market, threw on an aluminum "rear trunnion" (which by the way, doesn't even need it in the first place if you're printing with the right material) and has the audacity to charge almost double the cost of what it takes to make it, is just insane. Really disappointed in TFB for promoting them and this scam. I was involved with the NYLAUGs early development years ago (albeit not a lot, but still made some design contributions with the group) and this just feels like such a spit in the face to me and those of us that took our OWN time and money trying to make this thing work for everyone else. |
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Getting used is always a great option if you wanna save money! The era of $2k-3k AUGs is no more, you can easily get new ones for around 1500 if you look hard enough, sometimes even cheaper if the company/website has a sale, been seeing a lot of people lately get them for about 1200-1400. MSARs can sometimes be found even cheaper too, like 1000 bucks "buy it now" cheap! and I'd happily spend an extra 100 for those than the Titus arms cashgrab. |
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Originally Posted By Cumtardacus: 100% agreed as well. Baffled me when I saw the TFB video showing them off, even more baffled seeing the comments of people praising this. The NYLAUG from the very start was supposed to be a fun, cheap, and available alternative for people in the 3D printing community to getting a decent alternative to the Steyr/MSAR/TPD, it was also one of the best 3D printed rifles you can make too. There was also such an abundance of the surplus kits still on the market that anyone that wanted to make one only had to spend maybe 2-3 benjamins on the kit, and maybe another 100 bucks on the cost of the plastic and separate tiny parts it needed. But then Titus swoops in, bought up almost every single one of the remaining parts kits on the market, threw on an aluminum "rear trunnion" (which by the way, doesn't even need it in the first place if you're printing with the right material) and has the audacity to charge almost double the cost of what it takes to make it, is just insane. Really disappointed in TFB for promoting them and this scam. I was involved with the NYLAUGs early development years ago (albeit not a lot, but still made some design contributions with the group) and this just feels like such a spit in the face to me and those of us that took our OWN time and money trying to make this thing work for everyone else. Sounds like you should’ve bought up all the kits and did what they’re doing now. You could’ve easily sold the completed guns at like $25 over cost and still made a fortune. Despite making less money, you’d know you’re helping out your brothers in the gun community. |
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Originally Posted By Trucker69: Sounds like you should’ve bought up all the kits and did what they’re doing now. You could’ve easily sold the completed guns at like $25 over cost and still made a fortune. Despite making less money, you’d know you’re helping out your brothers in the gun community. No offense, but you're completely missing the point on my previous comment... I'm not upset that he's making a profit from it and I'm not, I'm upset that he's 1. ripping a 3D printed file he had no involvement in 2. snatched up all the surplus kits and extra parts that were meant for regular folk to complete the builds 3. charges literally double the cost it takes to even make the things in the first place 4. then pats himself on the back and claims he's making an "affordable" AUG (news flash, the NYLAUG was always affordable from the start, but now Titus just had to ruin it by drying the market and price gouging for a complete rifle). Before r/fosscad was banned, anyone that needed help or had questions about building the NYLAUG would be met with dozens of helpful individuals that would help answer any questions they had, and give them guides on how to complete it; THAT would helping my brothers in the gun community, not what Titus is doing. This is essentially no different than the MilitaryArmsChannel/Hungarian SVD fiasco from a few years ago, except now it's with a different company and different platform. |
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Originally Posted By tavorsterling: The whole point of the NylAUG is to be a fun project you can do at home. for $900, you get a clapped out $200 dollar parts kit shoved into a 3d printed receiver that may or may not hold up and a cheap ar15 barrel. I don't get who would buy this, but I'm sure some will because mentally "$900" is easier to spend than "$1300" 100 percent truth. |
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Originally Posted By Cumtardacus: No offense, but you're completely missing the point on my previous comment... I'm not upset that he's making a profit from it and I'm not, I'm upset that he's 1. ripping a 3D printed file he had no involvement in 2. snatched up all the surplus kits and extra parts that were meant for regular folk to complete the builds 3. charges literally double the cost it takes to even make the things in the first place 4. then pats himself on the back and claims he's making an "affordable" AUG (news flash, the NYLAUG was always affordable from the start, but now Titus just had to ruin it by drying the market and price gouging for a complete rifle). Before r/fosscad was banned, anyone that needed help or had questions about building the NYLAUG would be met with dozens of helpful individuals that would help answer any questions they had, and give them guides on how to complete it; THAT would helping my brothers in the gun community, not what Titus is doing. This is essentially no different than the MilitaryArmsChannel/Hungarian SVD fiasco from a few years ago, except now it's with a different company and different platform. It sucks that Titus snatched up all the kits. But those kits stayed in stock for a very long time. Longer than I would have anticipated, but the parts were very niche: only applicable to those with FA AUGs and the Nylaug. Nevertheless, when an item of limited quantity is available the old adage of “you snooze you lose” applies., And understand that this is the free market. The kits were available on the open market. The Nylaug plans are open source. It’s not surprising that someone capitalized on the idea. The designer of the Nylaug should have patented it, then licensed it for a nominal fee to recoup his patent costs. That would have (maybe) prevented the current situation. I don’t see the Titus Nylaug selling well. Clapped out Malaysian parts kit in a nylon receiver with a non-QD barrel for $1k seems very far fetched. I’d bet we see these blown out for $700 through someone like Atlantic after they sit unsold for a year or two. This is analagous to Eli Whitney and his cotton gin. Too easy to replicate. |
| TBH, it don’t think you’d make a fortune, or anything close to a fortune, on selling at $25 over cost. The AUG is, and always has been, a niche gun. Many people have no desire for one at any price, and of those that do, many would rather have a Steyr original. There is likely some desire for a $900 one, but not that much, even if it was a good one. |
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Originally Posted By JoshNC: It sucks that Titus snatched up all the kits. But those kits stayed in stock for a very long time. Longer than I would have anticipated, but the parts were very niche: only applicable to those with FA AUGs and the Nylaug. Nevertheless, when an item of limited quantity is available the old adage of “you snooze you lose” applies., And understand that this is the free market. The kits were available on the open market. The Nylaug plans are open source. It’s not surprising that someone capitalized on the idea. The designer of the Nylaug should have patented it, then licensed it for a nominal fee to recoup his patent costs. That would have (maybe) prevented the current situation. I don’t see the Titus Nylaug selling well. Clapped out Malaysian parts kit in a nylon receiver with a non-QD barrel for $1k seems very far fetched. I’d bet we see these blown out for $700 through someone like Atlantic after they sit unsold for a year or two. This is analagous to Eli Whitney and his cotton gin. Too easy to replicate. Originally Posted By JoshNC: Originally Posted By Cumtardacus: No offense, but you're completely missing the point on my previous comment... I'm not upset that he's making a profit from it and I'm not, I'm upset that he's 1. ripping a 3D printed file he had no involvement in 2. snatched up all the surplus kits and extra parts that were meant for regular folk to complete the builds 3. charges literally double the cost it takes to even make the things in the first place 4. then pats himself on the back and claims he's making an "affordable" AUG (news flash, the NYLAUG was always affordable from the start, but now Titus just had to ruin it by drying the market and price gouging for a complete rifle). Before r/fosscad was banned, anyone that needed help or had questions about building the NYLAUG would be met with dozens of helpful individuals that would help answer any questions they had, and give them guides on how to complete it; THAT would helping my brothers in the gun community, not what Titus is doing. This is essentially no different than the MilitaryArmsChannel/Hungarian SVD fiasco from a few years ago, except now it's with a different company and different platform. It sucks that Titus snatched up all the kits. But those kits stayed in stock for a very long time. Longer than I would have anticipated, but the parts were very niche: only applicable to those with FA AUGs and the Nylaug. Nevertheless, when an item of limited quantity is available the old adage of “you snooze you lose” applies., And understand that this is the free market. The kits were available on the open market. The Nylaug plans are open source. It’s not surprising that someone capitalized on the idea. The designer of the Nylaug should have patented it, then licensed it for a nominal fee to recoup his patent costs. That would have (maybe) prevented the current situation. I don’t see the Titus Nylaug selling well. Clapped out Malaysian parts kit in a nylon receiver with a non-QD barrel for $1k seems very far fetched. I’d bet we see these blown out for $700 through someone like Atlantic after they sit unsold for a year or two. This is analagous to Eli Whitney and his cotton gin. Too easy to replicate. I agree with your point on the "he soaked up all the kits on the market" - they were there for years, and they are for sale to whomever wants to purchase them. It is not a crime or even bad form to purchase all of them up, especially after people had plenty of time to purchase them. I think for someone on a budget what wants a lightweight, inexpensive AUG, doesn't care about the QD barrel feature (which from a practical standpoint really serves no purpose) and doesn't want to or have the capability to print a NylAUG receiver, and just treats it as a neat lightweight AUG that transfers on a 4473 like any other gun, this is the perfect product. It remains to be seen how many will sell, but I suspect there is a certain niche audience that will buy them. Do not underestimate the number of people who will choose convenience and low cost over those who 3D print as they want a firearm that isn't "on a list." It may be they have found a whole new market space. As far as "seeing them blown out if they sit unsold" they do not have to make a bunch of receivers all at once. They can print them one at a time if they want, and probably keep 2-3 in stock so they can ship immediately. For them there really is very little risk- worst case they just sell off the parts kits that everyone supposedly wanted but didn't buy, don't buy any extra filament, and walk away for basically what they had in it. If people buy them they are likely doubling their money on their investment. As far as a risk proof business plan, that is about as good as it gets. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By Cumtardacus: threw on an aluminum "rear trunnion" (which by the way, doesn't even need it in the first place if you're printing with the right material) How many rounds does the aluminum trunnion hold up? How long do you think a printed polymer trunnion would hold up? |
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando: How many rounds does the aluminum trunnion hold up? How long do you think a printed polymer trunnion would hold up? The printed polymer trunnion holds up pretty well when printed with the carbon filament recommended. Me and numerous others that were testing in the beta phase would zero the rifle, mag dump a few mags, then take aimed shots usually 50-100 yards out and still hit dead on. This is also including some that 3D printed rails with cheap optics bolted on to them. I'd say for a majority of the civilian market buying stuff like this, that's pretty good. Now, would an aluminum trunnion hold up better? Absolutely 100%. But is it needed? No, not at all, as we proved in the beta testing. It's like if someone decided to make an entire AUG receiver out of steel because it'll hold up better. Nobody is going to war with the things, so going out of the way to make an aluminum trunnion is just redundant and just adds cost to an already overpriced product. |
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It's really easy to sit here and complain about pricing, when not being fully educated on the product itself, and even some of the minor nuisances when running a business. As I did for the reddit thread that sent me here, let me nail down some facts. We - Titus Arms, never "bought up all the kits" - as we've stated in the past, our company has collectively purchased less than a couple dozen of kits over the span of 2 years, some before Titus Arms as a company even existed. The NylAUG project releasing (a project I was heavily involved with, being in both the alpha, beta, and spacecamp rooms) is what caused the kits to dry up. Continuing onto that, again, we heavily invested time, money and (literally) blood into the opensource project before I even considered running a business. I've had my ffl for less than a year and half now, so take that as you will. It's also easy to sit here and say "oh, $250 parts kit + $150 barrel = $400, this guy is ripping people off!" There's absolutely WAYYY more that goes into a complete nylaug in general - let alone ours setup for commercial usage. Let's add up the basics. $200 - $250 parts kit $150 KAK barrels $50 - $100 Gasblock restoration OR KAK Gasblock $80 Riptide Rails aluminum trunnion $110 Riptide Rails Aluminum picatinny rail. ~$20 magazine ~$15 KAK tulip flashider. That breakdown doesn't include the MANDATORY 10% - 11% excise tax on the sales price FFL's are required to pay - in my case being $90. That also doesn't include the miscellaneous hardware for the nylaug being considered, such as the all-thread, brass tubing, nuts bolts, filament costs, engraving costs, etc Oh, we also include an entire AR15 fire control group trigger pack into our builds as well. And what about other costs of running a business? machine time? electricity? labor? book keeping? By the way, we have 3500 people on the email list for one, so moving them isn't going to be difficult in the foreseable future. |
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Originally Posted By Corbinxtitus: It's really easy to sit here and complain about pricing, when not being fully educated on the product itself, and even some of the minor nuisances when running a business. As I did for the reddit thread that sent me here, let me nail down some facts. We - Titus Arms, never "bought up all the kits" - as we've stated in the past, our company has collectively purchased less than a couple dozen of kits over the span of 2 years, some before Titus Arms as a company even existed. The NylAUG project releasing (a project I was heavily involved with, being in both the alpha, beta, and spacecamp rooms) is what caused the kits to dry up. Continuing onto that, again, we heavily invested time, money and (literally) blood into the opensource project before I even considered running a business. I've had my ffl for less than a year and half now, so take that as you will. It's also easy to sit here and say "oh, $250 parts kit + $150 barrel = $400, this guy is ripping people off!" There's absolutely WAYYY more that goes into a complete nylaug in general - let alone ours setup for commercial usage. Let's add up the basics. $200 - $250 parts kit $150 KAK barrels $50 - $100 Gasblock restoration OR KAK Gasblock $80 Riptide Rails aluminum trunnion $110 Riptide Rails Aluminum picatinny rail. ~$20 magazine ~$15 KAK tulip flashider. That breakdown doesn't include the MANDATORY 10% - 11% excise tax on the sales price FFL's are required to pay - in my case being $90. That also doesn't include the miscellaneous hardware for the nylaug being considered, such as the all-thread, brass tubing, nuts bolts, filament costs, engraving costs, etc Oh, we also include an entire AR15 fire control group trigger pack into our builds as well. And what about other costs of running a business? machine time? electricity? labor? book keeping? By the way, we have 3500 people on the email list for one, so moving them isn't going to be difficult in the foreseable future. @Corbinxtitus Since you’re here-I have a question. Did you guys happen to get any left handed kits in what you bought? If you did, I might be seriously interested. That’s my biggest problem with getting an AUG, I’m left handed. So I have the initial cost for the rifle, and then the conversion parts(and some can’t even be converted). |
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Originally Posted By mace2364: @Corbinxtitus Since you’re here-I have a question. Did you guys happen to get any left handed kits in what you bought? If you did, I might be seriously interested. That’s my biggest problem with getting an AUG, I’m left handed. So I have the initial cost for the rifle, and then the conversion parts(and some can’t even be converted). I'm actually a lefty myself, unfortunately, outside of the one kit I've allocated for myself, I haven't got any left handed kits in. Fun fact though - the left side ejection port is marked on the surplus kits, and can easily be cut out. Sourcing a LH bolt can be expensive, but ratworx makes a budget alternative - if they'll ever restock. |
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia: I built a NylAUG because it was significantly cheaper to build than buy at the time with dirt cheap kits. Buying a NylAug at close to used AUG prices? Ya not gonna happen. How does the Nylaug achieve semiauto-only function when it accepts a FA stock? What’s the FA block? |
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: I agree with your point on the "he soaked up all the kits on the market" - they were there for years, and they are for sale to whomever wants to purchase them. It is not a crime or even bad form to purchase all of them up, especially after people had plenty of time to purchase them. I think for someone on a budget what wants a lightweight, inexpensive AUG, doesn't care about the QD barrel feature (which from a practical standpoint really serves no purpose) and doesn't want to or have the capability to print a NylAUG receiver, and just treats it as a neat lightweight AUG that transfers on a 4473 like any other gun, this is the perfect product. It remains to be seen how many will sell, but I suspect there is a certain niche audience that will buy them. Do not underestimate the number of people who will choose convenience and low cost over those who 3D print as they want a firearm that isn't "on a list." It may be they have found a whole new market space. As far as "seeing them blown out if they sit unsold" they do not have to make a bunch of receivers all at once. They can print them one at a time if they want, and probably keep 2-3 in stock so they can ship immediately. For them there really is very little risk- worst case they just sell off the parts kits that everyone supposedly wanted but didn't buy, don't buy any extra filament, and walk away for basically what they had in it. If people buy them they are likely doubling their money on their investment. As far as a risk proof business plan, that is about as good as it gets. Sven Manticore Arms All good points. |
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Originally Posted By JoshNC: How does the Nylaug achieve semiauto-only function when it accepts a FA stock? What’s the FA block? Originally Posted By JoshNC: Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia: I built a NylAUG because it was significantly cheaper to build than buy at the time with dirt cheap kits. Buying a NylAug at close to used AUG prices? Ya not gonna happen. How does the Nylaug achieve semiauto-only function when it accepts a FA stock? What’s the FA block? Multiple denials exist and the directions give you a series of options. I went with: Printed a new trigger pack housing that eliminates FA provisions and added to the stock two denial bars to prevent a FA pack from being installed. Epoxied in place to be permanent). I modified my existed FCG components to keep the gun drop safe, as the AR FCG pack had a warning that it wasn't drop safe The stock is also modified to prevent a standard FA receiver from being installed via another bar and a slot so that it accepts the new NylAug receiver only. A lot of other work such as bolt modifications to remove the FA trip on the tail and some changes to work with the NylAug specific barrel. It's an advanced build, that at least the 1.0 I did suffered from poor instructions. I haven't looked at the 1.1 version but I hear a lot of the issues were cleared up. |
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia: Multiple denials exist and the directions give you a series of options. I went with: Printed a new trigger pack housing that eliminates FA provisions and added to the stock two denial bars to prevent a FA pack from being installed. Epoxied in place to be permanent). I modified my existed FCG components to keep the gun drop safe, as the AR FCG pack had a warning that it wasn't drop safe The stock is also modified to prevent a standard FA receiver from being installed via another bar and a slot so that it accepts the new NylAug receiver only. A lot of other work such as bolt modifications to remove the FA trip on the tail and some changes to work with the NylAug specific barrel. It's an advanced build, that at least the 1.0 I did suffered from poor instructions. I haven't looked at the 1.1 version but I hear a lot of the issues were cleared up. That’s cool. I have a couple of kits socked away from when they were first released. One of them I made a post sample conversion device by slotting the receiver latch to fit a SA stock. But I’d be interested in doing one as a Nylaug. Thanks for the info. |
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